POLL: Does Weili vs Valentina POLL: Decide the Real Female GOAT?

[JKS]

But a lot of people think she won. You don’t just act like that is not the reality of it just because the judges ruled otherwise.

LOL, that is exactly what you do in this case. Just as many think that Nunes won the fight too. Media scores had that fight 10 for Nunes and 10 for Shevchenko with 2 as a draw, so dead even.

You can't just say "well a lot thought Val won". So what? Lots thought that Nunes won. And like I said, media scores had it even. So it's not overhwhelming support for Val winning. It's even among fans and media. The judges had it a split decision too, so very close. But that is what counts in the end.

It was a very close fight, but Nunes won. No robbery here.

 

[Brood]

Should be?? Should be lol?? What are we just re-writing history. She lost a close fight, there is no should be.

It's 2-0 and it will always be 2-0 till the end of time.

Mayhaps, but ts asked about the real GOAT, not the bs decision GOAT.

 

[WOLVERINEKILLS]

Fans and media types larping as judges don’t really matter compared to the official result.

Most of the judges are incompetent and most fans and media could svore it better tbh.

 

[WOLVERINEKILLS]

LOL, that is exactly what you do in this case. Just as many think that Nunes won the fight too. Media scores had that fight 10 for Nunes and 10 for Shevchenko with 2 as a draw, so dead even.

You can't just say "well a lot thought Val won". So what? Lots thought that Nunes won. And like I said, media scores had it even. So it's not overhwhelming support for Val winning. It's even among fans and media. The judges had it a split decision too, so very close. But that is what counts in the end.

It was a very close fight, but Nunes won. No robbery here.

I disagree but to esch their own. It was a close fight.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Most of the judges are incompetent and most fans and media could svore it better tbh.

Then why not pay the $100 licensing fee and become an actual judge?

 

[WOLVERINEKILLS]

Then why not pay the $100 licensing fee and become an actual judge?

I might look into this but I am certain it becomes somewhat political at some point. And by political, I mean from within the athletic commissions and UFC, not national politics.

 

[JKS]

I disagree but to esch their own. It was a close fight.

It was a close fight, no one should be upset at the decision. In a close fight, someone has to lose. Like I said, it was by no means a robbery.

 

[JKS]

Mayhaps, but ts asked about the real GOAT, not the bs decision GOAT.

Sure, I don't even know what that's suppose to mean but okay

 

[xhaydenx]

Rose > Weili

This.

and then somehow it's Carla > Rose

 

[Simple Southerner]

Not quite—top 2 or 3 maybe. Let’s not rewrite history yet

 

[Mmmmmmma1234]

If Zhang wins imma call her the GOAT 7-2 in title fights. Fought and beat everyone at SW except Rose, and going up beating Valentina at Flyweight. SW/Flyweight 2 division championship >>> BW/FW 2 division championship.

Shevchenko not so much this is just another Flyweight title defense for her and while Zhang is a great name it's not much more prestigious than beating Manon or JJ.

Then we also have to see if Amanda can smoke Kayla in her comeback which adds to her legacy.

 

[El Fernas]

Fans and media types larping as judges don’t really matter compared to the official result.

I mean, we are discussing a very subjective title here... officially Matt Hamill beat Jon Jones, we all know he didnt.

 

[Vampire life]

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Alright Sherbums, I gotta ask—if Zhang Weili and Valentina Shevchenko ever fight, does that matchup finally settle who the real queen of women’s MMA is?

Everybody hands Amanda Nunes the GOAT title, and yeah, her résumé is crazy. Ronda, Cyborg, Holm, Valentina (barely). But if we’re being honest, skill for skill, I think Weili and Valentina might be operating on a higher level.

Valentina’s basically a machine. Her precision, timing, and IQ are unreal. When she’s on, it looks like she’s sparring. Then there’s Weili—she’s evolved into an absolute monster. She outclassed Lemos in every single department, outworked Suarez, and she’s developed elite wrestling and ground control to go with her striking. She’s fast, powerful, technical, and fights like every second matters.

And I’ll say this with confidence: Weili has faced tougher competition at 115 than Amanda did at 135 or 145. It’s just that her opponents—Lemos, Xiaonan, Suarez—don’t have the same “big name” status. But make no mistake, skill for skill, those girls are every bit as dangerous as anyone Amanda fought. The strawweight division is the most technically sound division in WMMA.

So what happens if Weili beats Valentina? Does she become the new GOAT? Or does Valentina take that crown if she wins? Because right now, it feels like Amanda has the résumé… but Weili and Valentina have the skill.

What do you Sherbums think?

I’m the 13%

 

[Vampire life]

Zhang getting head kicked into Bolivian ruined her goat status for me

 

[Kyojiro Kagenuma]

Esparza > Rose

It's a strange rock paper scissors game they've got going

 

[Kyojiro Kagenuma]

Weili lost twice to Rose and Valentina lost twice to Amanda Nunes.

 

[Hdfi]

If Zhang wins imma call her the GOAT 7-2 in title fights. Fought and beat everyone at SW except Rose, and going up beating Valentina at Flyweight. SW/Flyweight 2 division championship >>> BW/FW 2 division championship.

Shevchenko not so much this is just another Flyweight title defense for her and while Zhang is a great name it's not much more prestigious than beating Manon or JJ.

Then we also have to see if Amanda can smoke Kayla in her comeback which adds to her legacy.

Amanda coming back is the worst career decision I've ever seen. She'll lose to Kayla and lose her GOAT status forever.

 

[Broke Lester]

WMMA Goat is still Cyborg for me. Sure, she lost to Amanda after getting caught early, but she never had the chance to avenge the loss.

One of the greatest injustices in the UFC.

 

[WOLVERINEKILLS]

It was a close fight, no one should be upset at the decision. In a close fight, someone has to lose. Like I said, it was by no means a robbery.

So you would feel the same way if the judges declared Val won?

 

[Gamer2k4]

Valentina is still 0-2 against Amanda and Willy Jong is 0-2 against Rose.

And Nunes lost to Zingano who lost to Rousey who lost to Nunes. Zhang lost to Namajunas who lost to Esparaza who lost to Zhang.

We can do MMA Math all day long and it won't change anything. Greatness doesn't mean you never lost, but that your body of work, your skills, and your legacy all transcend those losses.