International E Jean Carroll Bests Donald J Trump to the Tune of $83 million

[Loiosh]

i've been summoned for jury duty before. i really didn't want to do it and i was looking on the internet for the best ways to get myself out of it. the guy decided to plead out right before the trial was set to begin so that came as a bit of a relief.

I was summoned for a murder trial but never got as far as the interview before they had filled the jury.

 

[Hugh G Rection]

I'm not familiar with the Depp/Hurd case other than she shit in his bed. Lol


Trump settled a case in '97 from a woman who accused of attempted rape. He was also sued in 2019 by a campaign staffer. There are like over 40 women that have made SA claims about him, but....


I've said all along I have doubts about the story, but like I've also said - he should have testified.

Genuinely curious as to why you think his testimony is so important and what you think his testimony would have looked like.

What could he possibly have said in his defence other than 'I didn't do it'

 

[idrankyourbeer]

I was summoned for a murder trial but never got as far as the interview before they had filled the jury.

just tell the judge that you believe in jury nullification or ask any questions with the word "nullification" in it, or say that you can tell when someone is guilty just by looking at them, or start pulling the religious card and say that you believe that it is only up to god to judge others for their sins and they'll just tell you to get the fuck out of their courtroom.

or if you want to get out of it and maybe even get slapped with contempt, just tell the judge that you've always dreamed of being on a jury panel ever since the oj simpson trial!

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Genuinely curious as to why you think his testimony is so important and what you think his testimony would have looked like.

What could he possibly have said in his defence other than 'I didn't do it'

I didn't do it goes a lot farther than not testifying in a civil trial.

Remember the jury is told to weigh the fact that a defendant doesn't testify.

 

[Loiosh]

just tell the judge that you believe in jury nullification, you can tell when someone is guilty just by looking at them, or start pulling the religious card and say that you believe that it is only up to god to judge others for their sins and they'll just tell you to get the fuck out of their courtroom.

or if you want to get out of it and maybe even get slapped with contempt, just tell the judge that you've always dreamed of being on a jury panel ever since the oj simpson trial!

I wanted to serve.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

I wanted to serve.

oh. well not me. ain't no way i'm gonna sit in a courtroom all week listening to a bunch of people smearing each other. the drama in the war room of a karate forum is much more amusing to keep up with.

 

[Hugh G Rection]

I didn't do it goes a lot farther than not testifying in a civil trial.

Remember the jury is told to weigh the fact that a defendant doesn't testify.

I doubt any juror is changing their mind simply because he denied it.

I'm not trying to be a dick, I just don't see the importance his testimony makes in this particular case.

 

[Andy Capp]

I doubt any juror is changing their mind simply because he denied it.

I'm not trying to be a dick, I just don't see the importance his testimony makes in this particular case.

Username checks out--you don't need to try....

j/k

In all seriousness, it's a civil matter and one of the parties chooses not to appear. That will always work against you no matter what you might or might not say were you to appear. Maybe he didn't go because he's afraid he'd crack and say something damning. Maybe if people can observe him they can see his own body language betrays him. They're entitled to hold not showing up against him.

Not to mention it shows an arrogant contempt for the proceedings. It's a little easier to consider someone to be in the wrong when they act like that.

 

[Hugh G Rection]

Username checks out--you don't need to try....

j/k

In all seriousness, it's a civil matter and one of the parties chooses not to appear. That will always work against you no matter what you might or might not say were you to appear. Maybe he didn't go because he's afraid he'd crack and say something damning. Maybe if people can observe him can see his own body language betrays him. They're entitled to hold not showing up against him.

Not to mention it shows an arrogant contempt for the proceedings. It's a little easier to consider someone to be in the wrong when they act like that.

Fair point (including the name!!)

 

[Andy Capp]

It's a pretty serious idea.

Trump is 2-0 against women in presidential races. This has Democratic party leaders thinking that they can't risk running another woman again any time soon.

Oh, the elections... duh.

Well, yeah. Misogyny is not relegated to Republicans, sadly. I think it's clear a significant number of young men in particular either voted Trump or stayed home when they would have otherwise voted Democrat.

Indeed, I recall saying (earlier ITT or elsewhere, not sure,) that it's more likely the Republicans will run a woman before the Democrats do in the near term.

 

[Loiosh]

Oh, the elections... duh.

Well, yeah. Misogyny is not relegated to Republicans, sadly. I think it's clear a significant number of young men in particular either voted Trump or stayed home when they would have otherwise voted Democrat.

Indeed, I recall saying (earlier ITT or elsewhere, not sure,) that it's more likely the Republicans will run a woman before the Democrats do in the near term.

A Republican woman is more likely to win than a Democratic woman.

 

[Andy Capp]

A Republican woman is more likely to win than a Democratic woman.

I think that's what I just said, isn't it?

 

[Loiosh]

I think that's what I just said, isn't it?

No, that isn't what you said.

Oh, the things I could teach you about pedantry.

 

[Andy Capp]

No, that isn't what you said.

Oh, the things I could teach you about pedantry.

Oh. Doh again lol

Yes, of course it's possible either one of them could run women candidates for some time before any of them win. I get that, so yeah, my bad. But I'm fine with being shown my error so I can correct it.

Let's not have a pedantry contest; it seems unlikely to be something where one could establish supremacy. Pedantry is pedantry. But I'm open to you expanding upon "Oh, the things I could teach you about pedantry" for shits and giggles. Shoot me a PM if you get the urge.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

I doubt any juror is changing their mind simply because he denied it.

I'm not trying to be a dick, I just don't see the importance his testimony makes in this particular case.

Fair enough, but do you think there could have been a jurors or 2 on fence that thought he's not testifying because he's guilty?.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Oh, the elections... duh.

Well, yeah. Misogyny is not relegated to Republicans, sadly. I think it's clear a significant number of young men in particular either voted Trump or stayed home when they would have otherwise voted Democrat.

Indeed, I recall saying (earlier ITT or elsewhere, not sure,) that it's more likely the Republicans will run a woman before the Democrats do in the near term.

Fun fact you won't hear on left leaning media:

% of women voters won
'96 Clinton - 54
'00 Gore. - 54
'04 Kerry. - 51
'08 Obama - 56
'12 Obama. - 55
'16 Clinton - 54
'20 Biden. - 57
'24 Harris. - 53

Gender Differences in 2024 Vote Choice Are Similar to Most Recent Presidential Elections

cawp.rutgers.edu

Working class women care more about feeding the children they have than abortion on demand.

 

[Andy Capp]

Fun fact you won't hear on left leaning media:

% of women voters won
'96 Clinton - 54
'00 Gore. - 54
'04 Kerry. - 51
'08 Obama - 56
'12 Obama. - 55
'16 Clinton - 54
'20 Biden. - 57
'24 Harris. - 53

Gender Differences in 2024 Vote Choice Are Similar to Most Recent Presidential Elections

cawp.rutgers.edu

Working class women care more about feeding the children they have than abortion on demand.

Correlation doesn't equal causation. And I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make here anyway. 6 elections out of the ones you posted are +/- 1 percent from 54. What makes you think the drop in support from women between Biden and Harris was specifically because of "the abortion question" and not the myriad other contributing factors people have identified since the election?

For that matter, why isn't this instead a question of why Biden's support was greater than for any Democrat in the previous 6 elections?

Edit: also, this is based upon exit polling. I don't have much confidence in that, especially these days.

 

[SurferH2O]

Fun fact you won't hear on left leaning media:

% of women voters won
'96 Clinton - 54
'00 Gore. - 54
'04 Kerry. - 51
'08 Obama - 56
'12 Obama. - 55
'16 Clinton - 54
'20 Biden. - 57
'24 Harris. - 53

Gender Differences in 2024 Vote Choice Are Similar to Most Recent Presidential Elections

cawp.rutgers.edu

Working class women care more about feeding the children they have than abortion on demand.

A ton of them are mentally unstable... like E. Jean Carroll... so it checks out.

 

[Hugh G Rection]

Fair enough, but do you think there could have been a jurors or 2 on fence that thought he's not testifying because he's guilty?.

Honestly, I absolutely can.

In my mind, the underlying evidence doesn't support her claim at all so him getting up and denying it is moot.

But I'm not a juror and I can absolutely see how they might see it differently.

 

[cincymma79]

Fair enough, but do you think there could have been a jurors or 2 on fence that thought he's not testifying because he's guilty?.

Honestly, she can’t even prove that he was in New York at the same time as her. There’s just no way that I’m voting in her favor.