Crime Trump Administration Sent Legal Immigrant to Prison in El Salvador

Just remember if you’re a non white then once you join a gang then apparently you’re a gang member for life and can never get that off your back regardless of how young you were or what you did since then. However if you’re a white person you can rape children and be forgiven by the maga party instantly lol. Maga party shows what they are about everyday.

We got the same fuckwits talking about “forgiveness” and “learn” from their “mistakes “ in other threads about whitey but god forbid they show that grace to anyone else

These guys are just not real people. Zero self awareness. Zero consistency
 
This is just a test of Trump/Republican authoritarian power. Do it to an immigrant, next to citizens and political opponents.

He already said he want to ship citizens out to foreign prison camps. Flat out said that….

How can anyone support this? If you do you officially are not American. You are a supporter of a dictatorial regime.
 
Terrible optics the maryland representative actually going to El Salvador. That lady was raped and murdered in his state by an illegal from El Salvador. That's some crazy logic IMO. Desperate for headlines I guess.

And one thing I don't understand. If the guy sent there was given a stay while in the US and not deported due to threats
from a "rival gang", doesn't that suggest he himself is in a gang? Average citizens are often caught in the crossfire and become
collateral damage so to speak but if returning to his native land risked imminent harm/death to him, it's a strong indication
he was (and presumably still is?) a gang member.
This is just my summary understanding of the situation, def NOT fan fiction or FF as some call it.
 
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For the dummies ITT

If you're like Shane and need a refresher on why due process is important for any and all



If you're repeating the pam blondi or karoline Levitt talking points that he was a convicted ms13 gang member....false. no evidence. Any allegation or claim was made by a CI and documented by a cop that is not credible and didn't stand up in court, where it counts!

 
Terrible optics the maryland representative actually going to El Salvador. That lady was raped and murdered in his state by an illegal from El Salvador. That's some crazy logic IMO. Desperate for headlines I guess.

And one thing I don't understand. If the guy sent there was given a stay while in the US and not deported due to threats
from a "rival gang", doesn't that suggest he himself is in a gang? Average citizens are often caught in the crossfire and become
collateral damage so to speak but if returning to his native land risked imminent harm/death to him, it's a strong indication
he was (and presumably still is?) a gang member.

I mean this is just complete fanfiction. He wasn't protected from deported due to threats from a "rival gang" but because a gang (not even ms13) was extorting his family's business and trying to force him to join the gang when he and his brother were teenagers.
 
He’s from El Salvador he’d just go back
Again, he’s under an order not to be deported there, and that order is final.
He could eventually be deported somewhere else. And if that’s what ends up happening (and I assume it eventually would), that’s fine. But every person here is entitled to due process under the law. Everyone.
 
I mean this is just complete fanfiction. He wasn't protected from deported due to threats from a "rival gang" but because a gang (not even ms13) was extorting his family's business and trying to force him to join the gang when he and his brother were teenagers.
Wait, so he abandoned his family to their fate with the gang and fled to the US selfishly? Smh, not very loyal.

and lol at 'fanfiction' whatever that is.

Btw, ever step on a punji stick? I have, almost lost my damn leg.
 

El Salvador blocks US senator from visiting wrongly deported Salvadoran man​


  • Democrat US senator denied access to Abrego Garcia
  • Senator says was told U.S. was paying to keep him incarcerated
  • Van Hollen says no evidence presented to show Abrego Garcia was gang member
SAN SALVADOR, El Salvador, April 16 (Reuters) - Democratic U.S. Senator Chris Van Hollen said on Wednesday authorities in El Salvador had denied him access to Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the Salvadoran man mistakenly deported and being held in a notorious prison in the country.

Van Hollen arrived in the Central American nation on Wednesday morning saying he would seek to meet with senior Salvadoran officials to secure Abrego Garcia's release.

But Van Hollen told reporters El Salvador's Vice President Felix Ulloa had told the senator he could not authorize a visit or a call with Abrego Garcia.

Van Hollen, who is a member of the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said Ulloa had also told him El Salvador was not releasing Abrego Garcia because the United States was paying to keep him incarcerated.

"Why should the government of the United States pay the government of El Salvador to lock up a man who was illegally abducted from the United States and committed no crime?" Van Hollen said.

The government of El Salvador did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Van Hollen's visit.

After Washington acknowledged Abrego Garcia had been deported due to an "administrative error," the U.S. Supreme Court upheld an order by Judge Paula Xinis directing the government to "facilitate" Abrego Garcia's return.

In a meeting with President Donald Trump at the White House on Monday, El Salvador's president, Nayib Bukele, said he had no plans to return Abrego Garcia. Earlier on Monday, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security said in a court filing that it "does not have authority to forcibly" bring Abrego Garcia back.

On Tuesday, Xinis said she would not immediately hold the government in contempt of court, but said there was no evidence the Trump administration had tried to retrieve Abrego Garcia and said she would not tolerate "gamesmanship or grandstanding."

Along with Abrego Garcia, the Trump administration has deported hundreds of people, mostly Venezuelans, whom it says are gang members, to El Salvador under the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 without presenting evidence and without a trial.

Neither government has released the names of the men incarcerated, and the men have not had access to lawyers or any contact with the outside world since arriving at the prison, lawyers have said.

In March, after a judge said flights carrying migrants prosecuted under the Alien Enemies Act should return to the United States, Bukele wrote on X that it was too late, alongside images showing men being rushed off a plane in the dark.

A federal judge on Wednesday said officials in Trump's administration could face criminal prosecution for contempt of court for violating his order last month halting deportations of Venezuelan migrants under the Alien Enemies Act, a wartime law.

Abrego Garcia, 29, left El Salvador at age 16 to escape gang-related violence, his lawyers have said. He was granted a protective order in 2019 to continue living in the United States. He has never been charged with or convicted of any crime, according to Abrego Garcia's lawyers, who have denied the Justice Department's allegation that he is a member of the criminal gang MS-13.

During his San Salvador press conference, Van Hollen stressed that neither the Salvadoran government nor the Trump administration have presented any evidence that Abrego Garcia was a member of the gang.

U.S. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth was to meet on Wednesday with El Salvador's minister of national defense, Rene Merino, at the Pentagon.

https://www.reuters.com/world/ameri...e-wrongly-deported-salvadoran-man-2025-04-16/

- THis makes Trump administration looks rater weak. If they could've reversed that mistake, that would givbe the optics Trump has some type of strong-hand in this, but instead looks like Bukele is the one pulling the trigger here.
 
But every person here is entitled to due process under the law. Everyone.
This is a very interesting concept IMO. So, even if an individual enters the US illegally, they are immediately granted
the same rights as citizens? Perhaps even in spite of their criminal history in their native land?
Is this some type of "Geneva Convention" footnote I missed?
Many would say that anyone here illegally has "NO" rights regarding their status and freedom.
 

El Salvador blocks US senator from visiting wrongly deported Salvadoran man​


  • Democrat US senator denied access to Abrego Garcia
  • Senator says was told U.S. was paying to keep him incarcerated
  • Van Hollen says no evidence presented to show Abrego Garcia was gang member
SAN SALVADOR, El Salvador, April 16 (Reuters) - Democratic U.S. Senator Chris Van Hollen said on Wednesday authorities in El Salvador had denied him access to Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the Salvadoran man mistakenly deported and being held in a notorious prison in the country.

Van Hollen arrived in the Central American nation on Wednesday morning saying he would seek to meet with senior Salvadoran officials to secure Abrego Garcia's release.

But Van Hollen told reporters El Salvador's Vice President Felix Ulloa had told the senator he could not authorize a visit or a call with Abrego Garcia.

Van Hollen, who is a member of the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said Ulloa had also told him El Salvador was not releasing Abrego Garcia because the United States was paying to keep him incarcerated.

"Why should the government of the United States pay the government of El Salvador to lock up a man who was illegally abducted from the United States and committed no crime?" Van Hollen said.

The government of El Salvador did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Van Hollen's visit.

After Washington acknowledged Abrego Garcia had been deported due to an "administrative error," the U.S. Supreme Court upheld an order by Judge Paula Xinis directing the government to "facilitate" Abrego Garcia's return.

In a meeting with President Donald Trump at the White House on Monday, El Salvador's president, Nayib Bukele, said he had no plans to return Abrego Garcia. Earlier on Monday, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security said in a court filing that it "does not have authority to forcibly" bring Abrego Garcia back.

On Tuesday, Xinis said she would not immediately hold the government in contempt of court, but said there was no evidence the Trump administration had tried to retrieve Abrego Garcia and said she would not tolerate "gamesmanship or grandstanding."

Along with Abrego Garcia, the Trump administration has deported hundreds of people, mostly Venezuelans, whom it says are gang members, to El Salvador under the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 without presenting evidence and without a trial.

Neither government has released the names of the men incarcerated, and the men have not had access to lawyers or any contact with the outside world since arriving at the prison, lawyers have said.

In March, after a judge said flights carrying migrants prosecuted under the Alien Enemies Act should return to the United States, Bukele wrote on X that it was too late, alongside images showing men being rushed off a plane in the dark.

A federal judge on Wednesday said officials in Trump's administration could face criminal prosecution for contempt of court for violating his order last month halting deportations of Venezuelan migrants under the Alien Enemies Act, a wartime law.

Abrego Garcia, 29, left El Salvador at age 16 to escape gang-related violence, his lawyers have said. He was granted a protective order in 2019 to continue living in the United States. He has never been charged with or convicted of any crime, according to Abrego Garcia's lawyers, who have denied the Justice Department's allegation that he is a member of the criminal gang MS-13.

During his San Salvador press conference, Van Hollen stressed that neither the Salvadoran government nor the Trump administration have presented any evidence that Abrego Garcia was a member of the gang.

U.S. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth was to meet on Wednesday with El Salvador's minister of national defense, Rene Merino, at the Pentagon.

https://www.reuters.com/world/ameri...e-wrongly-deported-salvadoran-man-2025-04-16/

- THis makes Trump administration looks rater weak. If they could've reversed that mistake, that would givbe the optics Trump has some type of strong-hand in this, but instead looks like Bukele is the one pulling the trigger here.
Yea, it's his country. I guess he can do what he wants.
That being said, however, the obvious foot dragging by the administration is silly and weakens their position to some extent IMO.
 
The trump admin is dangerously close to being held in criminal contempt. I expected they would eventually disobey the courts, I just didn't expect it would be this quick in the term, nor did I expect it would be over something that they themselves admitted was a mistake.
 
I have no issue with the deportation of any illegal. They shouldn't be here. Sending someone to a hellish prison without due process is another matter entirely
And this is why illegal aliens should be taking Trump and AG Bondi's advice and SELF DEPORT!
 
For the dummies ITT

If you're like Shane and need a refresher on why due process is important for any and all



If you're repeating the pam blondi or karoline Levitt talking points that he was a convicted ms13 gang member....false. no evidence. Any allegation or claim was made by a CI and documented by a cop that is not credible and didn't stand up in court, where it counts!


Of course they hang out at Home depot. Thats how they recruit other illegal aliens into their gang.
 
Wait, so he abandoned his family to their fate with the gang and fled to the US selfishly? Smh, not very loyal.

and lol at 'fanfiction' whatever that is.

Btw, ever step on a punji stick? I have, almost lost my damn leg.

He was 16 lmao

How many gangsters did you protect your family from when you were 16?
 
This is a very interesting concept IMO. So, even if an individual enters the US illegally, they are immediately granted
the same rights as citizens? Perhaps even in spite of their criminal history in their native land?
Is this some type of "Geneva Convention" footnote I missed?
Many would say that anyone here illegally has "NO" rights regarding their status and freedom.
This is a common point of confusion, but U.S. law is pretty clear on this. The Constitution doesn’t limit its protections solely to citizens. The 5th and 14th Amendments both use the term “person,” not “citizen,” which means that anyone on U.S. soil—regardless of immigration status—is entitled to certain basic rights. That includes due process under the law and equal protection. The Supreme Court has reaffirmed this principle in several key cases over the years.

For example, in Plyler v. Doe (1982), the Court ruled that undocumented children still had the right to a public education because they are “persons” under the 14th Amendment. Similarly, in Zadvydas v. Davis (2001), the Court held that even non-citizens who were in the U.S. unlawfully could not be detained indefinitely without due process. These aren’t fringe interpretations—this is settled constitutional law.

Now, to be clear, this doesn’t mean undocumented immigrants are treated like citizens. They can’t vote, hold certain jobs, or claim most federal benefits. And if they commit crimes—either here or if they have a known criminal history from their home country—they can be subject to detention and removal. But they are still entitled to a legal process, including the right to challenge deportation, request asylum, or seek protection under humanitarian grounds.

So no, it’s not a Geneva Convention issue. It’s a constitutional one. And while many argue politically that those here illegally should have “no rights,” that’s not how the U.S. legal system functions. It may not sit well with everyone, but it’s a cornerstone of how the country defines rule of law and individual protections.
 
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Now, that is some motherfucking sourcing, without the common vitriol.
Bravo.
 

El Salvador blocks US senator from visiting wrongly deported Salvadoran man​


  • Democrat US senator denied access to Abrego Garcia
  • Senator says was told U.S. was paying to keep him incarcerated
  • Van Hollen says no evidence presented to show Abrego Garcia was gang member
SAN SALVADOR, El Salvador, April 16 (Reuters) - Democratic U.S. Senator Chris Van Hollen said on Wednesday authorities in El Salvador had denied him access to Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the Salvadoran man mistakenly deported and being held in a notorious prison in the country.

Van Hollen arrived in the Central American nation on Wednesday morning saying he would seek to meet with senior Salvadoran officials to secure Abrego Garcia's release.

But Van Hollen told reporters El Salvador's Vice President Felix Ulloa had told the senator he could not authorize a visit or a call with Abrego Garcia.

Van Hollen, who is a member of the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said Ulloa had also told him El Salvador was not releasing Abrego Garcia because the United States was paying to keep him incarcerated.

"Why should the government of the United States pay the government of El Salvador to lock up a man who was illegally abducted from the United States and committed no crime?" Van Hollen said.

The government of El Salvador did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Van Hollen's visit.

After Washington acknowledged Abrego Garcia had been deported due to an "administrative error," the U.S. Supreme Court upheld an order by Judge Paula Xinis directing the government to "facilitate" Abrego Garcia's return.

In a meeting with President Donald Trump at the White House on Monday, El Salvador's president, Nayib Bukele, said he had no plans to return Abrego Garcia. Earlier on Monday, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security said in a court filing that it "does not have authority to forcibly" bring Abrego Garcia back.

On Tuesday, Xinis said she would not immediately hold the government in contempt of court, but said there was no evidence the Trump administration had tried to retrieve Abrego Garcia and said she would not tolerate "gamesmanship or grandstanding."

Along with Abrego Garcia, the Trump administration has deported hundreds of people, mostly Venezuelans, whom it says are gang members, to El Salvador under the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 without presenting evidence and without a trial.

Neither government has released the names of the men incarcerated, and the men have not had access to lawyers or any contact with the outside world since arriving at the prison, lawyers have said.

In March, after a judge said flights carrying migrants prosecuted under the Alien Enemies Act should return to the United States, Bukele wrote on X that it was too late, alongside images showing men being rushed off a plane in the dark.

A federal judge on Wednesday said officials in Trump's administration could face criminal prosecution for contempt of court for violating his order last month halting deportations of Venezuelan migrants under the Alien Enemies Act, a wartime law.

Abrego Garcia, 29, left El Salvador at age 16 to escape gang-related violence, his lawyers have said. He was granted a protective order in 2019 to continue living in the United States. He has never been charged with or convicted of any crime, according to Abrego Garcia's lawyers, who have denied the Justice Department's allegation that he is a member of the criminal gang MS-13.

During his San Salvador press conference, Van Hollen stressed that neither the Salvadoran government nor the Trump administration have presented any evidence that Abrego Garcia was a member of the gang.

U.S. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth was to meet on Wednesday with El Salvador's minister of national defense, Rene Merino, at the Pentagon.

https://www.reuters.com/world/ameri...e-wrongly-deported-salvadoran-man-2025-04-16/

- THis makes Trump administration looks rater weak. If they could've reversed that mistake, that would givbe the optics Trump has some type of strong-hand in this, but instead looks like Bukele is the one pulling the trigger here.
I watched an interview today with his lawyer, and she confirmed nobody -including his lawyers- has had any contact with him.

He's dead imo
 
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