Kanye West: "Slavery for 400 years?.....400 years!!!!!...That sounds like a choice!"

I don't recall saying entirely ignorant of.

I'm sorry. You said they didn't know what was going to happen to the slaves they sold.
What did you mean by that?

However, I am curious about this idea that African rulers sent their children to the Americas to be educated. I've never heard that and can't seem to source it.

I'm sure you haven't. It would be quite the claim, but it's not one I made.
I said that they sent their kids to be educated abroad.
Education may have been sought in Europe, but it was often the slave routes that were traveled to get there and the slave ships that were used.

To be honest, it seems that one has to have a pretty low opinion of Africans in order to make the case that "oh, they just didn't know."

Additionally, I never said benign. I said different and I specified the types of differences.

I didn't say you said benign. I said "benign by comparison"
The differences you described would make the African practice of slavery benign by comparison to the barbarity that went on in the States. But you describe differences in the way that some African cultures treated their slaves.

You said that their kids weren't born into slavery, or that there were legitimate paths out of slavery or that people were only enslaved because they lost a battle or to pay off a debt, and while that's all true to a certain extent, it seems its being discussed as though some umbrella set of conditions could be said to be true of slavery in Africa as a whole, which is obvious nonsense.
For this to gel with the idea that "slavery was practised differently in the States and so African leaders didn't know how slaves were treated" you'd almost have to make the assumption that the African states who treated their slaves the most humanely were also the African states who most readily sold them to foreign powers.

Yes, sometimes slaves were soldiers of the enemy that were taken in battle, but sometimes the battles were fought for the express purpose of taking slaves.
Sure, not all slaves in Africa were born into slavery, but in some African cultures, slavery was indeed hereditary.
The descendants of the Ashanti have used this talking point ("but kids their children were born free") in their defense of their historical practice of slavery, but they rarely mention that slaves were often sacrificed as a part of their masters' funeral ceremonies because, of course, slaves were expected to follow their masters into the afterlife.
Hard to work your way out of slavery, when you're expected to die as a part of the position.
The Kingdom of Dahomey is another example of a culture that saw the sacrifice of slaves as acceptable - to the tune of hundreds of slaves sacrificed as a part of an annual ceremony.
Benin too, was pretty grim in their steadfast attachment to the practices of slavery and human sacrifice that it was destroyed by the British in its misguided attempt to preserve the traditions.

Slavery in Africa could be just as brutal (if not more so) as the institution in America. No doubt, it could also be a lot less so and there was resistance to it - the Mossi Empire, for example (well, for a while at least - they did eventually join the Atlantic slave trade)
 
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Pretty crazy when you compare Kanye to Donald Glover right now, but it's kind of sad seeing Kanye spiral for years now. He's always been out there but his breakdown in 2016 was pretty telling of something being wrong.

Was cool to see Kanye like the sketch on SNL though. As well as retweeting This is America.

Loved this sketch.
 
Kanye is angling for a cabinet position. Crazy thing is, no matter what position, he still wouldn´t be the least qualified member of the admin.
 
If everyone just stops talking about Kanye he'll go away. I promise.


No way. I was in complete meh by the music of his I heard but Kane as a pseudo intellectual and political commentator? Now, that is his true calling.
 
Kanye West is a fuckin retard, it's hilarious how the right embraces this idiot just because he loves Trump
My Facebook is full of right wing people and no one is embracing Kanye. Lol.

There is some irony in the fact that people on the left are willing to completely denounce Kanye as a person all of a sudden, because of his political belief, like he wasn’t always crazy.

There is a SJW type girl I know who recently posted how she thinks Kanye lost his mind over his mom dying and that’s why now he has this mental illness. The man has said absurd shit for years and you hear nothing from these people, but god forbid he endorse a right wing president and now we “always knew he had mental problems”.

I can promise you if Kanye endorsed Hilary instead there would be no such talk. That said, I’m just pointing out the irony. I’m neither a trump fan or a Kanye fan.
 
My Facebook is full of right wing people and no one is embracing Kanye. Lol.

There is some irony in the fact that people on the left are willing to completely denounce Kanye as a person all of a sudden, because of his political belief, like he wasn’t always crazy.

There is a SJW type girl I know who recently posted how she thinks Kanye lost his mind over his mom dying and that’s why now he has this mental illness. The man has said absurd shit for years and you hear nothing from these people, but god forbid he endorse a right wing president and now we “always knew he had mental problems”.

I can promise you if Kanye endorsed Hilary instead there would be no such talk. That said, I’m just pointing out the irony. I’m neither a trump fan or a Kanye fan.
I have a gay buddy who was all about Eminem when he did his terrible trump rap

So I just responded with some of his lyrics “so gay I can’t say it with a straight face looking boy” and he lost his shit, until he googled it
 
I have a gay buddy who was all about Eminem when he did his terrible trump rap

So I just responded with some of his lyrics “so gay I can’t say it with a straight face looking boy” and he lost his shit, until he googled it
Lol. That's hilarious.

I remember back in the day Eminem would get hammered by the media for homophobic implications. IIRC it is part of the reason he brought on Elton John to perform the song Stan with him.
 
Lol. That's hilarious.

I remember back in the day Eminem would get hammered by the media for homophobic implications. IIRC it is part of the reason he brought on Elton John to perform the song Stan with him.
The trump rap was fucking awful. Far more offensive than any homophobia he’s spit
 
Funny to watch the Uncle Tom losing his shit when Kanye mentioned black on black crime
 
My Facebook is full of right wing people and no one is embracing Kanye. Lol.

There is some irony in the fact that people on the left are willing to completely denounce Kanye as a person all of a sudden, because of his political belief, like he wasn’t always crazy.

There is a SJW type girl I know who recently posted how she thinks Kanye lost his mind over his mom dying and that’s why now he has this mental illness. The man has said absurd shit for years and you hear nothing from these people, but god forbid he endorse a right wing president and now we “always knew he had mental problems”.

I can promise you if Kanye endorsed Hilary instead there would be no such talk. That said, I’m just pointing out the irony. I’m neither a trump fan or a Kanye fan.
Kanye went crazy years ago and was hospitalized for 'exhaustion' everyone was talking about it and said he went crazy. The chick that said he is out of his mind is right and I don't like Trump or Kanye
 
My Facebook is full of right wing people and no one is embracing Kanye. Lol.

There is some irony in the fact that people on the left are willing to completely denounce Kanye as a person all of a sudden, because of his political belief, like he wasn’t always crazy.

There is a SJW type girl I know who recently posted how she thinks Kanye lost his mind over his mom dying and that’s why now he has this mental illness. The man has said absurd shit for years and you hear nothing from these people, but god forbid he endorse a right wing president and now we “always knew he had mental problems”.

I can promise you if Kanye endorsed Hilary instead there would be no such talk. That said, I’m just pointing out the irony. I’m neither a trump fan or a Kanye fan.

Well as a Kanye fan, yeah dude people have been saying he lost it over his mom dying for a long time now.

Just Google any Kanye news from around 2016 when he went off his meds and thought the doctors were going to kill him.
 
By definition, slavery cannot be a choice. It is always involuntary, at least. Maybe a choice in the sense that you either choose slavery or death, but that doesn't really qualify as a real choice.

Slavery isn't always involuntary. Why this marxist victim mongering?
 
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