International Trump: US will take over Gaza, resettle Palestinians

[filthybliss]

I wasn’t suggesting you didn’t know these things.

Dude. wtf? I have never suggested they aren’t people. I’ve consistently advocated for the end of their perpetual suffering and looked for a better future.

I never justified ethnic cleansing. I have been the 1 person advocating for Egypt annexing Gaza and making pals citizens. Never once suggested Israelis have any physical footprint in Gaza.

Wow. I never said any of that, implied that or believe that. You are taking your own mask off I see.

I don’t want any of them to leave. wtf?

Well, I thought I was having a good faith dialogue with someone who was open to one and who I had respected. Please don’t make up my positions. If you want to quote me feel and address specifics free but don’t make shit up.

All I said was that both groups have legitimate claims to a piece of dirt and they both deserve states. I mentioned that the PLO was open to negotiations since the 70s and accepted Israel’s as a state since the UN242 resolution.

You responded to me with a bunch of polls and history of past misdeeds committed by Arab Muslims for some reason…Why did you do that? If you weren’t implying that ethnic cleansing was the move here…

 

[Yoricks Wisdom]

i think "nazi" is a perfectly fine term for people who think hitler was a good guy, people who perform nazi salutes in public, and people who push nazi conspiracy theories

sure you bet, labels are the most effective way to marginalize those you disagree with hence ending any possibility of useful dialogue/discussion.
brilliant!

 

[Misfit23]

Saudi Arabia said no.

That pretty much puts the kabash on this.

 

[J_C]

sure you bet, labels are the most effective way to marginalize those you disagree with hence ending any possibility of useful dialogue/discussion.
brilliant!

i mean if i was a mean mustache fan i would call myself what my enemies do and wear it proudly. like blax with the N word.

 

[kflo]

All I said was that both groups have legitimate claims to a piece of dirt and they both deserve states. I mentioned that the PLO was open to negotiations since the 70s and accepted Israel’s as a state since the UN242 resolution.

I gave my view of history and “deserve” is relative to current reality. Israel IS a state. So the question is what about the Palestinian refugees.

You responded to me with a bunch of polls and history of past misdeeds committed by Arab Muslims for some reason…Why did you do that? If you weren’t implying that ethnic cleansing was the move here…

I gave my view, and my perspective that prioritizing the next generations of Palestinians future is a priority so that should be a major consideration in assessing potential plans..

 

[Hog-train]

Trump has NO INTENTION to make this an ethnically homogenous state, no matter how much bizarro logic you try to force in to this discussion. There won't be anyone there to make it homogenous. And Trump says, VERY CLEARLY, everyone from all over the world is welcome back after things are rebuilt, including Palestinians. There's no ethnic cleansing going on here.

Of course they'll be forced to leave, they'll die if they stay. Sometimes you have to save those with mental disabilities from themselves.

You can't survive in a place like this.

You are incredibly naive if you think Palestinians will be welcomed back after they've been displaced out of Gaza. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians have already been displaced and made into permanent refugees since the 1940's and you expect them to believe Trump when he says "trust me bro?"

Trump literally said in the press conference he wants "long term OWNERSHIP" of Gaza.

Laughable gaslighting - Stating "We're not doing ethnic cleansing!" while they proceed to do just that.

Trump says he sees 'long-term US ownership' of Gaza, won't rule out deploying US troops

President Donald Trump said he won’t rule out deploying U.S. troops to support reconstruction of Gaza and that envisions “long-term” U.S. ownership of a redevelopment of the territory.

apnews.com

 

[J_C]

funny to see. more often than not, people based about vax were right winged

now all the righties genocidal, and lefties on reasonable side

 

[Fergelmince]

You are incredibly naive if you think Palestinians will be welcomed back after they've been displaced out of Gaza. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians have already been displaced and made into permanent refugees since the 1940's and you expect them to believe Trump when he says "trust me bro?"

Trump literally said in the press conference he wants "long term OWNERSHIP" of Gaza.

Laughable gaslighting - Stating "We're not doing ethnic cleansing!" while they proceed to do just that.

Trump says he sees 'long-term US ownership' of Gaza, won't rule out deploying US troops

President Donald Trump said he won’t rule out deploying U.S. troops to support reconstruction of Gaza and that envisions “long-term” U.S. ownership of a redevelopment of the territory.

apnews.com

You're way too emotional about this and not thinking rationally. This has led you to pick apart what Trump said in the press conference to suit your opinion. If you take him at his word when he says he wants "long term ownership" then you have to take him at his word when he says "I envision the world's people living there" which is completely contrary to ethnic cleansing by definition. You also have to take him at his word when asked if the Gazans/Palestinians should return after Gaza is rebuilt and Trump answers, "Palestinians also. Palestinians will live there. Many people will live there (contrary to ethnic cleansing)." If you don't believe him regarding Palestinians returning, then you can't believe him when he says he wants long term ownership. As I told your counterparts with an Oppresser/Oppressed world view, calm your tits on throwing around the "ethnic cleansing" claims because you are morally and technically wrong. You're literally missing half the equation, on purpose.

 

[DoctorTaco]

lol, like 100 000s genocided and u worried about phrase towel head?

I said redneck too, is that not a problem?

No, I give you permission to use that one.

 

[J_C]

No, I give you permission to use that one.

how about N word? say it constantly IRL because i hood

 

[DoctorTaco]

how about N word? say it constantly IRL because i hood

If that’s the case then you should be able to post it here. Just explain to the mods you say it constantly IRL because “I hood”

 

[Hog-train]

You're way too emotional about this and not thinking rationally. This has led you to pick apart what Trump said in the press conference to suit your opinion. If you take him at his word when he says he wants "long term ownership" then you have to take him at his word when he says "I envision the world's people living there" which is completely contrary to ethnic cleansing by definition. You also have to take him at his word when asked if the Gazans/Palestinians should return after Gaza is rebuilt and Trump answers, "Palestinians also. Palestinians will live there. Many people will live there (contrary to ethnic cleansing)." If you don't believe him regarding Palestinians returning, then you can't believe him when he says he wants long term ownership. As I told your counterparts with an Oppresser/Oppressed world view, calm your tits on throwing around the "ethnic cleansing" claims because you are morally and technically wrong. You're literally missing half the equation, on purpose.

I'm thinking perfectly rationally. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians have already been displaced and permanently kicked out. Why in the world would anyone believe it will be different this time?

And when he says the "world's people" living there. Well then that would be people that have no historical claim to this land, that just 1.5 years ago was all inhabited by Palestinians. Why should these "world's people" be allowed to just come into their land to live there?

 

[Fergelmince]

I'm thinking perfectly rationally. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians have already been displaced and permanently kicked out. Why in the world would anyone believe it will be different this time?

And when he says the "world's people" living there. Well then that would be people that have no historical claim to this land, that just 1.5 years ago was all inhabited by Palestinians. WHy should these "world's people" be allowed to just come into their land to live there?

It's literally impossible for you to be rational about this. Everything I said above still stands. Who is supposed to keep these "world's people" out of Gaza after it's rebuilt and how would they do it?

 

[Hog-train]

It's literally impossible for you to be rational about this. Everything I said above still stands. Who is supposed to keep these "world's people" out of Gaza after it's rebuilt and how would they do it?

This is a common tactic people use when they can't come up with a rational argument. "Why are you so emotional bro!?"

I wasn't being emotional at all. You just bolded and made my sentence big to somehow convey emotionality where it doesn't exist. Ok there. Just answer the question.

Who are these "world's people" that will be placed into Gaza? Why should the Palestinians have to make room for these people in their land?

 

[Fergelmince]

This is a common tactic people use when they can't come up with a rational argument. "Why are you so emotional bro!?"

I wasn't being emotional at all. You just bolded and made my sentence big to somehow convey emotionality where it doesn't exist. Ok there. Just answer the question.

Who are these "world's people" that will be placed into Gaza?

LOL, I'll answer your question - these "world's people" are everyone who doesn't have a historical claim to this land, in your world view.

So answer the question, if no one else belongs there, who is supposed to keep these "world's people" out of Gaza after it's rebuilt and how would they keep these "world's people" out? Just answer the question.

 

[Blayt7hh]

Lol, you seriously are blaming Israel for all of this when Trump is calling for this. Harris explicitly was calling for a ceasefire and a two state solution…

WATCH: Harris says two-state solution, end of Israel-Hamas war is crucial

Vice President Kamala Harris said she would continue to work on a two-state solution “around the clock.”

www.pbs.org

We told you that Trump would be even worse for Gaza but you had your head too far up Glenn Greenwald’s ass to listen.

Yeah and guess who that little turd for brains supported in the election?

 

[Hog-train]

LOL, I'll answer your question - these "world's people" are everyone who doesn't have a historical claim to this land, in your world view.

So answer the question, if no one else belongs there, who is supposed to keep these "world's people" out of Gaza after it's rebuilt and how would they keep these "world's people" out? Just answer the question.

What do you mean no one belongs there? How about the Palestinians who have been living there? Don't even know WTF you're saying with this word salad.

 

[Fergelmince]

What do you mean no one belongs there? How about the Palestinians who have been living there? Don't even know WTF you're saying.

You Gaza-first people are fucking clowns. the fact you won't answer my question is proof you have nothing but an emotional argument from your Oppressor/Oppressed world view. You people have been outed.

 

[Hog-train]

You Gaza-first people are fucking clowns. the fact you won't answer my question is proof you have nothing but an emotional argument from your Oppressor/Oppressed world view. You people have been outed.

Your question doesn't even make sense. WTF are you asking.

if no one else belongs there, who is supposed to keep these "world's people" out of Gaza after it's rebuilt and how would they keep these "world's people" out? Just answer the question.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Trump has leftwing radicals on their heels where they're not used to being, considering how passive the GOP usually is. They seriously don't know how to react except with hyperbole, superlatives and articles of impeachment

I responded to a group of them again here.

Just look at where they think these people should be living:

If the place needs rebuilding why not just make it all hotels and casinos?