Dana White throwing shade at everyone when Reporter brings up Francis PFL Deal

[Poatan Power]

I don't understand how anyone can take this jackass seriously.

Really? it's beyond you to understand how anyone can take Dana seriously when it comes to combat sports? Can't use even a tiny portion of your imagination to figure that out? lol

 

[DecisionSplit]

PFL purchasing Bellator would be hilarious. Can't wait to see people shill whatever dirty money makes that transaction possible.

 

[Skarsgard]

Really? it's beyond you to understand how anyone can take Dana seriously when it comes to combat sports? Can't use even a tiny portion of your imagination to figure that out? lol

His opinion changes more often than Missouri weather and he's more fickle than a teenager. Yeah. It's pretty tough to understand why anyone would do more than pat him on the head and chuckle.

 

[DestinedAussie]

Kayla being PFL's biggest homegrown star just goes to show how utterly abysmal their marketing is. Harrison, despite her double Olympic gold medalist status, is a name few outside of the hardcore circle has heard of. And this is by design: PFL's whole gimmick is we're a "pure sport" where trash talking and personalities don't earn you fights, fighting worthy opponents do.

This is the fundamental problem with PFL: they build their whole identity around being everything the UFC isn't, when love it or hate it, UFC and the matchmaking model are the proven winning formulae. So you end up with is a misguided product that is at its core incompatible with the business reality of prize fighting, with all these ideas that look great on paper, and only on paper. In reality, fans tune in for exciting personalities, not some no name who fought through 3 tough nobodies to earn a shot at the title.

I think you are wrong about the winning formula for the UFC. The winning formula was tournaments with TUF where you got to watch it weekly and get to know the fights. TUF is the primary reason the UFC is what it is today.

Further the UFC model is signing the majority of top talent and convincing the public that winning a UFC belt makes you the best MMA fighter in that weight class in the world. It isn't the matchmaking model, which actually leaves a lot of people pretty frustrated, both fans and fighters.

The fundamental problem with the PFL is no ESPN deal and a very weak brand. Also the million dollar prize didn't generate the excitement they hoped to overcome those problems. It should be noted Bellator isn't really doing any better with the UFC model of matchmaking.

 

[Karl_Hungus]

Pros

• $30 million over three years is a significant amount of money.
• Ngannou will be one of the highest-paid fighters in the world.
• The deal gives Ngannou equity in the PFL.
• Ngannou will be the chairman of PFL Africa.
• Ngannou will be on the PFL advisory board.

Cons

• Ngannou is not allowed to fight outside of the PFL for the duration of the deal.
• The PFL has the right to match any offer Ngannou receives from another promotion.
• The PFL is not as well-known as the UFC.
• The PFL has a smaller roster of fighters than the UFC.

If that is true, then good for Francis, but that link doesn't prove anything, as it appears to be speculation. Logic tells any sane person that the PFL doesn't make much money, so they likely won't be able to pay Francis more. They might have promised him some long term benefits, or ppv revenue as an equity partner or some b.s. that will turn out to be a mirage. It just doesn't make sense, unless PFL is intent on driving themselves into bankruptcy.

 

[lefthighkick01]

Pros

• $30 million over three years is a significant amount of money.
• Ngannou will be one of the highest-paid fighters in the world.
• The deal gives Ngannou equity in the PFL.
• Ngannou will be the chairman of PFL Africa.
• Ngannou will be on the PFL advisory board.

Cons

• Ngannou is not allowed to fight outside of the PFL for the duration of the deal.
• The PFL has the right to match any offer Ngannou receives from another promotion.
• The PFL is not as well-known as the UFC.
• The PFL has a smaller roster of fighters than the UFC.

is that the confirmed 100% deal that Francis got? if so, hes winning big time, good move away from UFC

 

[Bearknuckle]

As big of a clown as Dana is (see Powerslap for reference), no serious person is blaming Dana for the Francis debacle.

What debacle?

 

[lefthighkick01]

Everybody who’s been following the sport since the early days know how this ends. Lawsuits, finger-pointing, regrets, etc. You little crybabies with 2023 join dates can whine about Dana all you want but he’s right. These B league mma organizations are run by absolute low-energy idiots who haven’t a clue how to market their product or balance their checkbooks.

I think this time it might be different with PFL, apparently they have sold out shows all the time and actually turn over a profit...

 

[Hdfi]

It’s the other way around.

Francis came from dirt. He’s not afraid to risk anything.

Well, he fled with the UFC belt to fight easier competition...

 

[AmonTobin]

Pros

• $30 million over three years is a significant amount of money.
• Ngannou will be one of the highest-paid fighters in the world.
• The deal gives Ngannou equity in the PFL.
• Ngannou will be the chairman of PFL Africa.
• Ngannou will be on the PFL advisory board.

Cons

• Ngannou is not allowed to fight outside of the PFL for the duration of the deal.
• The PFL has the right to match any offer Ngannou receives from another promotion.
• The PFL is not as well-known as the UFC.
• The PFL has a smaller roster of fighters than the UFC.

He’s not allowed to box?

 

[Question]

A few years ago when Francis just become HW champion he said Jones was ducking him and didn't want that fight, now he's saying Francis is ducking Jones lmao.
Dana White is a fucking imbecile.

 

[Neck&Neck]

BMF belt is worth more than any legit title belt IMO

 

[AmonTobin]

I think you are wrong about the winning formula for the UFC. The winning formula was tournaments with TUF where you got to watch it weekly and get to know the fights. TUF is the primary reason the UFC is what it is today.

Further the UFC model is signing the majority of top talent and convincing the public that winning a UFC belt makes you the best MMA fighter in that weight class in the world. It isn't the matchmaking model, which actually leaves a lot of people pretty frustrated, both fans and fighters.

The fundamental problem with the PFL is no ESPN deal and a very weak brand. Also the million dollar prize didn't generate the excitement they hoped to overcome those problems. It should be noted Bellator isn't really doing any better with the UFC model of matchmaking.

I’m not that keen on TUF (I can’t stand watching the dumber people fighting in a house) but I do love the tournament format. I wish the UFC had more Bellator style tournaments to keep fighters relevant and fresh in our minds despite rankings and the long process of diva matchmaking.

 

[pamirec]

I don't understand how anyone can take this jackass seriously.

Teh Pink G’s personality is always “if you are on my side, I’ll praise you, if you ain’t, I’ll shit on you” and it doesn’t matter whether you are right or wrong.
So damn childish. You’d really think a man doing multi-billion business would be a lot smarter than that.

 

[LouisBolanos]

I think you are wrong about the winning formula for the UFC. The winning formula was tournaments with TUF where you got to watch it weekly and get to know the fights. TUF is the primary reason the UFC is what it is today.

Did you ever watch TUF? 90% of TUF S1 was big brother shenanigans and team elimination challenges. It was a reality show through and through, not a tournament. TUF1, was also merely the tipping point, it got people to tune in. What actually sustained the interest and growth were the Fight Nights and PPVs. TUF hasn't been a relevant driving vehicle for UFC viewership and interest in a decade. You don't build your success formula around early 2000s reality show concepts without the actual reality show.

Further the UFC model is signing the majority of top talent and convincing the public that winning a UFC belt makes you the best MMA fighter in that weight class in the world. It isn't the matchmaking model, which actually leaves a lot of people pretty frustrated, both fans and fighters.

Name me one successful professional MMA or boxing promotion built purely around the tournament format. It doesn't take a genius to figure out this isn't sustainable for a sport where athletes compete low single digit times per year. This has nothing to do with the UFC and its stranglehold on top MMA talent, this is across all prize fighting. There's a reason why PFL is forced to abandon its original stance on pure sports based around tournaments in favor of super fights.

 

[DestinedAussie]

I’m not that keen on TUF (I can’t stand watching the dumber people fighting in a house) but I do love the tournament format. I wish the UFC had more Bellator style tournaments to keep fighters relevant and fresh in our minds despite rankings and the long process of diva matchmaking.

TUF now isn't what it used to be, but back when it started was for so many the introduction to MMA. TUF wasn't just a tournament for MMA in reality show, it was the main advertising method for UFC. It was better advertising than anyone could imagine and they got paid to make it!

TUF is now is a real problem for the UFC. Fighters are too professional, fighters don't need TUF to make UFC so the ones they had in the last series were pretty weak over all.

I would love to see them think outside the box with TUF and how they can reboot the format to reflect how professional MMA is now and instead use fighters currently in the UFC but outside/lower ranked to build the profiles of existing fighters. Lots of the most popular fighters over the years have come from TUF because people get to know them.

 

[AmonTobin]

TUF now isn't what it used to be, but back when it started was for so many the introduction to MMA. TUF wasn't just a tournament for MMA in reality show, it was the main advertising method for UFC. It was better advertising than anyone could imagine and they got paid to make it!

TUF is now is a real problem for the UFC. Fighters are too professional, fighters don't need TUF to make UFC so the ones they had in the last series were pretty weak over all.

I would love to see them think outside the box with TUF and how they can reboot the format to reflect how professional MMA is now and instead use fighters currently in the UFC but outside/lower ranked to build the profiles of existing fighters. Lots of the most popular fighters over the years have come from TUF because people get to know them.

Don’t get me wrong, Season 1 pulled me in deep. I was a lot younger then too though. I liked the idea of gym vs gym but without the goofy cooked up soap opera drama. I also like the country specific ones. The Aussies vs Brits.

 

[DestinedAussie]

Don’t get me wrong, Season 1 pulled me in deep. I was a lot younger then too though. I liked the idea of gym vs gym but without the goofy cooked up soap opera drama. I also like the country specific ones. The Aussies vs Brits.

Yeah I think gym v gym would work well because it is the closest we have to teams in MMA.

I also think the "pranks" are a bit dumb now. Nobody cares and they are just like because they feel they have too. Surely there are better ways to get the fighters to interact. I think it would be cool to see the fighters compete in different games the same way coaches do if they need more material.

 

[SuperAlly]

Further the UFC model is signing the majority of top talent and convincing the public that winning a UFC belt makes you the best MMA fighter in that weight class in the world.

Most of sherdog still struggling to admit that’s largely true because they just irrationally hate the most popular organisation in the sport.

 

[Jason7227]

When Dana says "this guy" instead of calling someone by name, you know he has a disdain for that individual.