How much will Uncle Dana pay Jones to fight Tommy?

[Bend NvR Break]

You are not a serious poster, nobody takes you seriously.

"Dana said..."

LMAO

LMFAO.
LMFAO.


Project much?

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

You are not a serious poster, nobody takes you seriously.

"Dana said..."

LMAO

"Dana said" is perfectly valid when arguing against Jones, right @blaseblase ?

 

[mkess101]

However much it is, it will by sheer coincidence be exactly $1 less than what would get Jon to sign on.

 

[Mmmmmmma1234]

Why didn't they just do that w Francis if it's that easy?


That would have done way more buys than Jones vs Tom.

Tuki did do it with Francis vs fury and AJ. Even Francis vs renan was a Saudi Arabia event.

 

[gracie_barra_samurai]

His Excellency will be holding Jon and Tom's hands in the announcement soon.

 

[Mmmmmmma1234]

In another 6 months, negotiations start.

Dana: Jon sucks, he was never any good, he is scared of Tom, he has chicken legs, not even a pound for pound champion.

Dana will turn on Jon. Jon wants to be paid and Dana won't have that.

I can't wait for Dana "jones is only 4th in p4p he isn't worth top p4p guy money" soundbite.

 

[CC27]

I think UFC could go to 20. If he got 10-15 for Stipe I think bumping to 20 is doable, UFC wont like it but with no other big star fights and Conor not fighting they can do it.

No chance they go in that 25-30 mill range though unless the Saudis bought the fight, paid UFC a huge fee and took care of the purses to do it over there.

Jones would def fight Tom for that money but I think its more knowingly negotiating himself out of the fight to put it on UFC knowing they wont pay that much so ask for it and then say its their fault.

But he'll then be like ok for Tom I'll fight him for 30-40 but give me 20 and I'll do the Alex fight and that can get done and thats probably what ends up happening. and again if you're the UFC would you rather no Jones fight or a massive Jones/Alex fight next year?

 

[Copper Burner]

Not that bad, I bet on Trump to win. So either way I would not feel too bad,

If Jon walks around MAGAville he might get lynched, as an older white guy I certainly will not. No Muslim ban for me, not gay, not Mexican. Trump's incompetence does not affect me much compared to the average American.
It might suck if his plan to cut social security for people with pensions goes through though.

 

[DapperDave]

Jones: "... I don’t need him at all and he needs me and that’s a good place to be in a negotiation.”

Jones is saying what he should be saying.

But it isn't fact.

This whole conversation is about legacy, and Jones only has two choices: fight aspinall or suck on the "duck" assertion for 40 years until he dies.

UFC knows this. UFC also knows Jones is 37 and not getting younger, which Jones also knows.

I predict high purse, but not stupid purse.

 

[Mmmmmmma1234]

The proof isn't on me. All the numbers are publicly reported with the exception of Ngannou's PPV cut from the UFC. You know as well as I do that those numbers aren't reported, but Jon Jones has leaked that he made over $10M for one of the Cormier fights.

So we know ballpark Jon Jones made roughly $10-15M for the 800k PPV buys sold against Cormier. Again, are you saying that Jon Jones sells more PPVs than Ngannou? Yes or no?

This is so unhinged. Yes everyone and their mom thought Jones vs cormier was a bigger event than Francis vs Gane. Jones had won how many fights in his goat career and re-up his price alot to get there and I'm pretty sure you made up his 10m too. USING a fantasy 10m then upping it to 15m then transposing it to Francis pay.

Here's some reality for you. Francis didn't win a belt besting Overeem. Francis was headlining FN cards up until he won the belt. Francis DID NOT resign a new contract as champion so he was getting paid like a contender not a champion. DC a guy getting million dollar backstage bonuses was jealous of Francis purse vs Fury. Dana, Francis both say him getting 8m would be the most he ever made in a fight IF he'd taken a Jones fight.

Name any fight you think Francis got 15m?

 

[Dave Poodle]

I think it's funny that you believe Ngannou made so little money.

You're a joke for believing Dana's propaganda. UFC fighters are not legally allowed to discuss their true salaries including PPV cuts. It's in their contracts. If you had any brains, you would realize that by definition any numbers they publicly disclose must be a lie.

Francis refused to sign a new contract after beating Stipe as he didn't want to lock himself in with UFC any longer so no, he never got champ money. He got the same money he got taking regular fights. That's why he got a lot less than most champs. He's said a few times the most he got was $600k as challenger. Don't know what he got vs Gane.
You seem to have a massively over-inflated idea of what UFC pays. Why on earth would you think Francis was making way more than Brock Lesnar?

 

[HHJ]

Tuki did do it with Francis vs fury and AJ. Even Francis vs renan was a Saudi Arabia event.

But not Jones.



I wonder why

 

[Mmmmmmma1234]

But not Jones.



I wonder why

The UFC didn't have the relationship it has today with Saudi Arabia back then. Dana and the UFC were also dead set against the boxing crossover again. Jones vs Tom is something the UFC wants and controls they just need Jones payment covered.

 

[Aurelian]

UFC doesn't see Tom as a huge PPV draw, and he isn't at least not yet. If Dana thought he would make big money on the PPV he would pay Jon an exorbitant amount of money for the fight but he's not going to take a loss or a profit too small it's not worth the UFC's time.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

20 mil

 

[HuskySamoan]

UFC's first 8-figure fight purse and yet another record for Jonny Bones

Conor made 8 figures multiple times in the UFC goofy.

 

[ClosetVitorFan]

Dana can pay Jones 15 million to fight Tom and still make a profit, the card will just be top heavy. It will most likely be Jones last fight win or lose. But if he wins, Jones is gonna hold up that belt for as long as humanly possible out of spite.

 

[Dave Poodle]

Dana can pay Jones 15 million to fight Tom and still make a profit, the card will just be top heavy. It will most likely be Jones last fight win or lose. But if he wins, Jones is gonna hold up that belt for as long as humanly possible out of spite.

It's not just about making a profit, it's about maximising profits. They have formulas they work to. Normally they try to cover fighter pay just with the gate. That's why Conor tickets are so expensive and they've now tried to charge those prices for Jon. They already pay Jon far more than they normally would for someone who brings in his numbers. They're paying him more than Brock but he doesn't bring in close to his PPV numbers. While I really want to see the fight I have strong doubts they'll be willing to raise Jon's pay any more.

 

[p4pfighters]

Dana will probably make a belt for Jones, the Baddest Man on the planet champion or some cringe name , and then he will defend his belt against real legends and champions like Randy Couture , Chuck liddell or Mark Coleman ,this belt will be on par with the superhulk belt.
And when Jon has finished them all , a legendary fight against the GOAT of boxing Jake Paul.

 

[Aurelian]

It's not just about making a profit, it's about maximising profits. They have formulas they work to. Normally they try to cover fighter pay just with the gate. That's why Conor tickets are so expensive and they've now tried to charge those prices for Jon. They already pay Jon far more than they normally would for someone who brings in his numbers. They're paying him more than Brock but he doesn't bring in close to his PPV numbers. While I really want to see the fight I have strong doubts they'll be willing to raise Jon's pay any more.

It's hard to compare Jon and Brocks PPV numbers because the PPV price in 2009 was $44.95. Roughly 1 million buys for Brock brings about the same money as 500k buys for Jon today just as an example.