Kanye West: "Slavery for 400 years?.....400 years!!!!!...That sounds like a choice!"

How do you get the word outrage from anything I said? This is what I mean. There is nothing outrageous about the language used in the article either. It quoted John Legend saying he wished Kanye would reconsider, and another guy who said he was boycotting his music. They call that voting with your wallet where I am from. And you said, "I actually agree with the article's conclusion and its treatment of the subject." So in what way can it be described as "the Left" taking it hard? Ridiculous. If you aren't trolling, it's something else that's wrong with you, for sure. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt but what I'm not giving is the tiniest shit about what Kanye West thinks.

1. You managed to skip the featured quote of the article, wherein Kanye is compared directly to Ezra Pound. That is outrageous.
2. The article is an attempt to temper an overreaction from what I can see. So I agree with it. But the very fact that whether or not Kanye is akin to Ezra Pound is a question that needs to be grappled with demonstrates that the New Republic (center left imo) feels there is an overreaction on the left.
3. It's a good article. I think people should read it and can learn from it.
 
http://www.discoveringbristol.org.u...aved-people/enslaved-africans/africa-slavery/

There was a difference between slavery as practiced in the U.S. compared to slavery as practiced elsewhere. Whether one was better or worse than the other is something you can debate but there were differences which would preclude the assumption that the African based sellers were cognizant of the exact circumstances into which they were selling slaves.

The idea that the people selling the slaves give any kind of fuck about their welfare after the transaction is completed is absurd. What is your contention, that the average African ruler would've stopped selling them if he'd have had 1st hand experience of a new world plantation...Come on, you know how stupid that is. Like Kanye said, Atlantic slave trade (also LOL that we just refer to this one instance as 'slavery' BTW like it's the only time it happened) went on 300 odd years. You think no news filtered back in that time about how slaves were being treated in the Americas? It did and African rulers KEPT selling them because they gave zero fucks.

In fact, who was it that actually stopped the Atlantic slave trade? The British. Africans certainly didn't want to stop such a lucrative trade and there was fierce opposition to the British doing it from African and Arab leaders. The fact that you know all this anyway and continue to persist with your 'black people's slavery was worse than other people's slavery' is what I mean by this weird sadistic fetish. I don't think it's exclusive to black Americans BTW, I have Irish family and see the exact same thing from them, almost their entire identity is comprised of how badly they got fucked by someone else.
 
Black people just love to play the victim/racism card any chance they get. Its quite pathetic to me. Also, they are not hesitant to put black man/woman in their profile. I don't see any while people putting proud white woman in their description or have clothing likes with those prints.
 
1. You managed to skip the featured quote of the article, wherein Kanye is compared directly to Ezra Pound. That is outrageous.
2. The article is an attempt to temper an overreaction from what I can see. So I agree with it. But the very fact that whether or not Kanye is akin to Ezra Pound is a question that needs to be grappled with demonstrates that the New Republic (center left imo) feels there is an overreaction on the left.
3. It's a good article. I think people should read it and can learn from it.
Nice dodge. In what way have I given you the impression that I am outraged by any aspect of this discussion?

I say I have done no such thing; I submit that most normal people are just shaking their heads and moving on, and the odd person here or there is over-reacting via Twitter. Yet every Trump supporter ITT is trying to whip this up into some major meltdown by "the Left", as you yourself are doing. It's dumb.
 
Is it really true trumps favor numbers with African American have doubled since Kayne came out?
 
Black people just love to play the victim/racism card any chance they get. Its quite pathetic to me. Also, they are not hesitant to put black man/woman in their profile. I don't see any while people putting proud white woman in their description or have clothing likes with those prints.

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It's crazy to think though, the USA has had slavery for the largest part of its existence.

agreed, and I think using the term slave labor camps is better than just slavery, as it accurately depicts what it was.
 
Why did those slaves in Rome allow the Romans to enslave them and make them fight to death for entertainment????? For hundreds of years!!?!?!?!?

Sounds like a choice to me!!!!! If Spartacus could rebel why didnt they ALL rebel!!!!

Sounds like those pussies made a choice!!!
 
Now Kanye West is tweeting fake quotes from Harriet Tubman. Lol. Next thing you know he'll have a Sherdog account and he'll be in the meme thread.

Make an absurd comment about slavery, back it up with a fake Harriet Tubman quote. Lol. This is too hilarious, what a fool.

For the thousandth time, this is why you guys who post fake shit need to get a grip. People actually believe the fake stuff you share.
 
Why did those slaves in Rome allow the Romans to enslave them and make them fight to death for entertainment????? For hundreds of years!!?!?!?!?

Sounds like a choice to me!!!!! If Spartacus could rebel why didnt they ALL rebel!!!!

Sounds like those pussies made a choice!!!
Many did rebel. Many ran away. Many chose death. What is your point?
 
Now Kanye West is tweeting fake quotes from Harriet Tubman. Lol..
He acknowledged the error and deleted it. Those who believe in their moral superiority apparently forget what it is to make mistakes.
 

@1:14 is when he says the comment.

LMFAO.

Other than that, I kind of understand what he is trying to say....He isn't just black, he represents various things...I get that.

Where is the full clip of part 1 and 2 or the videos?

He dropped some truth bombs and those truth bombs are HARD to swallow for some.

I liked his idea about feeedom to think
 
He acknowledged the error and deleted it. Those who believe in their moral superiority apparently forget what it is to make mistakes.

Oh yeah, just Tweeting out propaganda to 28 million people. No need to check your facts, just pull something off a forum somewhere and see how it goes. Lol.
 
I'm guessing the African slave quarters were, and are, more revolting than most of the early American slave quarters. I'm not sure, but I can imagine.


I really don't know what to say about "The African slave traders really didn't know what they were selling the slaves into" statement. I kind of want to laugh a little, but then it's more "pop-sociology is faker than astrology" sadness.

The disregard for the lives of prisoners enslaved by rival tribes could not be surpassed. A (low) baseline value for life was already part of what made Europeans organized and strong enough as a group to spread across the globe to establish infrastructure. This is the opposite of the b.s. somebody will try to teach you, or what the media will say, but we know.. Those native tribes and Africans would have wiped out more people that looked like them than Europeans did, if they had the means. It's still there, in places like Detroit and across America, "black" folks not valuing each others lives when it really counts.

In the middle east you have videos of women letting Africans fall out of windows and laughing. Do white people treat their house cleaners like that? Whites are not the cruelest. Sorry. We are just organized enough when it comes down to business to handle big projects.
lol yeah its like some kids parents who sell their kid on the black market and then saying " Well how was I supposed to know he'd be fucked in the ass?" They werent aware because they didnt care. period.
 
I think black people already have this perspective. It's taught in their homes. It's the perspective that led to multiple attempts to end the system and the Civil Rights Act. It's why we are proactive about those things already.

I definitely don't think most blacks have been taught this as evidence by the reaction to Kanye's comments. Black America reacted like Dr. King just got shot. From my experience most black Americans are taught that we were, and still are, helpless victims who were, and still are, trapped in an oppressive system ran by white people. And the only way out of it is through the benevolence of and communion with white people. But at the same time were taught that they are evil and won't ever not be racist.

I would argue that perspective is one of submission and tokanism...not freedom, not liberty, and not dignity. We were taught that people who endured their life, sang songs to cope, and watched their wives and children raped and murdered while living their whole lives in physical bondage...we consider them to be noble and dignified. In other cultures and from other perspectives those kinds of people would be considered shameful cowards. And likewise, people today who simply "endure" a life of hardship, sing songs to cope, and watch our baby mothers and children live in poverty and depression while living their whole lives in mental bondage are considered shameful cowards from some perspectives.

What if that was our perspective? What if we passed that perspective to our children? I would argue if we did that then it wouldn't take many generations before African Americans and African American cultures are prospering as well as or beyond all other groups.

You're suggesting the years and years of fighting for equal rights demonstrates a lack of resolve? Or that the constant push for equal treatment demonstrates a lack of resolve? Considering that the black populace in this country started with nothing, yet has pushed their way into equal rights and continues to fight for those things, I guess I'm not sure what you're think represents "resolve". Lawyers, doctors, scientists, athletes, astronauts, etc. These are not positive things to you?

Fighting for equal rights? No.

Fighting for equal treatment as in letting us into white restaurants, white schools, demanding quotas, censored speech, ect...basically forcing others to accept us, include us, share with us, and make us feel not so bad? Well that does show resolve but its not the resolve to be free, independent, dignified, and respected...its a resolve to never be free, never be independent, and never to be seen as legit equals.
 
lol yeah its like some kids parents who sell their kid on the black market and then saying " Well how was I supposed to know he'd be fucked in the ass?" They werent aware because they didnt care. period.
I imagine they figured it would be worse, and ifthey could have seen 350 years in the future they might have sent some of their own family
 
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