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[EL CORINTHIAN]

I missed the question. I never claimed that a population must be demographically balanced for its opinions to be valid. Strange strawman.

A survey on what? Sherdog being mostly dudes posting?

Oh, so when you asked how this site was balanced despite it not mirroring USAs demographics, me pointing it out made it a strawman all of a sudden because you couldn't answer the question?

And in an attempt not to look like a pedantic retard you're trying to play it off like you're using common sense to derive your opinion. Who cares if it's primarily dudes, that doesn't matter as you just now suggested. That's just a strawman.

I'm going to take this exchange as your attempt at breaking balls, yet again.

 

[avenue94]

Oh, so when you asked how this site was balanced despite it not mirroring USAs demographics, me pointing it out made it a strawman all of a sudden because you couldn't answer the question?

No, the strawman was your attempt to claim that I am discrediting the opinions of sherdog because they aren't demographically reflective. It's a karate forum, I don't care if it's balanced or not. But arguing it's somehow balanced is laughable.

I mean politically balanced between the users who post in the warroom and opine on politically charged topics. I'm basing this off of being here since 2004 and seeing discussion here day in day out. If that opinion is only valid if and only if the demographics are perfectly mirroring American demographics then I'd have to ask.......why?

And in an attempt not to look like a pedantic retard you're trying to play it off like you're using common sense to derive your opinion. Who cares if it's primarily dudes, that doesn't matter as you just now suggested. That's just a strawman.

I'm going to take this exchange as your attempt at breaking balls, yet again.

I'm still waiting for you to explain what balanced means. And nah, this isn't posting to bust balls, I'm actually curious on whether you mean that sherdog has an even split between right/left or that it reflects the partisan split of Greece or the US or any other country, since those are two very different things.

As far as who cares if it's only dudes, I don't. But claiming that a sample is "balanced" despite being very not reflective of the wider population is baffling.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

No, the strawman was your attempt to claim that I am discrediting the opinions of sherdog because they aren't demographically reflective. It's a karate forum, I don't care if it's balanced or not. But arguing it's somehow balanced is laughable.


I'm still waiting for you to explain what balanced means. And nah, this isn't posting to bust balls, I'm actually curious on whether you mean that sherdog has an even split between right/left or that it reflects the partisan split of Greece or the US or any other country, since those are two very different things.

As far as who cares if it's only dudes, I don't. But claiming that a sample is "balanced" despite being very not reflective of the wider population is baffling.

No, it's precisely what you're doing. Exhibit A:

How is this place balanced despite being not demographically balanced to the US or any country in the world?

And then you follow it up with:

As far as who cares if it's only dudes, I don't. But claiming that a sample is "balanced" despite being very not reflective of the wider population is baffling.

So, in what sense is my claim a strawman when it's LITERALLY what you're saying......by being a pedantic retard no less.

Edit: btw, I already answered your question.

 

[avenue94]

No, it's precisely what you're doing. Exhibit A:


And then you follow it up with:


So, in what sense is my claim a strawman when it's LITERALLY what you're saying......by being a pedantic retard no less.

Edit: btw, I already answered your question.

I'm still waiting for you to explain what you mean by balanced. You don't have to answer, but we're just going in circles here with you insisting that sherdog is balanced and then not explaining why it is other than vibes.

And it's relevant because this is basic sampling 101: opt in and lack of demographic balance almost always ensure that the sample is not reflective of the general public. Sherdog doesn't have to be, but there's no point in not calling a spade a spade here, as opposed to pretending sherdog is "balanced" politically or demographically.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

I'm still waiting for you to explain what you mean by balanced. You don't have to answer, but we're just going in circles here with you insisting that sherdog is balanced and then not explaining why it is other than vibes.

And it's relevant because this is basic sampling 101: opt in and lack of demographic balance almost always ensure that the sample is not reflective of the general public. Sherdog doesn't have to be, but there's no point in not calling a spade a spade here, as opposed to pretending sherdog is "balanced" politically or demographically.

Like, what are you even waiting for? What's baffling is that you even quoted my answer and are now pretending as if I'm dodging you.

I mean politically balanced between the users who post in the warroom and opine on politically charged topics. I'm basing this off of being here since 2004 and seeing discussion here day in day out. If that opinion is only valid if and only if the demographics are perfectly mirroring American demographics then I'd have to ask.......why?

I'm going to ask you once more, why is THAT opinion only valid if it mirrors American Demographics? Simple question that you're dancing around.

 

[avenue94]

Like, what are you even waiting for? What's baffling is that you even quoted my answer and are now pretending as if I'm dodging you.

You answered with a tautology. Sherdog is balanced because you think it's politically balanced between users. Should I take that to mean you think sherdog has a roughly 50/50 split between right/left? Or that you mean it's representative of right/left splits, which aren't 50/50 in most countries.

I'm going to ask you once more, why is THAT opinion only valid if it mirrors American Demographics? Simple question that you're dancing around.

If you mean why claiming Sherdog is "balanced" is a baffling opinion, it's because your sample (the war room) is self selected and not demographically representative of any country's general population. It's a karate forum dude lol.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

You answered with a tautology. Sherdog is balanced because you think it's politically balanced between users. Should I take that to mean you think sherdog has a roughly 50/50 split between right/left? Or that you mean it's representative of right/left splits, which aren't 50/50 in most countries.

If you mean why claiming Sherdog is "balanced" is a baffling opinion, it's because your sample (the war room) is self selected and not demographically representative of any country's general population. It's a karate forum dude lol.

Except no one is inferring demographic representation of any nation, much less America's, with a statement that a discussion board is politically "balanced." And therefore doesn't have to be demographically reflective which is why you aren't answering my question (no surprise there)

It is an MMA forum, we aren't conducting a poll for academic purposes you moron. The warroom represents a diverse range of ideologies on either side of the spectrum enough that we can facilitate healthy debate and not insulate ourselves in an echo chamber like Reddit or Blue sky, therefore it's "balanced". You don't need anything other than "vibes" to deduce that. You do not need to summon your knowledge from that stats course you took once upon a time in community college and to apply it where it's completely irrelevant, literally in every thread you happen to stink up.

So go ahead, and tell me why then does it HAVE to be demographically representative of the US for a discussion board to be politically balanced.
We know it doesn't, I just want to hear it from you.

I'll wait.

 

[avenue94]

Except no one is inferring demographic representation of any nation, much less America's, with a statement that a discussion board is politically "balanced." And therefore doesn't have to be demographically reflective which is why you aren't answering my question (no surprise there)

It is an MMA forum, we aren't conducting a poll for academic purposes you moron. The warroom represents a diverse range of ideologies on either side of the spectrum enough that we can facilitate healthy debate and not insulate ourselves in an echo chamber like Reddit or Blue sky, therefore it's "balanced". You don't need anything other than "vibes" to deduce that. You do not need to summon your knowledge from that stats course you took once upon a time in community college and to apply it where it's completely irrelevant, literally in every thread you happen to stink up.

So go ahead, and tell me why then does it HAVE to be demographically representative of the US for a discussion board to be politically balanced.
We know it doesn't, I just want to hear it from you.

I'll wait.

The War Room skews more extremist than the average political population. It's not even close. See any thread about immigrant crime or trans people.

I personally don't think we need to include tankies, outright racists, and other fringe views to get a "balanced" political environment, but you do you.

Demographics matter because mma fans are whiter, older, and richer than the general population of any country. Hence claiming it leads to balanced political discussions is bizarre.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

The War Room skews more extremist than the average political population. It's not even close. See any thread about immigrant crime or trans people.

I personally don't think we need to include tankies, outright racists, and other fringe views to get a "balanced" political environment, but you do you.

Demographics matter because mma fans are whiter, older, and richer than the general population of any country. Hence claiming it leads to balanced political discussions is bizarre.

So you're essentially basing this off of vibes then.

 

[avenue94]

So you're essentially basing this off of vibes then.

I'd say more than vibes, but like I said, you do you.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

I'd say more than vibes, but like I said, you do you.

Nah, vibes makes sense.

Anyways, thanks for coming out.

 

[johnsmithjohnson]

This place is balanced, don't kid yourself.

Now go ahead and hit me up with a laughing emoji you weak and pathetic dweeb of a man.

I don't know. 10% of the site denied trump is in the Epstein files even though it's publicly known he's in the files.
If that reflects the Continental United States, that's really bad. I can't tell if the passive aggressive question argument style that repressive regimes is that wide spread in america now, I've been off continent for ovet a decade. It's bizarre for me to see Americans arguing like Chinese, Russians or Indians firing le epic questions off as arguments. We get alot of tourist from those areas and half the time we think they are just curios but don't realize they are trying to haggle/argue.
Maybe this is normal there now and the population has become docile. I get Socratic method and rhetorical questions but I never see it properly done here. It's always in bad faith or framed.
Sorry for the diatribe

 

[Rygu]

Surely it's a conspiracy across the entire country, every state and jurisdiction are manipulating the crime figures!

It couldn't be that crime is actually at the lowest point in our lifetime and the grifting loser conservatives are just beating the same drum as usual.

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This aged well.