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Elections Trump Foreign Policy Blunders MegaThread

ChosenOne said:
Would you prefer someone who thinks Trump doing what both Biden and Obama did prior, in sending migrants back to Columbia on airplanes is now 'ZOMG SO AMAZING' because Trump turns it in to a circus by using Military planes and shackles at 3 times the cost it cost Biden and Obama , using civilian planes?

Do you want that fan girl energy in your thread?
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You do know those guys were criminals, right? First-wave deportations were people with criminal history.
 
idrankyourbeer said:
perhaps trump should have set a later date to have the troops pulled out when he signed that deal before he left office. all biden did was honor it.

damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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False. Trump’s deal was conditional based on Taliban’s actions.

Trump didn’t intend on lying to people about the strength of the paper Afghan government so his deal would’ve ended if the Taliban made moves before the US completed a clean evacuation. If they had moved on Kabul while the US was still moving out. Then the deal was off.

They would’ve waited in the mountains while Trump pulled out and then the following days would see them takeover as Trump rightly anticipated when he dealt directly with the Taliban to craft his agreement.

They obviously didn’t have the same respect for Biden. And Biden didn’t force the conditions Trump/Pompeo set. He cut the Taliban out completely.

In fact, Biden simply lied and pretended that the Afghan army would hold on it’s own. An obvious lie.

Granted, Trump would’ve still left some equipment. As the equipment wasn’t so much “abandoned” as it was the artillery for the worthless Afghan army that couldn’t be bother to defend themselves for one day and thus shouldn’t have been in our evacuation plans.

It would’ve been considerably less had Trump been in office but I bet even Trump thought those pussies could last atleast a day.
 
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Xanzito said:
You do know those guys were criminals, right? First-wave deportations were people with criminal history.
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Why would i know something that is not true and only repeated, as a lie, on magat media?

Again Obama before Trump, deported MORE than Trump did in 2016, and prioritized criminals, and Biden after Trump also SURPASSED Trump numbers and also prioritized criminals.

Trump despite his rhetoric put the least effort in to, once he actually gained power just as he soon forgot about pushing his "Wall".

And Obama and Biden sent those people at ~1/3rd the cost Trump did by not using the far more expensive military flights which along with the shackles are just a circus fed to magats to make them clap like seals.
 
I 100% believe Trump will drop the T from the LGBT in what concerns any form of foreign policy communication.
If he does this he's instantly top 5 foreign policy US presidents of all time.
 
idrankyourbeer said:
perhaps trump should have set a later date to have the troops pulled out when he signed that deal before he left office. all biden did was honor it.

damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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Yup which was the plan.

Magats and others blame Biden for not delaying the withdrawal to ensure things were done optimally. Had Biden done that and delayed the withdrawal and the Taliban, then believed Biden was not going to leave and honor the deal, and ramped up attacks to try and force the US hand, those same magats, and the media would have said 'Why did Biden not just stick to the deal that Trump already arranged and just leave...'.

There was no perfect way out and Trump assured that but what Biden did was something every other POTUS prior, since the war started, failed to accomplish, including Trump, which was to get America out.
 
Fox by the Sea said:
I 100% believe Trump will drop the T from the LGBT in what concerns any form of foreign policy communication.
If he does this he's instantly top 5 foreign policy US presidents of all time.
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Fergelmince said:
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Solid failure on the books for biden, as opposed to the typical woulda coulda shoulda you people always have for Trump. <lmao>
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What blame do you attribute to Trump?

If indeed he is the chosen one and the only one who can fix these hugely important priorities he outlined in 2016... why did not he not finish either?

Is that not a massive failure if you believe you are the only one who can do it and the Dems would bungle it ...to then leave both issues to the Dems to finish because you did not have the time off the golf course to get them done?

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Imagine had Trump actually been the one to get the US out of Afghanistan and do so clean... imagine if Trump actually had been the one to end illegal migration...

Trump is desperate for a signature legacy win that would see him elevated from the worst POTUS of all time, to one of the best and arguably accomplishing either one of those, and certainly both, would have elevated him in those talks.


So why did he chose not to complete either? Or was it incompetence and lack of focus that prevented it?
 
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