Social ICE/deportation protests and riots megathread

You'll notice nobody on the left will touch this. It's been posted a few times. It's obvious they just want to put their fingers in their ears and still believe the people who support Trump are fringe cultists, rather than face the fact that Trump won the popular vote by over 2 million votes and sweeping every swing state.
this is another 80/20 issue that democrats are on the wrong side of.
 
Can you link one such rant?
See, this is the problem. The moderates like @irish_thug don't denounce or help us against the extremists. They're silent despite knowing their machinations. They silently support them despite not participating. When will the moderates denounce the extremists in their ranks? Until then I can't vote for @irish_thug in good conscience.
Don't @ me filthy centrist.
Enlightened centrism is an intellectually hollow and lazy commitment to disagree with both sides and is usually accompanied by a smug insinuation that one is above the fray. I'll take a principled right winger any day of the week over some centrist dope.
Faux-centrists stick together, their worldview is predicated on being right by default because they are on "the center"

Yeah sure the "centrist" might be comparing entire populations of people to weeds and calling back to the Spanish Inquisition but the other side are being mean so there's blame to go around.

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I'm really not going to spend extended time going through your search history to prove to you what you and I both know you think about moderates. It's fine though.
 
Why would I care what they think about moderates? There is no way you are trying to suggest Democrats as a whole are telling moderates to go fuck themselves because of 3 posters on sherdog? I'm asking you to show me prominent political figures in the Democratic party telling moderates to go fuck themselves, I'm guessing you can't do that?
It's not just the 3 posters on Sherdog. There's more. It's a disdain that stretches across multiple platforms and rather common. I was giving an example, but of course, you aren't interested in hearing it.

You probably don't pay attention to the attacks on independents that come from the left, but I do. You don't have to believe me.
 
See, this is the problem. The moderates like @irish_thug don't denounce or help us against the extremists. They're silent despite knowing their machinations. They silently support them despite not participating. When will the moderates denounce the extremists in their ranks? Until then I can't vote for @irish_thug in good conscience.
Don't @ me filthy centrist.
Enlightened centrism is an intellectually hollow and lazy commitment to disagree with both sides and is usually accompanied by a smug insinuation that one is above the fray. I'll take a principled right winger any day of the week over some centrist dope.
Faux-centrists stick together, their worldview is predicated on being right by default because they are on "the center"

Yeah sure the "centrist" might be comparing entire populations of people to weeds and calling back to the Spanish Inquisition but the other side are being mean so there's blame to go around.

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Why don't you link these supposed posts of mine instead of quoting them like this? That way I and others can actually read through the context they're in. The first one looks to be a facetious post made in a POTWR thread but hard to know without the link to follow through on.
I'm really not going to spend extended time going through your search history to prove to you what you and I both know you think about moderates. It's fine though.
I don't think asking you to prove your assertion is asking a lot. If you're going to make claims about me be ready to back them up or don't make them at all.
 
Brother you could watch streams for the past 3 days, and see 95% of the protestors, are indeed PEACEFULLY protesting. If you are mad or tired of people protesting what they believe in, you might be living in the wrong Country. Are you one of the people that are OK with protesting when it fits your agenda, and against it when it doesn't?
It could even be 99% peaceful like Jan 6th. That’s quite telling, we need more Orwell wording . You know school shooters live mostly peaceful lives. So you’re cool with people block trafficking, looting and interfering in investigations .
 
Why don't you link these supposed posts of mine instead of quoting them like this? That way I and others can actually read through the context they're in. The first one looks to be a facetious post made in a POTWR thread but hard to know without the link to follow through on.

I don't think asking you to prove your assertion is asking a lot. If you're going to make claims about me be ready to back them up or don't make them at all.
Fair. I was hesitant on asking you to own up to your beliefs, but I thought you'd have enough integrity to do so. There are a few posts I do have in mind, but I'm not certain on the exact verbiage you used which would make it kind of hard to search. You have 60,000 posts. Not an easy task. I'm not well versed on going through people's search histories to begin with.

But since were here, correct me. What are your opinions on independents and moderates?

@Mr Holmes am I off base here?
 
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Fair. I was hesitant on asking you to own up to your beliefs, but I thought you'd have enough integrity to do so.
I do have integrity, I'm happy to own any of my beliefs and I've owned up to many controversial ones.
There are a few posts I do have in mind, but I'm not certain on the exact verbiage you used which would make it kind of hard to search. You have 60,000 posts. Not an easy task. I'm not well versed on going through people's search histories to begin with.
But somehow you got those quotes right? Can't you just link those posts so I can see the wider context? I found the one that mentions Irish_thug and as I suspected it was a facetious post in a POTWR thread. You have the gall to accuse me of lacking integrity when you took one of my posts out of context? And not only that but its a post from roughly eight years ago? Unbelievable.

The 2nd one, this one:
Don't @ me filthy centrist.
is also a facetious post from a meme thread. To turn your own words against you, I thought you had integrity but you're scummier than I realized. No wonder you didn't link them.
But since were here, correct me. What are your opinions on independents and moderates?
My gripe has always been against what I call faux-centrists, people who claim to be centrist while advocating for staunchly right wing views who hide behind a few perfunctory left leaning takes that they don't really care much about. These people then criticize anyone to the left of them as too extreme by appealing to the fact that they as centrists are the arbiters of who is and isn't extreme.
 
I do have integrity, I'm happy to own any of my beliefs and I've owned up to many controversial ones.

But somehow you got those quotes right? Can't you just link those posts so I can see the wider context? I found the one that mentions Irish_thug and as I suspected it was a facetious post in a POTWR thread. You have the gall to accuse me of lacking integrity when you took one of my posts out of context? And not only that but its a post from roughly eight years ago? Unbelievable.

The 2nd one, this one:

is also a facetious post from a meme thread. To turn your own words against you, I thought you had integrity but you're scummier than I realized. No wonder you didn't link them.

My gripe has always been against what I call faux-centrists, people who claim to be centrist while advocating for staunchly right wing views who hide behind a few perfunctory left leaning takes that they don't really care much about. These people then criticize anyone to the left of them as too extreme by appealing to the fact that they as centrists are the arbiters of who is and isn't extreme.
I addressed this. I'm not well versed on going through peoples histories, and without knowing specific verbiage I cannot.

But thank you for your admission you do have gripes because it's very evident at times. I don't know why we had to go through a few posts with you denying it.
 
Fair. I was hesitant on asking you to own up to your beliefs, but I thought you'd have enough integrity to do so. There are a few posts I do have in mind, but I'm not certain on the exact verbiage you used which would make it kind of hard to search. You have 60,000 posts. Not an easy task. I'm not well versed on going through people's search histories to begin with.

But since were here, correct me. What are your opinions on independents and moderates?

The dude changes his beliefs and opinions as fast as smartphone updates get pushed. He probably legit forgot, or is that full of it .

Theres a lot, especially when Bald1 was bodying him often.




 
I addressed this. I'm not well versed on going through peoples histories, and without knowing specific verbiage I cannot.
So how did you find those posts? And did you not pay any attention at all the the context of the exchange and of the thread? Isn't it more likely that you're grasping for straws and cited some facetious posts without linking them to make your case thinking no one would follow up and call you out on your misrepresentation?
But thank you for your admission you do have gripes because it's very evident at times. I don't know why we had to go through a few posts with you denying it.
My gripe is with people who pretend to be moderate but are actually right wing and use their suppose status as a moderate to arbitrate who is and isn't radical.
 
I addressed this. I'm not well versed on going through peoples histories, and without knowing specific verbiage I cannot.

But thank you for your admission you do have gripes because it's very evident at times. I don't know why we had to go through a few posts with you denying it.

This is embarassing, dude. Stop already. you've been made to look a fool, no need to push any further.
 
This is embarassing, dude. Stop already. you've been made to look a fool, no need to push any further.
Is it your perception I attacked him in some way? It wasn't. That gentleman has made it pretty clear he has disdain for centrists. I don't need to prove to him what his own problems are with them. I find him to be one of the most intelligent lefties here.

If you would like to spend your day going through 60,000 posts looking for specific ones, by all means go ahead. I don't have the willpower to do so. I thought he'd actually own it, genuinely.
 
The dude changes his beliefs and opinions as fast as smartphone updates get pushed. He probably legit forgot, or is that full of it .

Theres a lot, especially when Bald1 was bodying him often.




Probably a misunderstanding and facetiousness.
 
Is it your perception I attacked him in some way? It wasn't. That gentleman has made it pretty clear he has disdain for centrists. I don't need to prove to him what his own problems are with them.

If you would like to spend your day going through 60,000 posts looking for specific ones, by all means go ahead. I don't have the willpower to do so. I thought he'd actually own it, genuinely.

I wouldn't call it an attack, but clipping a quote from an obvious satire thread is pretty low brow stuff, mate.

And, I haven't sat down with him and really hashed out his political stance, but having been a semi-active reader in the WR for the past year or so, it seems pretty clear to me that he isn't an extremist left wing nutjob who disowns moderates. I think suggesting this is also disingenuous.

but, maybe I'm wrong - I'd be open to seeing any evidence that he does hold these beliefs - just, make sure you link the thread, so we know it isn't something said in jest :D
 
Is it your perception I attacked him in some way? It wasn't. That gentleman has made it pretty clear he has disdain for centrists. I don't need to prove to him what his own problems are with them. I find him to be one of the most intelligent lefties here.
Now you guys are playing fast and loose with your terms. You originally asked me about moderates, not centrists. A moderate is not necessarily a centrist, you can be a right or left leaning moderate and you can be a centrist who has radical views.
Probably a misunderstanding and facetiousness.
Somehow he was able to link those posts, why couldn't you? And why did you take my posts out of context? Isn't that kind of a scummy thing to do? If it was an error don't you think you should apologize?
 
I wouldn't call it an attack, but clipping a quote from an obvious satire thread is pretty low brow stuff, mate.

And, I haven't sat down with him and really hashed out his political stance, but having been a semi-active reader in the WR for the past year or so, it seems pretty clear to me that he isn't an extremist left wing nutjob who disowns moderates. I think suggesting this is also disingenuous.

but, maybe I'm wrong - I'd be open to seeing any evidence that he does hold these beliefs - just, make sure you link the thread, so we know it isn't something said in jest :D
I addressed that. I literally never go through peoples search histories. I'm also not going to go looking for specific contexts on every single one to boot.

I also just stated I find him to be one of the most intelligent lefties here. I actually respect him more than most of the others.

These things I've addressed. My dude has 60,000 posts and without knowing specific verbiage holy shit that's probably time consuming. When I address these questions, I don't expect to be asked 4 times to clarify.
 
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