Does anyone really believe Khamzat vs DDP is happening?

[ShadowRun]

Khamzet will smash DDP , easy win

 

[Ramon Antonio]

So you think it's degenerate to bet something that you believe has a 99.999% chance of winning and they'll pay you almost double what you'd bet (plus your wager back)? Yeah that's terrific math and makes total sense, bud!

I don't decide whether something is a degenerate thing to do or not based on whether I make money from it. You have the moral compass of an only fans whore.

 

[Sticko]

Usually fighters start tapering down their training a week from the fight so if we get past these 2 weeks with no bad news it will happen as the risk for injury will basically be gone.. unless 1 of em pulls a b1tch move like Arman

Well this is just wrong. It's not uncommon for fighters to fall ill during fight week and withdraw (probably due to complications from the weight cut weakening their immune system).

 

[mkess101]

I don't decide whether something is a degenerate thing to do or not based on whether I make money from it. You have the moral compass of an only fans whore.

So anyone who ever makes a wager is a degenerate? Is that your stance?

 

[richardjohnson]

Gets Covid, and covid isn't "just a cold" - it's serious, fucked up stuff. So you listing that as if it were two things is misleading.

Fights in October 2021. You seemed to have left that out.

Screws up weight cut in Sept 2022, still fights.

Fights in October of 2023. COSTA is the one who didn't make the scheduled fight, with Usman stepping in on short notice. How would any of that be on Khamzat?

Had illness pop up for summer fight with Whittaker, so he pulled out. Fought the rescheduled fight a couple months later and won in spectacularly dominant fashion.

The reality seems quite different than what you are painting.

Yeah he hasn’t been nearly as unreliable as some make it seem, not very active, but still pretty reliable all things considered. Covid was cancelling fights left and right so it’s silly to hold that against him. The Nate situation was bad, I don’t have much defence for that other than he at least showed up and tried to make the weight. Maybe he should’ve pulled the same stunt Costa did vs Vettori and not even attempt to make weight, Sherdog seemed to love that.

Who knows, maybe he pulls out and I end up looking foolish but I believe it’s mostly the Covid cancellations that have created a very misleading narrative.

 

[PeterGriffin]

I think Chimaev's body is appreciating him settling in firmly at middleweight, and I believe the fight does down smoothly. Chimaev has a chance to become one of the UFC's biggest stars in he can duplicate the success he had in the Whitaker fight on American soil.

 

[Ramon Antonio]

So anyone who ever makes a wager is a degenerate? Is that your stance?

Most sport betters lose money in the long run, many get addicted and it has ruined many lives. Sure if you bet a few times here and there with pocket change that's fine. Betting the house on an MMA fight is degenerate behavior though. Which is what you were asking me to do because I'm convinced DDP will win.

 

[mkess101]

Most sport betters lose money in the long run, many get addicted and it has ruined many lives. Sure if you bet a few times here and there with pocket change that's fine. Betting the house on an MMA fight is degenerate behavior though. Which is what you were asking me to do because I'm convinced DDP will win.

I wasn't "asking" you to do anything. I assumed if you were that level of being delusionally confident in an underdog to win, you'd take advantage of that perceived free money to at least take some of it from the sportsbooks. You clearly understand the pitfalls of problem gamblers so that shouldn't be a risk for you. You also clearly believe the books play a role as villains in this ruining of lives so this would be an opportunity for you to take advantage of their foolishness in setting the line this way and "punish" them financially for the way they've hurt society.

 

[Ramon Antonio]

I wasn't "asking" you to do anything. I assumed if you were that level of being delusionally confident in an underdog to win, you'd take advantage of that perceived free money to at least take some of it from the sportsbooks. You clearly understand the pitfalls of problem gamblers so that shouldn't be a risk for you. You also clearly believe the books play a role as villains in this ruining of lives so this would be an opportunity for you to take advantage of their foolishness in setting the line this way and "punish" them financially for the way they've hurt society.

That doesn't make sense at all. Again, if I think something is not good to do, I don't do it. I don't first check whether it can make me money or not.

What other people do is up to them, it's a free world. Why would it be up to me to punish the bookies lol.

 

[RockyLockridge]

I think they scheduled it badly for Dricus/Whittaker to give Izzy an advantage in his title defense.

I agree, and I think that was VERY obvious. Either izzy got A compromised dricus, Or something easy.

they (the UFC) did this for Armen/Charles as well. It's another example of the UFC running a screen for their preferred defending champion. Arman couldn't take a short turn around after fighting charles. much like dricus couldn't, Leading to strickland and porier getting title shots.

Arman vs charles should have never happened. Should have just gone straight to armen vs Islam. same with strickland. I was always a huge izzy fan, but loved seeing strickland beat him. mostly because the UFC tried to stack the deck against Dricus and it backfired.

 

[mkess101]

That doesn't make sense at all. Again, if I think something is not good to do, I don't do it. I don't first check whether it can make me money or not.

What other people do is up to them, it's a free world. Why would it be up to me to punish the bookies lol.

I didn't say it was "up to you" in that I personally think you have a responsibility to do it. It just doesn't make sense to me that someone would hold your stance and not take advantage of entities you deem predatory when (in your eyes) they've given you what's essentially a free payout.

What I think is far more likely is that you were talking out your ass to a degree and while you're perhaps confident in DDP, your assertion that the fight is essentially a lock for him is silly bluster and nothing more. You can certainly deny that, but it seems pretty clear.

 

[skylolow]

I'll be worried until he takes one step into the cage if this fight happens.

The dude is cursed or something.

 

[Tokoloko]

Chimaev only pulled out twice in his UFC career.. that list is bullshxt listing the nate fight twice lmao

Its comical to me that some people liked ur message like ur saying truth. Khamzat pulled at minimal, repeating AT MINIMAL 5 times....and these are known fights, we dont know how many fights in meanwhile he declined - For example Jiri called him out... (Chimaev never answered.)

1.He pulled out of three scheduled fights against Leon Edwards between late 2020 and early 2021 due to reportedly COVID-19 and lingering health issues related to the virus.

2.He missed weight by 7.5 pounds for his scheduled main event fight against Nate Diaz in September 2022, leading to his removal from the main event.

3. In June 2024, he pulled out of a fight against Robert Whittaker due to a "violent illness"

Also what is funny to me is his liver problems "due to covid", cuz iam not so convinced that these serious liver problems were caused by only covid...

 

[188912345]

Its comical to me that some people liked ur message like ur saying truth. Khamzat pulled at minimal, repeating AT MINIMAL 5 times....and these are known fights, we dont know how many fights in meanwhile he declined - For example Jiri called him out... (Chimaev never answered.)

1.He pulled out of three scheduled fights against Leon Edwards between late 2020 and early 2021 due to reportedly COVID-19 and lingering health issues related to the virus.

2.He missed weight by 7.5 pounds for his scheduled main event fight against Nate Diaz in September 2022, leading to his removal from the main event.

3. In June 2024, he pulled out of a fight against Robert Whittaker due to a "violent illness"

Also what is funny to me is his liver problems "due to covid", cuz iam not so convinced that these serious liver problems were caused by only covid...

Leon pulled out once with covid, I wouldn't put that on Khamzat.

Missing weight is not the same as pulling out.

 

[Versez]

I have a feeling Borailho will take the place of Khamzat....also a lot of rumors from russia and europe says that Khamzat might retire after this fight, win or lose.

 

[Tokoloko]

Leon pulled out once with covid, I wouldn't put that on Khamzat.

Missing weight is not the same as pulling out.

By 7.5??? Ur right sir, its much worse than a basic pullout!

 

[188912345]

By 7.5??? Ur right sir, its much worse than a basic pullout!

There was a catcweight fight scheduled at 180 lbs between Holland and D-rod.

When Khamzat couldn't make weight, they rearranged the fights to have him fight Holland.

He was down to 173ish, rehydrated to 178.5 before the weigh-in.

 

[Tokoloko]

There was a catcweight fight scheduled at 180 lbs between Holland and D-rod.

When Khamzat couldn't make weight, they rearranged the fights to have him fight Holland.

He was down to 173ish, rehydrated to 178.5 before the weigh-in.

How this change anything??? Dude even declined fight vs Rockhold, like come on... He is worldclass fighter but dude is A class clown for his behavior. He would have achiev so much more if he stayed fully loyal to AllStars and Gustafsson...but dirty money and fake hype is more to him than loyality..

BTW Thank you for correcting me with Leon. U were right, Leon pulled from first scheduled fight, Chimaev pulled from next two...

 

[Bradillac]

There was a catcweight fight scheduled at 180 lbs between Holland and D-rod.

When Khamzat couldn't make weight, they rearranged the fights to have him fight Holland.

He was down to 173ish, rehydrated to 178.5 before the weigh-in.

Come on now. I get your a big fan of his, but you have to try and be a little objective. Missing weight is just as bad if not worse than pulling out. He completely fucked up that card.

 

[Ramon Antonio]

I didn't say it was "up to you" in that I personally think you have a responsibility to do it. It just doesn't make sense to me that someone would hold your stance and not take advantage of entities you deem predatory when (in your eyes) they've given you what's essentially a free payout.

What I think is far more likely is that you were talking out your ass to a degree and while you're perhaps confident in DDP, your assertion that the fight is essentially a lock for him is silly bluster and nothing more. You can certainly deny that, but it seems pretty clear.

I never said predatory. Those are your words. I'm just saying it's one of those things that can ruin lives and most people lose money long term anyway. I don't think I'm better than other people, so why would I start playing? Doesn't mean others don't have the right to do so if they want. Freedom of choice and I decide to not bet lol. Is that so hard to understand?

I still am extremely confident DDP will win.