Economy Is AI Really Replacing Jobs?

[TeTe]

People really need to stop and realize that without AI there's a pretty good chance we'd be in a recession already. We've just put it off and will likely have a bigger crash.

I really think these big players are using OpenAI as a slush fund at this point.

 

[avenue94]

I really think these big players are using OpenAI as a slush fund at this point.

Copilot fucking sucks. It cant even format Word documents properly. I tried giving it a simple prompt asking to format the content in last page of one document just like the last page of another doc. After eight attempts I got almost all different outputs that weren't even close to what I wanted.

I could have done the shit myself in half the time.

Yeah, and Copilot+ has been pretty soundly rejected by the market.

It's just baffling that people can't distinguish between "there's demand for a product" and "there's demand for a product when it's sold at 50% under market price".

If you aren't on the silicon level, you're probably taking a bath on AI atm.

 

[lifelessheap]

Jobs? It's gonna be replacing human lives soon enough.

Palantir is terrifying.

 

[ricc505]

I don't have the answer, but we can't let it. I was lucky to have a job that ai won't be able to do for a while{I'm now retired) but I have come to realize how much of the world's population is unskilled and poorly educated. If AI and automation take all the menial jobs the poor will need the government to live. But the governments won't need the poor

 

[IDGETKTFO]

When husband came here on an O Visa it was literally because his employer couldn't find anyone in America with the expertise to do the job he needed. So think about that. He expedited the visa within weeks so fuck knows how much that cost.

Like i said, if they are worth it, fine. I just dont want immigrants getting H1B visa's just so tech companies can hire cheap labor, when those jobs could go to American citizens.

 

[chardog]

Palantir is terrifying.

Smh

 

[avenue94]

Like i said, if they are worth it, fine. I just dont want immigrants getting H1B visa's just so tech companies can hire cheap labor, when those jobs could go to American citizens.

If you look at the unemployment rate for Americans and demographic trends, you get a very clear answer on whether tech needs H1B labor.

 

[chardog]

Trump is 100% ok with H1B visas so don't expect any help there.

My wife said a whole team was cut. They were used to take notes for the doctors while they work but now they've been replaced by AI that can automatically transcribe everything for them while they work. Haven't heard anything beyond that. She works for a large company though so if it happened globally it was probably a lot of workers.

A long while back, I used to work with transcriptionist, as I am in the medical field, I didn’t know that that was still a job, most of the doctors even physician assistance I’ve seen at hospitals in person, use some form of dictation software. That feels at least 10 to 15 years ago.

 

[Rob Battisti]

I’m currently looking into an AI tool that will reduce the work of 35 workers down to 5.

This is real stuff.

 

[fingercuffs]

Like i said, if they are worth it, fine. I just dont want immigrants getting H1B visa's just so tech companies can hire cheap labor, when those jobs could go to American citizens.

If you look at the unemployment rate for Americans and demographic trends, you get a very clear answer on whether tech needs H1B labor.

Indeed. If Americans aren't clever enough to do the requested job it's understandable. It fucked me off when UK had to tender out to the EU for various outsourcing of things like food for schools.
But any normal sort of job that doesn't require someone whose won awards and stuff an exception does get made.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

If you look at the unemployment rate for Americans and demographic trends, you get a very clear answer on whether tech needs H1B labor.

Without even bothering to look at the unemployment rate, i am just going to assume the wages for tech is low, hence why Americans don't want the job. I mean why pay Americans a fair wage when you can get Indian immigrants to do the job for minimum wage, Amiright?

 

[fedoriswar37]

I work with a gigantic lefty anti capitalist who genuinely believes that AI will mean we can all "create art instead of working menial jobs"


It's like......create art with WHAT? You have no money to buy materials. Let's say you did. Who's buying your art? How are you feeding yourself or your family?

That's basically the lazy mindset of a young girl who'd rather do nothing despite being extremely good at what she does in a sector she adores and is very well paid for it. Guess what love - you won't be getting your 60k a year anymore to spend on attending eco friendly festivals that cost you over £600 for 3 days in a field in fucking Wales

Absolutely clueless

Nobody's going to want to look at his shitty art when you can have an AI generator make literally anything you want

 

[fingercuffs]

Nobody's going to want to look at his shitty art when you can have an AI generator make literally anything you want

I still buy art painted by an actual painter. Maybe no one cares about that anymore.

 

[fedoriswar37]

Yes and no. In my field ( HVACR) there is a ton of equipment that already has AI capabilities. Self diagnosing, constantly learning and studying building trends to improve itself to work more efficiently.

But that stuff breaks, components fail , board sensors etc. You get phantom issues , power outages, brownous. And that's where the value of a tech still comes in. Unless your an old-school guy who refuses to get with the times . Then you get replaced.

 

[Rob Battisti]

I know it sucks @Mr Holmes

What am I supposed to do? Remain inefficient and let our competitors win?

 

[fedoriswar37]

I still buy art painted by an actual painter. Maybe no one cares about that anymore.

Sure but the market for that stuff isn't going to change. People wont suddenly get interested because they have more time.

 

[HereticBD]

Yes. It's already happening, and you won't know it until you personally get bitten in the ass.

This is how it keeps on encroaching. Nobody takes it seriously, because they look around and think "Well I don't see no difference. I'm still good. Is this shit gonna evolve rapidly or something?"

Yes, yes it will. This shit has already started, and it's big ass sweeping takeover will be very swift and devastating.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

Yes. It's already happening, and you won't know it until you personally get bitten in the ass.

This is how it keeps on encroaching. Nobody takes it seriously, because they look around and think "Well I don't see no difference. I'm still good. Is this shit gonna evolve rapidly or something?"

Yes, yes it will. This shit has already started, and it's big ass sweeping takeover will be very swift and devastating.

Just like my wifes Photography career, it was rendered obsolete when cell phones got better then traditional SLR and DSLR Cameras. Imagine paying $5000-$10,000 for a camera when a cell phone can take just as good pictures using AI. Its a dead art. Ask @Contempt

 

[Mr Holmes]

I know it sucks @Mr Holmes

What am I supposed to do? Remain inefficient and let our competitors win?

You do what you gotta do. What were the responsibilities of the people being eliminated?

 

[SurferH2O]

The high-skilled jobs have severe shortages, so the AI is augmenting and not replacing. The bureaucratic jobs that are repetitive and predictive processes will be replaced over time.

I saw talks of the H1B Visas... they should be minimized. Did Trump not put a $100K fee on them? That should remain.