Kanye West: "Slavery for 400 years?.....400 years!!!!!...That sounds like a choice!"

S-dot said:
I don’t agree with pretty much anything he’s been saying lately(or ever), and I think he has a dangerous messiah complex, but it’s crazy to me that the so much of the outrage against what he’s done this past week is in the context of him being black. There’s been people who actually are poking holes in what he’s said but I’ve come across a lot more who are really mad at him for saying those things while being black.

It’s not just liberals though, it’s his own community. Daz Dillinger put out a video saying the crips should “bang on him” when they see him. He may be physically harmed over going against the grain with a political opinion. It’s absurd, but it is the time of trump so nothings surprising anymore.
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This isn't really about Trump. Black conservatives (not saying he is one) have been demonized relentlessly for decades. Are you familiar with Bret Weinstein? On his podcast with Joe Rogan he admitted to believing most of his life that black conservatives are deeply confused and beneath him. I believe this is the standard perspective for most liberals. This is why they dehumanize black people that don't think like them, rather than debate them. This is why Malcolm X saw through the BS when he stated that liberals are the most dangerous threat to the black man.
 
it is weird that he went from george bush hates black people to MAGA.
 
silus_2000 said:
Selling out white liberals apparently equals selling out black folks. This is next level brainwashing shit right here. This is why liberals can be so vile and disgusting. No respect for the individual thoughts of black folks. It's ownership and absolute conformity, or else.
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I'm just being a freethinker, bruh.

Apparently if you call yourself a "freethinker" it's ok to say offensive things. According to Kanye.

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FinalFight said:
I'm just being a freethinker, bruh.

Apparently if you call yourself a "freethinker" it's ok to say offensive things. According to Kanye.

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Apparently when you falter in a debate you try to save face with some cheap, meaningless reply.
 
I've always thought Kanye was a great barometer for everything that's wrong with the world.
 
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So.... One assumes that in this particular instance, black Americans are supposed to be a monolith?
 
silus_2000 said:
That being your barometer is what's wrong in the world.
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No, you're completely wrong. That's why these threads about celebrities (even b-grade celebrities or youtube stars) are vital to political discussion.
 
Ruprecht said:
No, you're completely wrong. That's why these threads about celebrities (even b-grade celebrities or youtube stars) are vital to political discussion.
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You're going places in life.
 
panamaican said:
They were too busy fighting off death from diseases they'd never encountered.

But the Native Americans did have slavery prior to European arrival, as did Africans. I hate this conversation because the issue with those examples of slavery vs. what took place in the U.S. is about the actual details of how slavery was practiced. You might enslave a man but his kids weren't born into slavery. There were legitimate paths out of slavery that the slave could exercise. It was slavery based on skin color, whereas other groups had slavery as a result of losing a battle or some kind of debt obligation. A variety of other details that people dismiss when they want to draw a false equivalency between what was happening in the U.S. vs elsewhere.
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Hey, I didn't talk about the stuff you're saying.
My point is just that the atlantic slave trade had Africans capturing slaves and selling them to Europeans in exchange for guns and booze mostly. They knew pretty well what was going to happen with these slaves. Amerindians, not just in the US, but everywhere in the Americas usually didn't agree with this and actively fought to release other amerindians.


Anyway, there were some ways out of slavery in the USA as can be seen from the so called free people of color that existed back in the day and there was the kind of chattel slavery you're talking about in Africa too, pygmies for example were and are enslaved just for being small and their children are also born into slavery.
 
Cuauhtemoc said:
Hey, I didn't talk about the stuff you're saying.
My point is just that the atlantic slave trade had Africans capturing slaves and selling them to Europeans in exchange for guns and booze mostly. They knew pretty well what was going to happen with these slaves. Amerindians, not just in the US, but everywhere in the Americas usually didn't agree with this and actively fought to release other amerindians.


Anyway, there were some ways out of slavery in the USA as can be seen from the so called free people of color that existed back in the day and there was the kind of chattel slavery you're talking about in Africa too, pygmies for example were and are enslaved just for being small and their children are also born into slavery.
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Actually my point is that they didn't know what was going to happen to the slaves they sold because slavery as practiced in those cultures did not resemble slavery as it was practiced in the Americas.
 
He's trolled beautifully lately but I think he's just come out with the wrong comment at the wrong time with this one. He'll simmer down slightly and go back at it soon.

All about his own promotion. Too many people getting invested in it.
 
Jimmy Jazz said:
native americans didnt have an organized state or army behind them. They were small tribes. Also, African Americans were enslaved for over a hundred years. They had plenty of time to get settled and if given the inclination, fight back. Haitians did.
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Haitans situation is entirely different which still took over 300 years. For one America is MUCH bigger making it far more difficult to organize sustained rebellions.
 
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RyanRAW said:
Haitans situation is entirely different. For one America is MUCH bigger making it far more difficult to organize sustained rebellions.
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Also, the overall ratio of enslaved to enslavers was much more to the advantage of Haitian slaves than American ones. American slaves might have outnumbered their owners, but they didn't outnumber the general population who supported slavery, especially in the South.

Per my recollection, the Haitian slaves outnumbered the entire non-slave population, not just the slave owners. So they had a numerical advantage from which to counter the technological disadvantage.
 
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