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Elections Trump calls for probe of famed Iowa pollster J. Ann Selzer after she quits role

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yes but its also profoundly divisive and corrosive for the American populace. its in the vein of a lot of trumps rhetoric which is about lying in way that divides people from one another which he believes (rightly so I guess) gives him more power and authority. trump tears apart marriages this way, friendships this way and the populace in general this way.

its vulgar and base and violent at heart.

basically the only way trump sees to bring trump up is by tearing everyone else down.its the great harm trump does that makes him a true villain.
I agree with any adjectives you so choice to assign to this.
 
he did that with me one night and just lied about it and pretended he had proved something. he does this a lot but is usually a sophisticated sophist rarely telling outright lies. I know he is a sophist but that night he revealed himself to be as bad as the worst posters on here. no sophistication and no intellect. just lying outright.

@Jack V Savage
Not going to bite.
 
I asked for any examples of people saying it’s bad that it was noticed. Since it’s an accurate claim, can you provide one? You’re actually

You’re entire premise that it’s just an empty threat is doing just about that. You seemingly have more issue with people holding Trump accountable for his own words than you do with Trump for saying it. There are actually quite a few posters itt expressing similar sentiments.
 
Your entire premise that it’s just an empty threat is doing just about that. You seemingly have more issue with people holding Trump accountable for his own words than you do with Trump for saying it. There are actually quite a few posters itt expressing similar sentiments.
“I’m not a trump supporter, I just say he’s bad here n there and downplay every shitty thing that he does while amplifying every mistake that one of his political rivals make”

I think it’s obvious that they fit in the MAGA cabinet of single issue voters on drag.
 
In those exact words? You haven't been seeing Republicans call it hysterical to worry about the president-elect expressing disturbingly anti-freedom-of-speech views?
Seen it? He's one of the ones saying it
It is a good example of an empty threat. You are living in fear.
I made my point clear. It’s not going to happen. Stop living in fear.
And yet he's playing dumb about it even though we can go back and see his posts.
Is that the same as saying the thing that is the issue is people were aware of it?
More or less if not exactly. You're criticizing me for "living in fear" instead of conceding that the president-elect showing disdain for free speech is a problem.
 
You’re entire premise that it’s just an empty threat is doing just about that. You seemingly have more issue with people holding Trump accountable for his own words than you do with Trump for saying it. There are actually quite a few posters itt expressing similar sentiments.
"Centrists" like Rob will rarely, if ever, criticize anyone that's supposed to be to their right so you can't expect him to ever call out anything from the MAGA side with any vigor.
“I’m not a trump supporter, I just say he’s bad here n there and downplay every shitty thing that he does while amplifying every mistake that one of his political rivals make”

I think it’s obvious that they fit in the MAGA cabinet of single issue voters on drag.
But remember he's a "centrist" so you can't call him out for being a hack because that makes you the partisan.
 
Seen it? He's one of the ones saying it


And yet he's playing dumb about it even though we can go back and see his posts.

More or less if not exactly. You're criticizing me for "living in fear" instead of conceding that the president-elect showing disdain for free speech is a problem.
Lmao I was CLEARY referring to him sharing that people are saying the issue was “people noticing”.

Don’t play stupid.
 
Lmao I was CLEARY referring to him sharing that people are saying the issue was “people noticing”.

Don’t play stupid.
That's the implication of you ridiculing me for "living in fear", that caring about it is the problem and that its a nothingburger.
 
That's the implication of you ridiculing me for "living in fear", that caring about it is the problem and that it’s a nothingburger.

You ARE living in fear of something that is unlikely to happen and is outside your control. It’s a sad existence.
 
You ARE living in fear of something that is unlikely to happen and is outside your control. It’s a sad existence.
Sure you can feel that way but then you're just proving JVS' point here, you seem to have more of an issue with me noticing it and "living in fear" than you do with a president-elect using his bully pulpit to target a private citizen who published something he didn't like to include the threat of an investigation.
 
Sure you can feel that way but then you're just proving JVS' point here, you seem to have more of an issue with me noticing it and "living in fear" than you do with a president-elect using his bully pulpit to target a private citizen who published something he didn't like to include the threat of an investigation.
I have no problem with you noticing. I agreed with you it’s not a good thing it’s happening. You can twist it in knots to fit your boyfriends nonsensical post all you want.
 
I have no problem with you noticing.
Sure but you're happy to ridicule me for "living in fear" with the message being
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"Centrists" like Rob will rarely, if ever, criticize anyone that's supposed to be to their right so you can't expect him to ever call out anything from the MAGA side with any vigor.

But remember he's a "centrist" so you can't call him out for being a hack because that makes you the partisan.
And more than that, if you watch talk shows where Republicans go on to defend Trump's latest display of disdain for American values, you'll see that it's almost word-for-word what Rob says.
 
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