UFC Fight Night: Royval vs. Taira

[Stat_Collector]

Royval by Stoppage +400
Royval by KO/TKO +600

I'll likely add a sprinkle on the latter. That's a good hedge value.

sub 1750+

 

[Georges Hefner]

What do you mean by this for Taira? Do you just mean how it looks? I think his grappling looks great, but he has a pretty similar background to Royval. Neither have a background specifically in grappling, they just trained mixed martial arts in general starting in high school. And while I don't think it means much at this level, you could say Royval is technically more credentialed as a blackbelt.

Ive been watching ufc for over 5 years trust me i know what a good wrestler looks like. Japan is the powerhouse of wrestling now. They completely bossed Paris 2024. USA and Iran are no longer considered the best. Taira has been getting the best wrestling training in his country. Wrestling > BJJ

 

[Georges Hefner]

Japan in 1st place and Puerto Rico last place

 

[mkess101]

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Japan in 1st place and Puerto Rico last place

Obviously you mean outside Russia, since their guys can't compete right now.

 

[sonhow]

Obviously you mean outside Russia, since their guys can't compete right now.

Russia doesnt count

So yeah Japan n.1

 

[mkess101]

Russia doesnt count

So yeah Japan n.1

Haha noted. My bad.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Ive been watching ufc for over 5 years trust me i know what a good wrestler looks like. Japan is the powerhouse of wrestling now. They completely bossed Paris 2024. USA and Iran are no longer considered the best. Taira has been getting the best wrestling training in his country. Wrestling > BJJ

Taira is much more likely to try and jump the back than shoot.

 

[Stat_Collector]

Taira being reversed and put in a tight guillotine, Royval has the skills to get the submission.

time stamped.

 

[rev0lver]

Ive been watching ufc for over 5 years trust me i know what a good wrestler looks like. Japan is the powerhouse of wrestling now. They completely bossed Paris 2024. USA and Iran are no longer considered the best. Taira has been getting the best wrestling training in his country. Wrestling > BJJ

Well that's the thing... Taira does not have a background specifically in wrestling. He learned wrestling and BJJ as a part of his MMA training, the same way many others do. He's just pretty good at it. But I think there's more that needs to be seen, against fighters who can better defend and better exploit potential weaknesses, before we start making the Khabib comparisons.

 

[Thesnake101]

Fremd vs Abdul has been cancelled due to Josh missing weight. Argueta and Gooden also missed weight but the fights are still on.

 

[Georges Hefner]

Well that's the thing... Taira does not have a background specifically in wrestling. He learned wrestling and BJJ as a part of his MMA training, the same way many others do. He's just pretty good at it. But I think there's more that needs to be seen, against fighters who can better defend and better exploit potential weaknesses, before we start making the Khabib comparisons.

Perez and Mokaev have wrestling backgrounds. Mokaev struggled against Perez

Taira showed there’s levels to the grappling

 

[Georges Hefner]

Taira is much more likely to try and jump the back than shoot.

He does shoot takedowns. How else is he getting the back

 

[rev0lver]

It's not like Taira had a field day with Perez. Perez took him down in the 1st. Taira got a brief takedown and just had a nice back take in the 2nd with that weird injury move.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

He does shoot takedowns. How else is he getting the back

He jumps it standing a lot. He's probably the best in the world at that.

 

[BigSteve]

It's not like Taira had a field day with Perez. Perez took him down in the 1st. Taira got a brief takedown and just had a nice back take in the 2nd with that weird injury move.

Taira was countering him in the first although it was competitive. It seemed like Taira could grapple at any point and cover a big favourite line.

 

[ExitLUPin]

It's not like Taira had a field day with Perez. Perez took him down in the 1st. Taira got a brief takedown and just had a nice back take in the 2nd with that weird injury move.

Perez has some of the best TDD in the division though. We saw how little success Mokaev had trying to grapple him. Royval is in the Condit, Yair, Till tier of gust of wind takes him down TDD and with how prone he is to giving up his back and being put in bad positions it could be dangerous against a grappler like Taira.

Chairez is probably the most similar fighter to Royval stylistically though that Taira fought and he really struggled in that one. Got dropped by a left hook when he tried a level change, lost round 3 unanimously and was getting tuned up at points, slowing down. Chairez had him in a tight choke earlier that was close.

Taira -300 seems wide though. That line is basically saying he's good enough to be champ right now. Royval has fought most of the top 10 and opponents almost never look -300 against him. Kenney did back in LFA. Maybe Pantoja the first fight but we saw the rematch and Pantojas win relying solely on back control. I guess if you think Taira can do the same type of control and maybe finish it. 1st Moreno fight had shoulder injury and Royval looked slight favorite in rematch.

Even though most of Royval finishes come early I think round 3/4/5 props are worth a sprinkle of you're on Royval. He had Moreno in trouble at points late and Taira if there is prolonged striking doesn't have the speed, defense or boxing of Moreno.

 

[Georges Hefner]

Look at Royval when he talks about what he’s gonna do. When they ask about the grappling and submissions he shrivels. Betting on ufc isn’t just MMA knowledge, it’s reading people too and seeing the bullshit

 

[rollthedice]

thoughts on Alex Morono being a +275 dog against Drod? Morono is a sound striker who could easily outpoint the undisciplined Drod, I'm a fan of Drod but dude is 37 and on a 3 fight skid. Morono on the other hand slightly younger at 34.

Since 2022, Drod is 1-3 and Morono is 3-3, Drod failed the Magny test while Morono beat both Court Mcgee and Tim Means. Anyways, my dog of the card is Morono.

 

[sonhow]

thoughts on Alex Morono being a +275 dog against Drod? Morono is a sound striker who could easily outpoint the undisciplined Drod, I'm a fan of Drod but dude is 37 and on a 3 fight skid. Morono on the other hand slightly younger at 34.

Since 2022, Drod is 1-3 and Morono is 3-3, Drod failed the Magny test while Morono beat both Court Mcgee and Tim Means. Anyways, my dog of the card is Morono.

Based on last fights DRod win with ease. He basically had 50-50 fight with Fatstelum in completely unfair fight while Morono looked completely shot vs Price. But momentum matters and DRod has absolutely non left so maybe Morono styles on him despite the result making zero sense. Last week we had simmilar situation with Court McGee so whatever go for it if you feel like it. I think its 95p DRod but I gave same chances to Means and almost went broke so whatever.

 

[Thesnake101]

Based on last fights DRod win with ease. He basically had 50-50 fight with Fatstelum in completely unfair fight while Morono looked completely shot vs Price. But momentum matters and DRod has absolutely non left so maybe Morono styles on him despite the result making zero sense. Last week we had simmilar situation with Court McGee so whatever go for it if you feel like it. I think its 95p DRod but I gave same chances to Means and almost went broke so whatever.

Imo there's no reason to go with a big favorite when it's a battle between two washed up dudes. Rodriguez should win based off Morono's look against Niko, but I'd say Alex is the side at current odds.

Daniel is at the age where he's only going to look worse and worse from fight to fight, and between the two I think Alex is the one that has the tools to do more than engage in a striking match. Went with Court last week because of that reason.