Crime Trump Administration Sent Legal Immigrant to Prison in El Salvador

More than that, assuming he's even still alive (which is questionable), they don't want him talking to the press. They can't have people learning about the kinds of human rights abuses going on down there in a regular basis.
Good point. Another reason why we need to get him back, he could help undermine the regime
 
Half (or possibly more) of the country just want all people who came here illegally just deported. They don't care what method is used.

Are you this fucking stupid? He wasn't "just deported". He was sent to maximum security prison in El Salvador that advertises torturing the inmates incarcerated there.

And all of that was done in a few days without any of the due process required by THE CONSTITUTION of this country where he was abducted from.

Stop making excuses for authoritarians.
 
These morons want to create hard times because the need to prove they are strong men. The most ass backward way of thinking possible.
they really dont have any idea how bad this could get and in how many different ways. its tragically shortsighted.
 
This is US Senator Chris Van Hollen in El Salvador. He asked this very question.

Apparently, the answer from the El Salvadoreans was that the Trump administration is paying them to keep him at CECOT.



Well, yeah, trump admins pay them to hold our "criminals" and the trump admin has him down as a criminal, even despite acknowledging it as a mistake that he got deported. They are essentially digging their feet in and doubling down that despite deporting him by mistake, it doesn't matter because they still think (without a trial to prove it) that he's a criminal. It's weird times man.
 
You are entitled to your false truth. But i am sorry to tell you, your false truth means nothing. Come back to me when this illegal alien comes back to the US, don't hold your breathe though, lol
it is true though... non citizens do have rights and one of the reasons is because those right protect citizens too. if this admin can just detain and deport people to death camps with no due process then effectively the government can do that to a us citizen.

you guys are supporting fascism and the destruction of our country in a gleeful frenzy of hatred.
 
I'm not sure what you are trying to say with this...
Are you this fucking stupid? He wasn't "just deported". He was sent to maximum security prison in El Salvador that advertises torturing the inmates incarcerated there.

And all of that was done in a few days without any of the due process required by THE CONSTITUTION of this country where he was abducted from.

Stop making excuses for authoritarians.

Understand English? Half or possibly more of the country DO NOT GIVE A SHIT.

They just want all people who came here illegally gone. No matter the method. Whether they have criminal records or not. Whether it is done humanely or with due process or not. They DON'T CARE. That's my point.

Well, yeah, trump admins pay them to hold our "criminals" and the trump admin has him down as a criminal, even despite acknowledging it as a mistake that he got deported. They are essentially digging their feet in and doubling down that despite deporting him by mistake, it doesn't matter because they still think (without a trial to prove it) that he's a criminal. It's weird times man.

It was only one immigration lawyer in the administration that said it was a mistake. And that lawyer got promptly fired.

So the government is actually not saying it was a mistake.

 
Understand English? Half or possibly more of the country DO NOT GIVE A SHIT.

They just want all people who came here illegally gone. No matter the method. Whether they have criminal records or not. Whether it is done humanely or with due process or not. They DON'T CARE. That's my point.



It was only one immigration lawyer in the administration that said it was a mistake. And that lawyer got promptly fired.

So the government is actually not saying it was a mistake.

yeah but that is not a reply to my answer to your question. you asked why he is not being released or imprisoned in a regular elsalvadorian prison. I told you that its trump showing that he can disappear people without due process.

your reply doesn't make any sense unless you are trying to tacitly say that YOU support what trump is doing.
but that means that you support fascism and abandoning the rule of law and turning America into a third world country.


trump is sending a message that he can disappear anyone he wants and that they will never come back. he has even said that its time to open more for citizens. citizens. and lets not lose context... more and more American citizens are being detained and harassed by agents who won't identify themselves.

at what point do you grow some balls and stand for country over cult leader man?
 
yeah but that is not a reply to my answer to your question. you asked why he is not being released or imprisoned in a regular elsalvadorian prison. I told you that its trump showing that he can disappear people without due process.

your reply doesn't make any sense unless you are trying to tacitly say that YOU support what trump is doing.
but that means that you support fascism and abandoning the rule of law and turning America into a third world country.


trump is sending a message that he can disappear anyone he wants and that they will never come back. he has even said that its time to open more for citizens. citizens. and lets not lose context... more and more American citizens are being detained and harassed by agents who won't identify themselves.

at what point do you grow some balls and stand for country over cult leader man?

And I corroborated what you said by looking up that video with that Senator.

My additional reply afterward is a separate point. That this is what a lot of Americans want.
 
And I corroborated what you said by looking up that video with that Senator.

My additional reply afterward is a separate point. That this is what a lot of Americans want.
do you want it? do you think the fact that they want it makes it ok to violate our constitution? does might make right?
 
do you want it? do you think the fact that they want it makes it ok to violate our constitution? does might make right?

I'm more in the middle.

First and foremost - not ok to ignore Constitution or rulings by the Supreme Court. That's completely unacceptable (and Trump won't be able to get away with it for long - this is temporary)

But I do want mass deportations. There are about 600K illegal immigrants with some kind of criminal record in the country as well as 2.4 million with EXISTING deportation orders. Meaning a judge already gave a final ruling to have them deported.

Then there are several million with ongoing asylum cases with only 700+ judges. Cases take years for one person. Then there are several million with some kind of temporary protected status. This is according to the NY Times and not some right wing publication.

We literally do not have enough ICE agents, judges, facilities and infrastructure to actually deport just the criminals and existing deportees. So that is the primary problem. Not enough judges, agents and facilities to house deportees.

I do want a pathway to citizenship for people who were brought here illegally as little kids (DACA) and also people who have been here for like 15-20 years and have a job, pay taxes, and no criminal record, etc.

I want the rest of the illegals out ASAP. And to hire more judges and process the literal millions of asylum cases processed much faster. The vast majority of them do not actually qualify. They're just relying on the system being so backed up, that they end up staying here.
 
I'm more in the middle.

First and foremost - not ok to ignore Constitution or rulings by the Supreme Court. That's completely unacceptable (and Trump won't be able to get away with it for long - this is temporary)

But I do want mass deportations. There are about 600K illegal immigrants with some kind of criminal record in the country as well as 2.4 million with EXISTING deportation orders. Meaning a judge already gave a final ruling to have them deported.

Then there are several million with ongoing asylum cases with only 700+ judges. Cases take years for one person. Then there are several million with some kind of temporary protected status. This is according to the NY Times and not some right wing publication.

We literally do not have enough ICE agents, judges, facilities and infrastructure to actually deport just the criminals and existing deportees. So that is the primary problem. Not enough judges, agents and facilities to house deportees.

I do want a pathway to citizenship for people who were brought here illegally as little kids (DACA) and also people who have been here for like 15-20 years and have a job, pay taxes, and no criminal record, etc.

I want the rest of the illegals out ASAP. And to hire more judges and process the literal millions of asylum cases processed much faster. The vast majority of them do not actually qualify. They're just relying on the system being so backed up, that they end up staying here.
do you regret voting for a man attempting to turn America into a fascistic regime? would you support his impeachment over this?
 
Understand English? Half or possibly more of the country DO NOT GIVE A SHIT.

They just want all people who came here illegally gone. No matter the method. Whether they have criminal records or not. Whether it is done humanely or with due process or not. They DON'T CARE. That's my point.



It was only one immigration lawyer in the administration that said it was a mistake. And that lawyer got promptly fired.

So the government is actually not saying it was a mistake.


Well, then it sounds like you have your answers. They think he's a criminal, and that's why they're paying el salvador to keep him imprisoned.
 
do you regret voting for a man attempting to turn America into a fascistic regime? would you support his impeachment over this?

I voted for Kamala - never voted for a Republican in my entire life.

I really dislike her though, but knew Trump will just give massive tax cuts for the rich and try to cut Medicaid and Social Security.
 
Dafaq you quote me saying your fucking wall of text? I didn't write that garbage.
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I summarized the information like you asked me to.


See right here.
I am not reading that word salad clown. If you can't argue your opinion in a few sentences, go find someone else to argue with. lol.
Bottom line, your Hombre is home where he belongs, and isn't coming back to the greatest country on earth. Deal with it.
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And DID NOT insult you or calle you names. I did respectfully. Just presented facts. And refuse trade insults. I just want to present the informationn.

I'm taking this case seriously. I will organize the information I find but not going bicker because I think that undermines the larger issue. I honestly think you are glossing over some vital information. I don't if this is just confirmation bias or conative disssoance or whatever but every American regadless of poltical leaning shou;d be concerned.
 
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