News Dan Hardy calls for Jon Jones to be stripped of title, cites Conor Mcgregor precedent

[Objectively Correct]

How the fuck did this happen. Was he her coach?

 

[Kyojiro Kagenuma]

That comparison isn't really relevant. Jones is the GOAT, (probably) looking for a final fight, and Mcgregor obviously isn't close to being GOAT (if not counting fame).

Stripping Jones would look petty as fuck - that is if the Stipe fight actually happens in the fall.

No it wouldn't. It doesn't matter if Jones is a Goat. He's holding up the show.

 

[loisestrad]

No it wouldn't. It doesn't matter if Jones is a Goat. He's holding up the show.

The show is better when it's being hold up.

 

[Poirierfan]

The show is better when it's being hold up.

Lol, omg

 

[jeff7b9]

From a commercial point of view

From a commercial point of view...

the UFC willfully destroying their credibility for a short term pay day is at best a questionable business move and at worst quite retarded.

Spending 20-30 years building a (for the most part) solid brand first reputation just to publicly take a shit on it for one criminal with maybe 1 fight left is in fact retarded.

 

[MrBlackheart]

The show is better when it's being hold up.

Then let’s hold up every division. Let’s see how that affects business.

 

[RedDevilFan]

Firstly I disagree that ANY fighter should get special treatment. No fighter should be so big that they can hold a belt without fighting for almost 2 years.

However, at this point they are already committed. If they strip Jon now, he might not fight in November. And they don't want to risk that, so they won't do it. HOWEVER, if Tom Aspinall wins, it should force Aspinall vs Jones. Stipe should only be fighting Jones if Blaydes wins.

The Stipe fight already was made before either fighter was in the rankings to even fight for an interim belt or a contender. If they want to strip jones because of his injury so be it but they should not get to take the Stipe fight off the books because someone else is crying about it. The person who got injured was Jones and not Stipe. He should fight jones regardless of who wins against Blaydes and Aspinall as it was already booked. If Dana wants to gift them the belt, so be it. Why should Stipe get sidetracked from a previously agreed upon fight because of jones injury.

 

[loisestrad]

Then let’s hold up every division. Let’s see how that affects business.

Obviously not anyone would be allowed to hold up a division.

Jon Jones .is, though. For a while.

 

[Robbocop]

Never cared for Dan Hardy.

As a matter of interest, current UFC fighters 24/5/24 (male divisions only)

HW 37
LHW 34
MW 59
WW 73
LW 103
Featherweight 78
BW 79
Flyweight 42

So heavyweight and light heavyweight have by far the least number of fighters in the UFC out of any male weight divisions. So in some sense, the real slow moving nature of these divisions is because they have hired countlessly many fighters at the handicap divisions rather than HW, and LHW is even more lacking in fighters than HW. Pretty sad really.

 

[Squarechoke]

The comparison makes sense since Jones has nothing on McGregor in terms of star power and both are embarrassments for the sport, although McGregor mostly outside the cage, while Jones' cheating makes the sport less legitimate in the cage as well.

 

[CHUTE_BOXE78]

Simple. There's no such thing as a goat, besides the ones that bleat. If you don't show up for werk, you get terminated from your position you held. People want to see Jon fight an old man, whether or not he(Stipe) can win?

 

[RedDevilFan]

Then let’s hold up every division. Let’s see how that affects business.

The Belts in combat sports is a gimmick. You do not need belts to keep a division going. . If you are a popular fighter with a supportive fan base then you do not really need to worry about obtaining a belt. If you aren't a major draw, then you do need one. Jon Jones does not need the belt so it would be no problem to be stripped because of an injury. Someone like Aspinall who is not a superstar and very well known does.

The reality is that the UFC is a business that makes money and its superstars are the ones it caters too. All businesses cater to its stars and It is the reason Lebron james gets Limos and personal treatment while the scrubs on the bench take a bus. People are talking about UFC credibility but it never had any. Conor Mcgregor makes so much money that the UFC allowed him to box. They have not done that with any other fighter since. Mcgregor has been a bountiful addition to MMA and to the UFC. He is one of the reasons it has made great money. Without their stars the UFC would go broke so they make sure to maximize the star power and money they can make from their stars, and that is part of business.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Dan should leave UFC booking to people who are actually still employed there. Go back to shrieking at refs and threatening their wives, ya plank

 

[Siver!]

Dan should leave UFC booking to people who are actually still employed there. Go back to shrieking at refs and threatening their wives, ya plank

I think his problem is the 'not booking' of the UFC rather than the 'booking'

 

[Oscar Madison]

Dana has The Number that a Jones-Stipe fight is e$timated to make the UFC -- just like Dana knows The Number for the Conor fight.

Doubt that he'll yield to Hardy or Small-Time Mouse because of other less relevant considerations...

 

[Thesnake101]

Never cared for Dan Hardy.

As a matter of interest, current UFC fighters 24/5/24 (male divisions only)

HW 37
LHW 34
MW 59
WW 73
LW 103
Featherweight 78
BW 79
Flyweight 42

So heavyweight and light heavyweight have by far the least number of fighters in the UFC out of any male weight divisions. So in some sense, the real slow moving nature of these divisions is because they have hired countlessly many fighters at the handicap divisions rather than HW, and LHW is even more lacking in fighters than HW. Pretty sad really.

Well, that's simply because LHW and HW suck ass on a global scale.

Jones not defending isn't the biggest issue, after all interim belts have been a very common sight in the UFC for about a decade now, the issue is the fact that the fight being angled doesn't feature the interim champ who will make his first title defense before either of the men involved in the "undisputed" title fight set foot in the cage.

They could've stripped Jon, could've let Tom sit on the sidelines until the title gets vacated (neither Stipe nor Jon plan on fighting again after their fight), or they could've just not made Tom/Sergei an interim title fight. The UFC played it in the stupidest fashion because they're hellbent on adding a title to any fight they can to make it look more marketable.

 

[Oddmonster]

Jones got injured. The Stipe fight would have already happened if he didn't.

Had Jones been 27 and not had the legacy that he actually does have (fighting wise), well, of course he should be stripped.

Cut the GOAT some slack for his final fight, and feel free to consider Aspinall the actual champ.

So lets say Jon gets "injured" again - how many years can he sit out while holding up the HW division? Forever?

The biggest problem here is that there are no specific rules about when people get stripped because of inactivity.

 

[CHUTE_BOXE78]

Maybe he´s right. But it seems Miocic wouldn´t fight Jones without the belt and riding as a champ into the sunset. Which is a possibility.

No matter what: it seems also both will do that after the fight. And Aspinall will be the rightfull champ anyway if he beats Blaydes this time.

So the new guy, Tom, can't do what all the Jones lovers post about? Tom can't have his time/chance to dethrone teh champion? Seems curious, but what do it even knows?

 

[TerrorTimmy]

dan hardy salty asf that cant win a belt
lmao

Nothing about this was salty. He's retired.

But please, anonymous internet forum poster, list your life achievements that you have definitely done that make it possible for you to look down on a guy who was among the best combat athletes in the world in his weight class for several years.

I'll wait.

 

[jsbx45]

InB4

You do seem to cry alot.