International Trump: 25% tariffs on Mexican and Canadian imports will start Tuesday, with ‘no room’ for delay

[evergreenrider]

Yes, we should work together.

By making the citizens of each country eat shit and struggle even harder than they have been since the great coof. Sound logic

 

[Seano]

You do realize Mexico, Canada and the US have been in a free trade zone bloc since 1994 right?

In December of last year, Mexico imposed tariffs on textiles , while restricting imports.

In April of last year, Mexico imposed increased tariffs on aluminum. 25-35% tariffs in both cases.

Let me use the search function and see if I can find your outraged posts about it. BRB.

 

[evergreenrider]

She's front line and has worked with everyone from full on addicts to addicts in recovery or active treatment or so on. So i definitely lean on her opinion of it or if she's heard specifically. I will ask her more specifics but the stories suggest the sheer potency of fenny outweighs the quality of the high from heroin. These people will hear of a fentynal batch that killed somebody and they search tooth and nail to find it. Its now about the strongest shit they can find and that's fentanyl.

You may have been correct 10 15 years ago but the disease evolved . The difference between them is negligible and not enough for the brain to seek 1 over the other. Sad to see tho. That shit takes over your mind body and soul.

Theres also the dosage frequency issue of fentanyl which, imo, is the most insidious aspect of it. With standard opiates, withdrawal symptoms generally start setting in 24-72 hrs after last dosage. With fentanyl, withdrawals start after mere hours of last dose. The cycle it creates is hell.

 

[Rod1]

In December of last year, Mexico imposed tariffs on textiles , while restricting imports.

In April of last year, Mexico imposed increased tariffs on aluminum. 25-35% tariffs in both cases.

México blinda industria textil con nuevos aranceles - El Sol de México | Noticias, Deportes, Gossip, Columnas

La presidenta Claudia Sheinbaum firmó un decreto para aumentar a 35% de aranceles a mercancías confeccionadas y 15% a la importación de mercancías textiles

oem.com.mx

President Claudia Sheinbaum and Economy Secretary Marcelo Ebrard signed a decree on Thursday that imposes tariffs of between 15 and 35 percent on textile products imported from countries with which Mexico does not have free trade agreements , such as China .

The measures defined in the decree seek to curb practices that have harmed the Mexican textile industry , such as technical smuggling and tax evasion , Ebrard explained at the head of the Executive's morning conference .

Notice how that doesn't applies to nations with which Mexico has trade agreements.

Let me use the search function and see if I can find your outraged posts about it. BRB.

Even in the case that the stupid shit you said was true, i wouldn't consider Mexico an example to follow in terms of economic management.

 

[Seano]

México blinda industria textil con nuevos aranceles - El Sol de México | Noticias, Deportes, Gossip, Columnas

La presidenta Claudia Sheinbaum firmó un decreto para aumentar a 35% de aranceles a mercancías confeccionadas y 15% a la importación de mercancías textiles

oem.com.mx

President Claudia Sheinbaum and Economy Secretary Marcelo Ebrard signed a decree on Thursday that imposes tariffs of between 15 and 35 percent on textile products imported from countries with which Mexico does not have free trade agreements , such as China .

The measures defined in the decree seek to curb practices that have harmed the Mexican textile industry , such as technical smuggling and tax evasion , Ebrard explained at the head of the Executive's morning conference .

Notice how that doesn't applies to nations with which Mexico has trade agreements.


Even in the case that the stupid shit you said was true, i wouldn't consider Mexico an example to follow in terms of economic management.

The reasons they imposed tariffs are the same reason we are. The playing field is not level and we cannot compete. Free trade is not equal trade and never has been. The US has lost everything because of this. We're tired of propping every one up.

Why is it OK for everyone to put tariffs on imported goods except for the USA?

 

[Rod1]

The reasons they imposed tariffs are the same reason we are.

No, they are not.

The playing field is not level and we cannot compete. Free trade is not equal trade and never has been. The US has lost everything because of this. We're tired of propping every one up.

Of course its not equal, its called comparative advantage and one of the reasons why free trade has triumphed over economic voodoo.

Why is it OK for everyone to put tariffs on imported goods except for the USA?

Why are you repeating stupid stuff that isn't true? countries don't impose blanket tariffs on allies, you tried to claim Mexico did to the US but was caught lying your ass off.

Also the reason Mexico put tariffs on aluminium was because the US asked Mexico to do it because the Chinese are dumping aluminium in Mexico melting it and re-exporting to the US

 

[Hdfi]

All these tariffs on China are because dumbasses and weaklings are getting their asses kicked in free market capitalism.

 

[Seano]

No, they are not.

Yeah, they are. Tariffs are to level the playing field. The reason you imposed tariffs was to compete with countries who can produce what you can't for the same price. You are that to us. We've lost so much manufacturing to Mexico for that very reason. Trump is right, Mexico robs us blind and has been for years, then lets your people invade our country with fentanyl to fund their escapades.

 

[Seano]

By making the citizens of each country eat shit and struggle even harder than they have been since the great coof. Sound logic

The USA has been eating shit for 30 years now. We've lost everything for the betterment of everyone else.

 

[matheuss92]

México blinda industria textil con nuevos aranceles - El Sol de México | Noticias, Deportes, Gossip, Columnas

La presidenta Claudia Sheinbaum firmó un decreto para aumentar a 35% de aranceles a mercancías confeccionadas y 15% a la importación de mercancías textiles

oem.com.mx

President Claudia Sheinbaum and Economy Secretary Marcelo Ebrard signed a decree on Thursday that imposes tariffs of between 15 and 35 percent on textile products imported from countries with which Mexico does not have free trade agreements , such as China .

The measures defined in the decree seek to curb practices that have harmed the Mexican textile industry , such as technical smuggling and tax evasion , Ebrard explained at the head of the Executive's morning conference .

Notice how that doesn't applies to nations with which Mexico has trade agreements.


Even in the case that the stupid shit you said was true, i wouldn't consider Mexico an example to follow in terms of economic management.

stop bringing facts to the table man... do you even understand the dopamine rush of pretending to know about shit you cant prove?

 

[Scheme]

Not all of them impose blanket tariffs on close trade partners, especially not shitholes.


Because China uses states subsidies to get market share.


EU has 27 countries and these countries don't have tariffs with each other, apart from these countries the EU as a block has several free trade agreements with several countries around the world.



Because they are retarded stuff that has long been debunked long time ago, this is like when commies claim that you need to debunk communism every single time someone tries to argue that the shit still works.

Plenty of companies use state funding, that simply isn't an answer.

EU already has tariffs on America buddy. And you are changing the subject again. You claimed that protecting national industries via tariffs was debunked. Now you suddenly found a use case for it! Maybe if you think harder you'll even come up with some more use cases for tariffs! I believe in you.

Why is our "close trade partner" letting millions of people through our border? And the other one hundreds of thousands? Not to mention the illicit drugs, human trafficking, gang members, etc. Maybe they should have to pay for their dereliction of border duties.

Sad that you have to resort to insults instead of addressing my actual points. Probably because you don't have the ability to.

 

[Squintz]

For people defending this move, what exactly do you stand to gain from this or what does the country as a whole stand to gain from this?

This question was asked on page 4. I was genuinely curious to see if anybody had a response 5 pages later…… and nothing.

I’d love to hear a response.

 

[Scheme]

This question was asked on page 4. I was genuinely curious to see if anybody had a response 5 pages later…… and nothing.

I’d love to hear a response.

US tariffs have been the lowest in US history for a long time. They've been creeping down for a long time:

Offsetting tariffs with income tax reductions is a smart move, income tax is essentially a negative tax on people who work, work longer, work better and more productive, etc. It actually discourages working more and earning more.

Levying tariffs instead offers more production and investment in America. Because our consumer market is so heavily sought after many companies will be forced to on-shore or face grave economic consequences. We are powerful enough as a consumer market to persuade companies to on-shore manufacturing, especially given China's current economic hardships. There are also companies that are moving a lot of manufacturing to Mexico, whether that's from America for the cheaper labour or from China to avoid paying tariffs levied on China.

Obviously it's a balance with protectionism and we will see how it plays out, but all in all I believe these tariffs may pay off in terms of on-shoring companies (as we are seeing hundreds of billions of investments trying to avoid tariffs) and increased revenues from them. If we offset the increase in consumer prices with lowered income taxes, it should also encourage people to produce more as they will be encouraged to work more. On top of that, if Mexico and Canada actually address border security then we also get border security and the tariffs gone on top.

Mexico at the very least deserves a tariff just for how they have handled the border with US. The fact that we let that go on for so long with no repercussions is a disgrace.

 

[Darkballs]

Yeah, they are. Tariffs are to level the playing field. The reason you imposed tariffs was to compete with countries who can produce what you can't for the same price. You are that to us. We've lost so much manufacturing to Mexico for that very reason. Trump is right, Mexico robs us blind and has been for years, then lets your people invade our country with fentanyl to fund their escapades.

You just got caught pushing a lie and just shamelessly march on with the whataboutism.

Grow a spine.

 

[Seano]

You just got caught pushing a lie and just shamelessly march on with the whataboutism.

Grow a spine.

I didn't lie about anything. Mexico imposed tariffs for the same reason we are imposing tariffs. Every country imposes tariffs on imports.

 

[Islam Imamate]

You just got caught pushing a lie and just shamelessly march on with the whataboutism.

Grow a spine.

He has the unfortunate combination of stupidity, arrogance, and malice which naturally leads him astray.

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

You’re not a big fan, which is fine, but anyone else who says they’re not a big fan is a trained seal?

Nope. But the way you idiots are over reacting is a conditioned response.

 

[Seano]

He has the unfortunate combination of stupidity, arrogance, and malice which naturally leads him astray.

 

[Sweater of AV]

Plenty of companies use state funding, that simply isn't an answer.

EU already has tariffs on America buddy. And you are changing the subject again. You claimed that protecting national industries via tariffs was debunked. Now you suddenly found a use case for it! Maybe if you think harder you'll even come up with some more use cases for tariffs! I believe in you.

Why is our "close trade partner" letting millions of people through our border? And the other one hundreds of thousands? Not to mention the illicit drugs, human trafficking, gang members, etc. Maybe they should have to pay for their dereliction of border duties.

Sad that you have to resort to insults instead of addressing my actual points. Probably because you don't have the ability to.

Lol at this dork pretending to be American.



The Canadians on here are absolutely hilarious.

 

[Darkballs]

I didn't lie about anything. Mexico imposed tariffs for the same reason we are imposing tariffs. Every country imposes tariffs on imports.

Sure you did. And everyone can just go read the exchange from you and @Rod1 and see that.

You first claimed Mexico put tariffs on on textiles and aluminum and asked why no one cared. Then it was explained to you that these were tariffs on were on China, whom Mexico has no trade agreement with. You then claimed this was the same thing. It was then explained to you that these tariffs were done on BEHALF of the US who didn't want Chinese aluminum circumventing our restrictions.

All of that would have been obvious if you had just read the article. But you clearly didn't, even when you were corrected not once, but twice.

And this is a recurring problem we see with trumpers in the war room. You very clearly just parrot stuff you heard on right-wing sites without any attempt to verify if it's legit. Then when caught, you just double down and insist in the vaguest way possible, that it's all the same.