lol at you thinking I need
@Fawlty to feel bold enough to comment. I guess you forget our exchange in the thread before this one where you were far more direct.
I don't. You were consistently using whataboutism and bothsidesism while suggesting you hold the moral high ground and others are just being partisan if they don't agree.
Bothsideism does not require you saying they are EQUAL offenses as you seem to think.
franklinstower
Well we are both talking about "should" a lot here. I think that is good but we are focusing on different things that should and should not be.
My center of gravity here is right and wrong.
My allegiance is to preserving right and wrong and calling it out everywhere it is found.
I think Trump is one of the worst things that have ever happened to this country. I think he is dangerous and unstable and capable of degrading the country in profound ways. I think he is doing that.
Having said that Trump IS going to gain political capital from this and it is Bidens falut and the democratic parties fault (I am a Democrat) for allowing and considering acceptable and normal behavior that is obviously corrupt.
Biden is corrupt and I don't care if it is legal or illegal.
I am glad I know what Trump has revealed about him. It just puts another piece of info into the picture of a terrible candidate that we should NOT nominate for present.
The fact is both sides have lost their way and neither side has moral credibility even though the Republicans are obviously worse. The dems would have a moral case to make if it weren't for the fact that they are corrupt also.
What all of us should be doing is fighting against corruption wherever it is found, every single time it is found and we should never cover for it or diminish it when we see it on "our" side because corruption is the biggest issue we face today an it trumps all else-- even Trump.
I would maybe not be so gung ho about this
in the primary were there not a corruption free candidate competing for the nomination, but there is so why settle for fucking Biden when we have Bernie? Why protect a lying liar when we have a truth teller? Why argue our side is bad but your side is worse when we could say our presidential nominee is stainless?
Let all these corrupt people burn to the ground every time it is found and make a case to the people of real change and not just ordinary levels of corruption and lying. We would only gain reliability in the eyes of the public and true moral standing if we did it.
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Look franklinstower, i am glad you are trying to soften your stance and pretend these were not your positions prior. I hope I had some role in educating you and changing your view. But you DID say it, and that is why I took issue. It was stupid and wrong and riddled with bothsideism's and whataboutism's. without comprehending why they don't apply.
