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International Trump: 25% tariffs on Mexican and Canadian imports will start Tuesday, with ‘no room’ for delay

I was being sarcastic as the tariffs actually seem to be working. Multiple companies have made multi billion dollar investments because of them. People are concerned about prices of foreign goods and thats supposed to be precisely the point. To get people to buy domestically and to get companies to make products here.
Lol.

Just completely clueless. Tariffs offer potential protection to certain sectors. Blanket tarrifs will have an adverse effect. And as @Darkballs explained. Companies will find cheaper alternatives, not spend billions on infrastructure to build 'murican.

The level of tarrifs causing a trade war, essentially turns the US into an isolation state. Not a great economic plan. But keep drinking the Kool aid my man
 
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Fentanyl comes from Chy-Na, through Mexico and Canada and distributed throughout North America.

Sounds like we need better security at the borders and ports of entry , no?
Lmao . The illegal weapons used for crimes come across the American border and the opiod crisis started in the US.
 
Lmao . The illegal weapons used for crimes come across the American border and the opiod crisis started in the US.
We just need to go back to Afghanistan and take control of the opium poppy production. Heroin is/was a much better alternative to fentanyl.
 
Lmao . The illegal weapons used for crimes come across the American border and the opiod crisis started in the US.
What a load.

lol right, because Mexico has played no part in trafficking drugs to the USA

The opioid crisis started with China and has been allowed to fester by all of North America.
 
US tariffs have been the lowest in US history for a long time. They've been creeping down for a long time:
Average_tariff_rates_%28France%2C_UK%2C_US%29.png


Offsetting tariffs with income tax reductions is a smart move, income tax is essentially a negative tax on people who work, work longer, work better and more productive, etc. It actually discourages working more and earning more.

Levying tariffs instead offers more production and investment in America. Because our consumer market is so heavily sought after many companies will be forced to on-shore or face grave economic consequences. We are powerful enough as a consumer market to persuade companies to on-shore manufacturing, especially given China's current economic hardships. There are also companies that are moving a lot of manufacturing to Mexico, whether that's from America for the cheaper labour or from China to avoid paying tariffs levied on China.

Obviously it's a balance with protectionism and we will see how it plays out, but all in all I believe these tariffs may pay off in terms of on-shoring companies (as we are seeing hundreds of billions of investments trying to avoid tariffs) and increased revenues from them. If we offset the increase in consumer prices with lowered income taxes, it should also encourage people to produce more as they will be encouraged to work more. On top of that, if Mexico and Canada actually address border security then we also get border security and the tariffs gone on top.

Mexico at the very least deserves a tariff just for how they have handled the border with US. The fact that we let that go on for so long with no repercussions is a disgrace.
 
Ah, yes, Canada. The great land where there are no drug traffickers and if there are they respect the laws of the border.


In fact, the amount of fentanyl seized at the Canada-US border is hardly impressive: 19.5 kilograms were seized by US border agents between October 2023 and September 2024, compared with nearly 9,600 kilograms at the borders with Mexico. In 2022, moreover, a report from the US Congress estimated that Canada was not a major country for fentanyl. How much of Canada's production goes to the US? "It's very difficult to know, and it's not necessarily Canada's primary market, which exports as far away as Oceania.

<22> It's amazing Bellingham WA hasn't turned into Juarez.
 
What a load.

lol right, because Mexico has played no part in trafficking drugs to the USA

The opioid crisis started with China and has been allowed to fester by all of North America.
The opiod crisis was started by Purdue pharma in the 90s in the united states. Fentynal didn't reach north America as an alternative until the 21st century. So the taste for synthetic opiods was started in the US , and yes exasperated by all of North America.
 
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In fact, the amount of fentanyl seized at the Canada-US border is hardly impressive: 19.5 kilograms were seized by US border agents between October 2023 and September 2024, compared with nearly 9,600 kilograms at the borders with Mexico. In 2022, moreover, a report from the US Congress estimated that Canada was not a major country for fentanyl. How much of Canada's production goes to the US? "It's very difficult to know, and it's not necessarily Canada's primary market, which exports as far away as Oceania.

<22> It's amazing Bellingham WA hasn't turned into Juarez.
I'm not going to argue about whether or not fentanyl is a problem that needs more attention. I assume you don't want it in your country (assuming you're canadian) anymore than I want it in mine
 
Nobody even does Heroin anymore. Too expensive, not as potent. It's fenny and crystal meth.
Because there's no heroin to do lol. At least speaking for my area, almost no heroin gets seized. It's all fentanyl as far as opiates are concerned. And watching fentanyl quickly become the drug that is almost always the highest quantity in busts with multiple drugs involved is nuts. It's not by choice end users are buying fentanyl. And there's no convincing me it's not related to the withdrawal from Afghanistan and loss of control of the opium production that entailed.
 
I'm not going to argue about whether or not fentanyl is a problem that needs more attention. I assume you don't want it in your country (assuming you're canadian) anymore than I want it in mine
It's the fucking entire basis of these tariffs. You should care it's on false pretenses. I'm a damn red blooded American bucko, dont cast labels. It's uncouth.
 
What a load.

lol right, because Mexico has played no part in trafficking drugs to the USA

The opioid crisis started with China and has been allowed to fester by all of North America.

Probably more the Sackler family than China tbh
 
Because there's no heroin to do lol. At least speaking for my area, almost no heroin gets seized. It's all fentanyl as far as opiates are concerned. And watching fentanyl quickly become the drug that is almost always the highest quantity in busts with multiple drugs involved is nuts. It's not by choice end users are buying fentanyl. And there's no convincing me it's not related to the withdrawal from Afghanistan and loss of control of the opium production that entailed.
My wife works with the homeless community. It's significantly stronger and cheaper , probably cause it's more readily available yes. But if both were , they're still likely reaching for fentanyl.
 
US tariffs have been the lowest in US history for a long time. They've been creeping down for a long time:
Average_tariff_rates_%28France%2C_UK%2C_US%29.png


Offsetting tariffs with income tax reductions is a smart move, income tax is essentially a negative tax on people who work, work longer, work better and more productive, etc. It actually discourages working more and earning more.

Levying tariffs instead offers more production and investment in America. Because our consumer market is so heavily sought after many companies will be forced to on-shore or face grave economic consequences. We are powerful enough as a consumer market to persuade companies to on-shore manufacturing, especially given China's current economic hardships. There are also companies that are moving a lot of manufacturing to Mexico, whether that's from America for the cheaper labour or from China to avoid paying tariffs levied on China.

Obviously it's a balance with protectionism and we will see how it plays out, but all in all I believe these tariffs may pay off in terms of on-shoring companies (as we are seeing hundreds of billions of investments trying to avoid tariffs) and increased revenues from them. If we offset the increase in consumer prices with lowered income taxes, it should also encourage people to produce more as they will be encouraged to work more. On top of that, if Mexico and Canada actually address border security then we also get border security and the tariffs gone on top.

Mexico at the very least deserves a tariff just for how they have handled the border with US. The fact that we let that go on for so long with no repercussions is a disgrace.

Wow, one quarter into the XXI century and people still peddle import substitution crap.
 

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