I guess were getting Jones-Gane 2!

He literally ran away and retired so he wouldn’t have to face Tom. There is no way you can spin that
Jones had nothing to gain by beating Tom, a guy who hasnt achieved anything, atleast no more than Gane had when he beat him.

And look how people dismiss the Gane victory as soon as Jones choked him clean out.

No matter when Jones retired, the narrative will always be-

"Jones was afraid to fight X unknown up and comer."
 
Jones Hetired. The Hematch with Tom is the best option.
 
Jones had nothing to gain by beating Tom, a guy who hasnt achieved anything, atleast no more than Gane had when he beat him.

And look how people dismiss the Gane victory as soon as Jones choked him clean out.

No matter when Jones retired, the narrative will always be-

"Jones was afraid to fight X unknown up and comer."
Tom was the interim champion. Champions are to defend against the interim and before this debacle, that’s how it has always been.

Come on now, you can’t possibly believe that crap can you? Jon retired so he wouldn’t have to defend his belt against Tom. He couldn’t escape it if he was to hold onto the belt any longer so he ran. He was that scared to take a risky fight.
 
I wouldn't be opposed. Like I said the first time, if Gane can keep it upright Jones is toast. Of course he didn't but maybe he will next time
 
Tom was the interim champion. Champions are to defend against the interim and before this debacle, that’s how it has always been.

Come on now, you can’t possibly believe that crap can you? Jon retired so he wouldn’t have to defend his belt against Tom. He couldn’t escape it if he was to hold onto the belt any longer so he ran. He was that scared to take a risky fight.

Gane was the interim champ with a better record than Tom, when Jones choked him out.

Now people call Gane a white belt.

What would Jones have gained from beating Tom that he didnt from beating Gane?
 
Gane was the interim champ with a better record than Tom, when Jones choked him out.

Now people call Gane a white belt.

What would Jones have gained from beating Tom that he didnt from beating Gane?
Nice deflection. Jon ran from Tom. He could have remained champ and not had to retire out of fear and take a dump all over his legacy.

What did he have to gain? Lmao… champs defend dude. How many other champs went on a media tour to say defending against the number 1 contender was dumb? None. If they did, they were stripped. He got his gimme fight against a corpse and then ran when he realized he had to take on some risk.

Cope harder. No mental gymnastics and changing around words can defend what Jon did. And now Jon fans are claiming Tom sucks and is a quitter so it makes Jon running away from the sport for him look even worse.
 
Even in the limited action we saw, it wasn't the dominant clinic for Aspinall that some hype suggests, and it sure as hell doesn't elevate him above these all-time greats. I'll lay it all out here, fight by fight, stat by stat, and achievement by achievement, so we can see why Aspinall isn't worthy of that Jones superfight while Pereira laps him in belts, versatility, and proven greatness.First off, let's address the Gane comparison head-on, because that's the crux of that post you quoted. Yeah, in the brief 4:35 of UFC 321 (October 2025) before the double eye poke ended things, Aspinall landed about 3 fewer significant strikes than Gane overall, and sure, he edged out in head strikes (per early UFC Stats breakdowns showing Aspinall at roughly 51% head strike accuracy vs. Gane's 26%, with Aspinall connecting on more clean shots up top). But calling that "evenly balanced" or proof Aspinall was "smoked" is revisionist history at best. The fight was just heating up—Aspinall was pressuring with his trademark blitzes, closing distance, and landing those crisp head shots that have folded lesser heavyweights. Gane was countering effectively with body work (hitting 30% there), but it was far from a rout; ESPN and Yahoo both noted it felt like Aspinall was gaining momentum before the foul. Contrast that with Jon Jones vs. Gane at UFC 285 (March 2023): Jones didn't "strike with" Gane like the post claims to downplay it—he toyed with him. Jones landed 16 of 25 significant strikes (64% accuracy), including elbows and knees in the clinch, before dragging Gane down for a guillotine choke at 2:04 of Round 1. Zero strikes exchanged on the feet for long because Jones dictated the pace with superior wrestling and IQ, finishing Gane without breaking a sweat. Aspinall's willingness to stand and bang is admirable, but it's also his Achilles' heel against elite grapplers—exactly why Jones has zero interest in risking his legacy on a stand-up war with someone like Tom, who could clip him early. Jones loses on the feet to prime heavyweights like Gane or Ngannou?

Maybe in a pure kickboxing match, but in MMA, his fight IQ turns those matchups into ground-and-pound clinics. The post's "nonsensical" jab at comparing the fights ignores how Jones adapts; Aspinall just overwhelms with athleticism, which works against mid-tier guys but hasn't been tested against true GOAT-level chess players.Now, zooming out to why Aspinall isn't "as good" as Jones or Pereira: Start with the resumes. Jon Jones is the undisputed blueprint for MMA dominance. At 28-1 (with that one DQ loss to Gustafsson overturned to a no-contest), he's the youngest UFC champ ever (beating Shogun Rua at 23 for the light heavyweight belt in 2011), holds the record for most title wins (15), most defenses (now 12 after his TKO of Stipe Miocic in November 2024 at UFC 309), and longest unbeaten streak (17 fights, per UFC records). He's beaten five former champs in a row—Rampage Jackson, Forrest Griffin, Rashad Evans, Lyoto Machida, and Daniel Cormier (twice)—plus hall-of-famers like Vitor Belfort and Quinton Jackson. Jones moved up to heavyweight and claimed the belt in his first fight there, submitting Gane in under three minutes, then defended against Miocic with a vicious spinning back kick TKO in Round 3. His versatility is insane: 10 knockouts, 7 subs, elite wrestling (84.5" reach, Greco-Roman base), Muay Thai striking, and BJJ black belt. Sure, he's had off-octagon drama—PED flags, legal issues—but inside the cage, he's untouchable. Aspinall? Solid 15-3 record (1 NC), but those three losses (two pre-UFC submissions in BAMMA to guys like Stuart Austin and Lukasz Parobiec, one quick injury TKO to Curtis Blaydes in 2022) show vulnerabilities in grappling and durability that Jones has never had. Aspinall's UFC run is impressive—8-1 with finishes in all wins, holding the record for shortest average fight time (2:18)—but it's against a softer heavyweight field: knockouts of Andrei Arlovski (washed at 42), Alexander Volkov (sub at 3:45, but Volkov gassed), Marcin Tybura, and a rematch KO of Blaydes in 60 seconds at UFC 304 (July 2024). Becoming undisputed champ after Jones vacated in early 2025 is cool, but one defense attempt (the NC vs. Gane) doesn't scream "better than Jones." The post's "multiple recent actual losses" dig? Aspinall's last loss was 2022—hardly "recent" or "multiple," and the Blaydes one was a fluke knee injury at 0:15. But it highlights his fragility; Jones has fought through wars (Gustafsson I, Cormier I) without folding.Shifting to Alex Pereira—your point about him being better than Tom and earning more belts is spot-on, and it's why Pereira's the one who should get a crack at Jones if/when he un-retires, not Aspinall.

Pereira's 13-3 UFC record is a masterclass in crossover dominance. From Glory Kickboxing (where he held middleweight and light heavyweight titles simultaneously, the only guy to do that, with KOs over Israel Adesanya twice), he stormed MMA: Won the middleweight belt in his fifth UFC fight (TKO over Adesanya at UFC 281, November 2022), defended once (UD over Sean Strickland), then moved up to light heavyweight, snagged that belt with a wild last-second KO of Jiri Prochazka at UFC 295 (November 2023), and defended it three times in one calendar year (2024)—KO of Jamahal Hill at UFC 300, KO of Prochazka rematch at UFC 303, and TKO of Khalil Rountree at UFC 307. That's six title fights, four wins, two divisions conquered—the ninth fighter to do it, first in middleweight and light heavy. Shortest time for three defenses? 175 days, smashing Ronda Rousey's old mark. His power is nuclear (10 KOs in UFC, including Adesanya's chin), with 57% striking accuracy, and he's added ground game (subbed by Israel in their 2023 loss, but avenged it). Losses? Early kickboxing carryover (decision to Jan Blachowicz at UFC 291), a sub to Adesanya when rusty, and a recent TKO to Magomed Ankalaev at UFC 320 (2025), but that's one blemish in a streak of nine straight UFC wins before it. Pereira's beaten elite strikers (Adesanya x2, Prochazka x2, Hill) and shown adaptability—clinches, takedown defense (85% in title fights). Aspinall has zero title defenses completed, one belt (heavyweight, post-vacancy), and no multi-division cred. Pereira's won more belts (two undisputed UFC straps vs. Tom's one) and defended more times under pressure.

If Jones wants a legacy fight, it's Pereira's knockout power vs. his grappling chess—styles make superfights, and that's electric. Aspinall vs. Jones? It's a coin flip on the feet where Jones could get tagged, but Tom's unproven ground game (tapped by Volkov briefly in 2022) makes it too risky for Jon without the payout incentive.As for the Ngannou angle in your opener—yeah, Jones moved to heavyweight eyeing that monster matchup, but Ngannou bolted to PFL/boxing after UFC contract drama (he wanted out of a "trap" deal, per his own words in 2024 interviews). The post spins it like Jones "ran" from Ngannou or Aspinall, but history says otherwise: Jones demanded Deontay Wilder-level money (8-10 million, as he tweeted in 2021) because Ngannou's power threatened his 0, and UFC lowballed both sides. Ngannou himself blamed UFC greed in 2023 ("We both were asking for it"), not Jones ducking. Jones didn't vacate to avoid heavyweights—he won the belt outright. Aspinall benefits from that vacuum but hasn't earned the stripes to call it his birthright over Pereira, who's stacking defenses while Tom's still building (and nursing that eye from Gane).Bottom line: Aspinall's explosive, but he's a highlight-reel machine in a division that's been rudderless since

Jones cleared out the old guard. Jones is the GOAT with records that might never break; Pereira's the active destroyer with more belts, more defenses, and scarier striking. Tom gets there with wins over top-5 guys like Pavlovich or Volkov in decisions (not just 1st-round blasts), but right now? He's not better, and he's not worthy of jumping the line. That agenda-driven narrative? It's the Aspinall hype train ignoring substance for sizzle
Dude, what the hell AI crap is this?
Alex never defended the MW belt. Izzy never won by sub. He did not KO Jiri in the last second of either fight. WTF?
 
Whos to say Tom cant wrestlefuck him and sub him? thats the real question mark heading into the rematch.
The question is if Aspinall is able to improve on his takedowns, because his takedowns are mediocre at best, either involves Aspinall just rushing in or capitalizing on a exchange in the pocket like he did Volkov, which Gane does not fight like Volkov, Gane is moving and pivoting. Im pretty confident Aspinall has ability to sub Gane, but if it gets into the later rounds, will he still be able to? “Wrestlefucking” into a decision? Thats a little ambitious.
We got a single round of stand up, it doesnt tell us all that much.
It tells and showed us that Aspinall has a difficult time with someone who knows how to use their reach with footwork in short he’s needs to improve and or figure out how to close the distance and he’s vulnerable to oblique kicks. and let’s all be honest here, his gas tank and the ability to keep a pace is still in question, while Gane we have seen in decisions both 3 rounds and Championship fights, where he still is able to be competitive and not gas. Judging from the way Aspinall was fighting against Gane, it’s either he’s confident in not gassing out or stubborn into believing it won’t make it into the later rounds. Imo Aspinall looked to be the one slowing down out of them prior to the eye poke.
 
Gane was the interim champ with a better record than Tom, when Jones choked him out.

Now people call Gane a white belt.

What would Jones have gained from beating Tom that he didnt from beating Gane?
<PlusJuan>
 
Dana should start a new promotion

Power Poke

Jones vs Gane for the inaugural belt. Cormier can come back.
 
Contextually, this is new ground based on a new situation and thus, sherbros discuss and speculate.
Yeah, because Jon got a special set of rules that allowed him to duck a contender so he could cherry-pick exhibition fights while holding a belt.

Nobody else before got that and I sure hope it doesn’t happen again because it’s awful for the sport.
 
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