International Joe Biden is expected to shift back to a more "conventional" US stance and re-engage with Iran

[MeatheadMike]

nothing better than trying to be buddy buddy with people who want you dead

 

[grimballer]

Wanna see all the goods he has for China

 

[12ga.]

I think so. The whole Islamic threat is totally exaggerated compared to real existential threats. Like Russia, China, and others who can kill billions in 30 seconds and can threaten our global hegemony in international law - trade - dollar - IP and patent understanding etc. I look forward to Bidens National Security team who does not have the Christian Zionists aboard like Trumps

Thats about the only thing I look forward to with Biden/Harris.

 

[avenue94]

Now do under Obama

Yeah, vastly superior handling of Iran. Fucked up in Syria, but I struggle to see Trump ha ing handled Syria better at that time given how many screw ups he's made in easier situations.

 

[TeTe]

Can we finally get an isolationist in the White House? Christ, I'm sick of us wasting money and resources in the Middle East.

 

[ocfightfan]

Trumps "impulses" made him the greatest peacemaker President this world has ever seen. And as for the so called "conventional" stance I'm not sure what that is supposed to mean since we have had an antagonistic stance toward them since the late 70s with lots of sanctions. I'm guessing the goal posts have moved here and Obamas stupidity is now what passes as a conventional US stance on Iran.

 

[ultramanhyata]

Trump's impulsive policies brought peace across the region.

Comedy gold. Keep it up.

 

[Chinballs]

He made peace between North and South Korea.

 

[Fanu]

Are you kidding? When was the last time the ME was this peaceful for 4 years?

Certainly not under Obama

Did you forget when Trump ordered this:

https://apnews.com/article/iran-ira...ghdad-tehran-0f5efb8f2c00b538dea7ab44acc2f267

and when he wrote this:

Title of this thread is fucking retarded since Trump was pretty clear in his hate of Iran. Biden will just continue where Trump left off.

 

[bobgeese]

Did you forget when Trump ordered this:
https://apnews.com/article/iran-ira...ghdad-tehran-0f5efb8f2c00b538dea7ab44acc2f267

Title of this thread is fucking retarded since Trump was pretty clear in his hate of Iran. Biden will just continue where Trump left off.

Of course not, why do you think the ME behaved the last 4 years?

 

[Fanu]

Of course not, why do you think the ME behaved the last 4 years?

Are you smoking crack? By that logic ME will behave for 4 more years with Biden having the same policy towards Iran as Trump.

And last time I checked, ME was still a cesspool of violence - Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Turkey are still war mongering shitholes.

+ Trump had no problems selling arms to shithole Saudi Arabia which keeps bombing Yemen into the stone age.

 

[Fluffernutter]

Didn't Iran send out spam emails trying to create fear in voters a week before the election?

Isn't that election interference?

Why are they being rewarded for election interference?

 

[Gunny]

lol at "conventional"

They almost came right out and called Biden’s foreign policy predictable. And somehow, in progressives minds, that a good thing.

 

[bobgeese]

Are you smoking crack? By that logic ME will behave for 4 more years with Biden having the same policy towards Iran as Trump.

And last time I checked, ME was still a cesspool of violence - Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Turkey are still war mongering shitholes.

+ Trump had no problems selling arms to shithole Saudi Arabia which keeps bombing Yemen into the stone age.

Of Course it’s a cesspool of violence. The difference is, during the Obama administration it was spilling over into Europe and elsewhere. At one point there was a major terrorist attack once every three weeks.


The middle east only understands force, Trump showed them, they coward.

 

[Saaciid]

Of Course it’s a cesspool of violence. The difference is, during the Obama administration it was spilling over into Europe and elsewhere. At one point there was a major terrorist attack once every three weeks.


The middle east only understands force, Trump showed them, they coward.

Whoever is in the White House will always suck up to Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar and other Gulf Arab nations those real terror sponsors. Iran is not a terror sponsor and the White House once again will only bully Iran while sucking up to Saudi Arabia and this turn China as well.

 

[boxingskills]

Ah yes, can’t wait to ship them pallets of cash again!!!

10% to the big guy.

 

[toutadixballes]

Are you kidding? When was the last time the ME was this peaceful for 4 years?

Certainly not under Obama

Wasn't peaceful at all, you just don't care about brown civilians dying.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2...rump-drone-strikes-far-exceed-obama-s-numbers

 

[Islam Imamate]

lol at "conventional"

You are right to scoff at the idea that that would be "conventional", Obama was the one being unconventional by reaching out to Iran while Trump is the one who took the conventional stance of demonizing them at every turn and assassinating their key figures. Trump did escalate much further than most presidents by killing Soleimaini but again that's a difference in degree, not kind

They almost came right out and called Biden’s foreign policy predictable. And somehow, in progressives minds, that a good thing.

Uh yes, not making massive decisions on a whim like Trump did is kind of a good thing.

Problem with re-engaging Iran is that it provokes Israel and Saudi Arabia. Justifiably or not, they begin to feel prompted to act individually against Iran's interests, which ultimately causes more damage to the region's stability, than by having the United States absorb all the impact of such decisions.

The U.S. ought to have some sort of a plan in place to avoid the adverse consequences of Israeli/Saudi insecurity.

Not apologizing for those states or their mind-set, but it's just a matter of fact that they'll take matters into their own hands, if America starts making deals with Iran. Attempts at sabotage, funding insurrections, and taking the other state's citizens as hostages, will be inevitable. Anything to gain an advantage in a situation which is no longer clearly a matter of "Israel/Saudis good, Iran bad".

They already started doing that, hence the peace deals and normalizing of relations. A lot of that started under Obama. I'm sure they enjoyed Trump winding the clock back but it seems like they're hedging their bets and acting as if another Obama is right around the corner and based off this story Biden could very well be like that.

I think we're betting off playing off both sides against each other rather than merely giving carte blanche to the Israel/GCC/Egypt coalition.

 

[toutadixballes]

The middle east only understands force, Trump showed them, they coward.

People like you supported irak invasion and created isis.

Nobody cowards, dumbass, you just created the new generation of terrorists, you just don't know it yet.
Keep thinking like the fake alpha male you pretend you are "the middle east only understand force", it will come back to kick you in the ass like every time.

 

[Peli]

nothing better than trying to be buddy buddy with people who want you dead

It's called politics for a reason