Media Tom Aspinall: Jon Jones "Ruled OUT" Being GOAT Cause He's A Drug "CHEAT"

[snaportap21]

Well, those are two comoletely different moments. He might be thinking strictly best with the mt rushmore, and might be a bit more liberal with terms with Pierce. Or maybe he mispoke, which is understandable because a lot of people do use them interchangeable.

Or maybe he just thinks there is only one greatest, and the rest are basically honorable mentions. So it may disqualify you from being the best/greatest, but you can still get an honorable mention.

Either way, I don't think there is a real contraction in what he has said.

I think putting a ped user on your mt Rushmore after you say ped users are cheaters is pretty contradictory, but that’s just me. We can agree to disagree. It’s nothing massive, though it’s just a funny slight contradiction imo.

 

[Mind Mine]

Talking about yourself?

You tried it was corny

 

[markg171]

You are using your own circular logic repratedly. Jon should have been stripped before the Stipe fight. Sitting on the belt for like 18 months should not be allowed to anyone.

He didn't sit on it. He scheduled a defence and got injured 10 days out.

He then returned and defended it when healthy.

Now, after the Stipe fight, Jon must unify against Tom who already defended his prop belt. He keeps saying he doesn’t want to. Maybe it’s just a marketing trick, but anyway, he should unify or vacate. Very simple.
Pereira is the bigger fight, but he can have it after the Tom fight.

Again, why is Jon the one who needs to be stripped next if Tom ALSO isn't fighting in this time period? That makes no sense; Tom will have been inactive even longer and isn't the real divisional champ.

If anybody needs to be stripped it's Tom.

 

[World eater]

He didn't sit on it. He scheduled a defence and got injured 10 days out.

He then returned and defended it when healthy.

Again, why is Jon the one who needs to be stripped next if Tom ALSO isn't fighting in this time period? That makes no sense; Tom will have been inactive even longer and isn't the real divisional champ.

If anybody needs to be stripped it's Tom.

I like it how you are very consistent in your madness. Nobody should be allowed to sit out for 18 months, injury or no injury. Jiri and Hill were “persuaded” to vacate when they got injured. Jon is obviously above that.
The second problem is that Jon keeps saying he will not fight Tom who is interim champ and obvious number 1 contender. If you see no issue with that, I can’t help you.
Jon should fight Tom asap, get that out of the way and then fight Pereira as his last fight.

 

[markg171]

I like it how you are very consistent in your madness. Nobody should be allowed to sit out for 18 months, injury or no injury. Jiri and Hill were “persuaded” to vacate when they got injured. Jon is obviously above that.
The second problem is that Jon keeps saying he will not fight Tom who is interim champ and obvious number 1 contender. If you see no issue with that, I can’t help you.
Jon should fight Tom asap, get that out of the way and then fight Pereira as his last fight.

You keep completely skipping over the fact that Tom is also sitting out, and doing so even longer than Jon.

Why would we reward the interim champ for doing even less than the divisional champ?

 

[World eater]

You keep completely skipping over the fact that Tom is also sitting out, and doing so even longer than Jon.

Why would we reward the interim champ for doing even less than the divisional champ?

There is nothing to reward, he beat everyone but Gane (who refused to fight him on 2 occasions that I remember). He also already defended the fake belt. Jon - Tom is the only fight to make at HW.

 

[markg171]

There is nothing to reward, he beat everyone but Gane (who refused to fight him on 2 occasions that I remember). He also already defended the fake belt. Jon - Tom is the only fight to make at HW.

You are once again completely skipping over that if Jon/Tom doesn't happen it makes zero sense to promote Tom if Tom's by contrast simply sitting on his interim belt even longer than Jon. He's giving even less of a reason to be champion by sitting out even longer.

And yes, doubly so if Jon instead convinces the UFC to make a defence against Pereira while Tom hopes to face the winner. Jon would be the one actively defending his title while Tom's doing nothing if he's also not defending his interim in the mean time.

Tom would be the person to strip there. An interim champ who also isn't defending is the liability, not the actual divisional champ.

 

[mkess101]

You are once again completely skipping over that if Jon/Tom doesn't happen it makes zero sense to promote Tom if Tom's by contrast simply sitting on his interim belt even longer than Jon. He's giving even less of a reason to be champion by sitting out even longer.

And yes, doubly so if Jon instead convinces the UFC to make a defence against Pereira while Tom hopes to face the winner. Jon would be the one actively defending his title while Tom's doing nothing if he's also not defending his interim in the mean time.

Tom would be the person to strip there. An interim champ who also isn't defending is the liability, not the actual divisional champ.

This logic only holds if Tom refused a fight with Jones. When there's an interim champ, the belts get unified. That's why they do an interim title fight in the first place.
Tom's "inactivity" from this point on would ONLY be due to the title holder refusing to unify with the interim title holder. Jon's would be due to him making the CHOICE to refuse to unify. That's the difference.
Let's see if Dana keeps his word and forces Jon to unify or vacate.

 

[deanambrose]

I mean Aspinall.

Oh, and @markg171 I liked you but reading this whole thread I must say - you are an idiot.

 

[rstringer]

Any word from the junkie yet ?

 

[markg171]

This logic only holds if Tom refused a fight with Jones. When there's an interim champ, the belts get unified. That's why they do an interim title fight in the first place.
Tom's "inactivity" from this point on would ONLY be due to the title holder refusing to unify with the interim title holder. Jon's would be due to him making the CHOICE to refuse to unify. That's the difference.
Let's see if Dana keeps his word and forces Jon to unify or vacate.

Jon not fighting Tom because he instead wants to defend against Pereira excuses Tom's own even longer inactivity as he only wants Jon. So we should make Tom who's going even longer without fighting and isn't willing to defend against someone else as well the divisional champ instead. To possibly simply just defend against Pereira anyways.

Do you see how ridiculous you all sound? Tom's the one who's being the worse champion there, not Jones.

Strip Tom for doing fuck all and let Jon defend against Pereira or whoever. Problem solved about there being an interim belt by simply getting rid of it. Like it should've never been made in the first place. If he wants to sit and wait for a title shot he can do it without an interim if he thinks he's so earned it instead of being willing to defend again while Jon's out there defending.

You guys seem to live in some bizarro world where the interims are the real belts and their holders deserve all the privileges and benefits. Do you think that works with BMF belts too? If the interim also has problems, and worse ones, get rid of that one. You don't promote them and reward their bad behaviour.

 

[markg171]

I mean Aspinall.

Oh, and @markg171 I liked you but reading this whole thread I must say - you are an idiot.

I don't even know who you are.

But if you've got Jones saying he'll defend against Pereira and Tom saying he's not doing anything but wait for Jon or be promoted after already going 5 months without fighting, strip his ass.

THAT's the champion doing fuck all and is unnecessary.

 

[mkess101]

Jon not fighting Tom because he instead wants to defend against Pereira excuses Tom's own even longer inactivity as he only wants Jon. So we should make Tom who's going even longer without fighting and isn't willing to defend against someone else as well the divisional champ instead. To possibly simply just defend against Pereira anyways.

Do you see how ridiculous you all sound? Tom's the one who's being the worse champion there, not Jones.

Strip Tom for doing fuck all and let Jon defend against Pereira or whoever. Problem solved about there being an interim belt by simply getting rid of it. Like it should've never been made in the first place. If he wants to sit and wait for a title shot he can do it without an interim if he thinks he's so earned it instead of being willing to defend again while Jon's out there defending.

You guys seem to live in some bizarro world where the interims are the real belts and their holders deserve all the privileges and benefits. Do you think that works with BMF belts too? If the interim also has problems, and worse ones, get rid of that one. You don't promote them and reward their bad behaviour.

You're an absolute moron, got it. There are no "real belts" when the UFC can strip any champ, for any reason WHENEVER THEY WANT.

You're not a fan of the sport. You're a Jon Jones nut hugger desperate to keep him away from the actual legit threat to beat him. It's not others who are being obtuse, it's you bucko. Both Tom and Jon fought recently enough that a fight between them works perfectly well timing-wise. Period.

 

[Tornikidou]

Name a goat in other sports that has been caught cheating with peds


Hint: there isn’t

 

[markg171]

You're an absolute moron, got it. There are no "real belts" when the UFC can strip any champ, for any reason WHENEVER THEY WANT.

You're not a fan of the sport. You're a Jon Jones nut hugger desperate to keep him away from the actual legit threat to beat him. It's not others who are being obtuse, it's you bucko. Both Tom and Jon fought recently enough that a fight between them works perfectly well timing-wise. Period.

You actually can quite literally look at the rankings and see who is the real champ. It’s Jon with the C by his name, not Tom.

If Tom is the one who won’t fight a fight at all that isn’t coming, he’s the one who should be stripped as the champ who’s been out longer and refusing to defend again.

Not Jon

 

[koquerelle]

Tom who?

 

[mkess101]

You actually can quite literally look at the rankings and see who is the real champ. It’s Jon with the C by his name, not Tom.

If Tom is the one who won’t fight a fight at all that isn’t coming, he’s the one who should be stripped as the champ who’s been out longer and refusing to defend again.

Not Jon

"The rankings" mean shit. What was Rountree "ranked" when he got the title shot? Who is Tom not defending against? Do you have evidence he was offered a fight to defend his interim belt again? If you do, please post it. Otherwise shut the fuck up and continue eating paint chips.

 

[markg171]

"The rankings" mean shit. What was Rountree "ranked" when he got the title shot? Who is Tom not defending against? Do you have evidence he was offered a fight to defend his interim belt again? If you do, please post it. Otherwise shut the fuck up and continue eating paint chips.

You’re the one saying Tom fighting 5 months ago should be promoted over Jon fighting 1 month ago.

 

[mkess101]

You’re the one saying Tom fighting 5 months ago should be promoted over Jon fighting 1 month ago.

"Promoted"? I'm saying that you unite the belts. IDGAF who has them. If you want them to mean ANYTHING, you have the champ fight the interim champ. How are you too dumb to understand this?

 

[markg171]

"Promoted"? I'm saying that you unite the belts. IDGAF who has them. If you want them to mean ANYTHING, you have the champ fight the interim champ. How are you too dumb to understand this?

You’re the retard saying the interim who’s being out even longer than the divisional champ should become the champ despite that making zero sense.

We’d take y'all a lot more seriously if you weren’t so obviously lying about your motives.