Economy Unpopular Opinion: Our Race to Adopt AI Is a Potential Tragedy of the Commons in the Making

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Been away for a while. Since AI is all the rage these days, I want to add my rant in since I'm actually on one of the automation teams at the moment for my company.

In the 1990s, the North Atlantic cod fishery collapsed. Everyone knew the fish stocks were dwindling, but each fishing company kept pushing harder, hoping to outcompete the rest and survive. Instead, the whole ecosystem and the industry with it died. AI-driven layoffs feel eerily similar. Every company is racing to slash labor costs before competitors do. But in the process, we might be destroying the very thing that keeps the economy alive, purchasing power of consumers.

Mass layoffs don’t just hurt workers. They shrink demand. If millions lose income, spending drops. The economy stalls. No matter how efficient a company is, it still needs people who can afford its products and services. We’re cutting costs in ways that could lead to mass unemployment, lower consumer spending, and eventually, corporate collapse. It’s short-term quarterly based thinking hyped up as innovation.

Some of the ultra-wealthy might think they’ll ride out the storm at the top of a techno-feudal hierarchy. They own the platforms, hoard capital, and influence policy. But history says otherwise. When inequality becomes extreme, revolts tend to follow. No one is safe in a collapsing system. The people who profited the most often have the most to lose when things break. This isn't some communist pinko leftist shit, but reality. When FDR raised taxes on the rich during the Great Depression, he said "I am fighting to save the system, not to destroy it." You can't have capitalism and market economy without demand.

And let’s say the working class really does become obsolete. AI and robotics can do it all. If we create superintelligent AI, why assume it’ll stay loyal to the people in charge? If it sees them as inefficient or parasitic, it might phase them out. Just like some of those same elites view working people as welfare leeches now.
 
Been away for a while. Since AI is all the rage these days, I want to add my rant in since I'm actually on one of the automation teams at the moment for my company.

In the 1990s, the North Atlantic cod fishery collapsed. Everyone knew the fish stocks were dwindling, but each fishing company kept pushing harder, hoping to outcompete the rest and survive. Instead, the whole ecosystem and the industry with it died. AI-driven layoffs feel eerily similar. Every company is racing to slash labor costs before competitors do. But in the process, we might be destroying the very thing that keeps the economy alive, purchasing power of consumers.

Mass layoffs don’t just hurt workers. They shrink demand. If millions lose income, spending drops. The economy stalls. No matter how efficient a company is, it still needs people who can afford its products and services. We’re cutting costs in ways that could lead to mass unemployment, lower consumer spending, and eventually, corporate collapse. It’s short-term quarterly based thinking hyped up as innovation.

Some of the ultra-wealthy might think they’ll ride out the storm at the top of a techno-feudal hierarchy. They own the platforms, hoard capital, and influence policy. But history says otherwise. When inequality becomes extreme, revolts tend to follow. No one is safe in a collapsing system. The people who profited the most often have the most to lose when things break. This isn't some communist pinko leftist shit, but reality. When FDR raised taxes on the rich during the Great Depression, he said "I am fighting to save the system, not to destroy it." You can't have capitalism and market economy without demand.

And let’s say the working class really does become obsolete. AI and robotics can do it all. If we create superintelligent AI, why assume it’ll stay loyal to the people in charge? If it sees them as inefficient or parasitic, it might phase them out. Just like some of those same elites view working people as welfare leeches now.


Man, Im just a dummy on Sherdog but I think we are in for a profound existential and devestating crisis for humanity with AI.

Western governments are doing absolutely nothing to take this seriously while we fight about trans, immigrants and other bullshit.
 
Your totally correct, luckily for the elite they have been ready for this, they already convinced half of you take a shot that will kill all of you in the next 20 years, while you are being replaced already by a population in which a rapid decline in wealth and purchasing power will not revolt as they are already used to it.
 
Capitalism and the final destination of its internal contradictions

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The wisdom of capitalists

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The gap between haves and have nots will grow a lot. Government will need to do more to keep more and more non-competitive people out of dire straights, which in and of itself will be extremely problematic and bad for humanity. Our country is already worse off with growing income inequality and the inability of folks to make a decent living working in factories. It's only going to get worse.
 
Man, Im just a dummy on Sherdog but I think we are in for a profound existential and devestating crisis for humanity with AI.

Western governments are doing absolutely nothing to take this seriously while we fight about trans, immigrants and other bullshit.

Well, they're doing what the donor class wants. Keeping us arguing about stupid sh*t while they figure out a way to not only not pay us, but to require us to maintain their systems for food while they keep all the profits.
 
Been saying same

If everyone is unemployed and poor, who will buy companys products or services?
This. I wonder who is paying regular price for fast food. Because there is no way i am paying $6 for a fucking McDonald filet-o- fish sandwich that is nothing but a 3x3 inch fish stick with some tartar sauce and half ( yes half ) a slice of american cheese.

I never buy fast food unless its a deal.
 
It’s not really an option now , other countries are heavily invested into AI for advanced weapons and attack schemes capable of doing calculations not possible otherwise in the same time frame without it and less mistakes.

AI in general is as dangerous as it is helpful. Ingenuity is key ,civilizations with intelligence will always go more in the direction of more practical ways and more efficiency to do jobs , White collar jobs will be most effected .

Really it comes down to who’s making the policies ,big business / richer enterprises will have an advantage and most likely squeeze the smaller ones out , complexity and expertise will widen putting major pressures on those who don’t have the financial backing to compete .
 
I think most of these posts are missing the point. I forget not everyone follows this issue closely despite it being the biggest issue of our time.

AGI followed by ASI indeed carries the biggest existential threat to humanity, bigger than nuclear annihilation or global warming. Most of the big players in AI believe there is at least a 20% of AI causing an extinction level event (some say even higher than that); even Elon Musk says this.

The reason we can't just scream at them to stop is China- the first nation to reach ASI will be running the show; that would be seriously tragic if that ends up being China for a number of reasons.

So therein lies the very scary problem- if we go too fast in developing AI, we run the real risk of a misalignment where we can't control the AI we build, and it ends up extincting us for its own purposes. But if we go slow, we run the risk of China developing ASI before we do, which could also be catastrophic.

Current theory on economics is that they will have to develop UBI once we reach ASI because it will basically take everyone's job. There isn't anything ASI can't do better than humans, so the world will be totally running on a new paradigm once this happens.
 
Well, hopefully this AI will tell companies, if they don't lower prices, nobody will beable to afford their overpriced products.
If we listened to AI right now ? Trump would be impeached months ago .

If you want to see something really scary about AI watch this entire video bc most of it came true already.

 
If we listened to AI right now ? Trump would be impeached months ago .

If you want to see something really scary about AI watch this entire video bc most of it came true already.


TDS is strong with you isn't it? lol.
I really do hope Trump finds a loophole to bring back 4 terms like Roosevelt had. Yes, 3 1/2 terms only because he dies hald way through his 4th term.
 
This. I wonder who is paying regular price for fast food. Because there is no way i am paying $6 for a fucking McDonald filet-o- fish sandwich that is nothing but a 3x3 inch fish stick with some tartar sauce and half ( yes half ) a slice of american cheese.

I never buy fast food unless its a deal.

For what it's worth I saw a couple of articles about economic downturn under Trump with all the market fluctuations. Basically the wealthy believe they are SO wealthy that they can float the economy by buying enough sh*t they dont need to prevent economic collapse. It has always been noted by economists who arent fond of economic heirarchies how small businesses often get sacrificed under capitalism (first malls did it, then big box stores did it, then online shopping did it), so they really dont give a f*ck how many small businesses collapse so long as they can have whatever they want delivered to them by the company of another billionaire, from a warehouse whose workforce are robots, and delivered by a robot truck.

This us peak living as far as they're concerned. Commoners either work to maintain the aspects of this that require maintenance, work as entertainment or areas of the service industry that requires humans, or die.
 
For what it's worth I saw a couple of articles about economic downturn under Trump with all the market fluctuations. Basically the wealthy believe they are SO wealthy that they can float the economy by buying enough sh*t they dont need to prevent economic collapse. It has always been noted by economists who arent fond of economic heirarchies how small businesses often get sacrificed under capitalism (first malls did it, then big box stores did it, then online shopping did it), so they really dont give a f*ck how many small businesses collapse so long as they can have whatever they want delivered to them by the company of another billionaire, from a warehouse whose workforce are robots, and delivered by a robot truck.

This us peak living as far as they're concerned. Commoners either work to maintain the aspects of this that require maintenance, work as entertainment or areas of the service industry that requires humans, or die.
I stopped listening to your garbage post when you managed to insert Trump into your post. Clown.
 
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