Media Aspinall says he's ready to fight but Jones is holding things up; reiterates that he will retire Jones without fighting him

[Sticko]

We haven't seen his defensive grappling even one time in the UFC.

That's true. I have no idea if Tom is good off his back. But we've seen his offensive grappling several times. He subbed Volkov by first-round straight armbar for crying out loud. Tom is a legit BJJ black belt.

 

[ShadowRun]

Just dumb in an almost uncountable amount of ways:

Tom fought November on weeks notice because Jon couldn't.

Part of the delay for Tom was because Tom was interim champ by that point, which normally shouldn't have to defend.

The other side of that coin is that Tom's fight scheduling from there depended completely on Jones, so pointing out any delay of Tom's is still really just on Jones.

Additionally, Tom's opponent selection without Jon was actually a question mark, unsure if it would be Blaydes or Gane, so negotiations would have to be done for both, whereas Jon only has Tom in front of him, so that's another hurdle Tom had that Jon didn't.

Tom's average time between fights up until his most recent one has been 6 months  including his injury. Typically, when healthy, he's fighting less than 5 months after his last fight on average, which if we were applying to Jon here, like you're trying to, that would put this fight before April's end. You might notice that April is already booked full, meaning we're well into "this should have been announced by now" territory.

You're wrong, Tom won the interim in Nov 2023, he didn't defend it then.

 

[Xanzito]

Jones is maybe the GOAT, but right now he's the DUCK. I can't remember ever seeing a duck this egregious. Aspinal will break the record of IC defenses before Jones rolls over and retires.

 

[Elegant]

This entire post is embarrassingly desperate.

Nice rebuttal sped ape

 

[Vigfree]

How much you wanna bet all of your entire post histories are filled with Jones hate/pushing any anti Jones narrative

You’re all disgustingly biased and it’s embarrassing, do you realize how stupid you all sound when you say Jones should take a lose/lose fight instead of the easier money fight with Pereira or retire on top as the globally recognized GOAT, admit you just don’t like Jones and think with emotion instead of logic.

You’re all desperately praying to get a Jones KO gif to spam at near 40 years of age vs a bigger guy in his prime yet it just won’t happen.

It's possible to hold this against Jon without hating him.
He's holding up the HW division through injuries, not fighting the interim champ, and in a spot where he doesn't have a great claim to be the undisputed champ anyways.
Tom has had to wait around and even defended the interim belt against someone else because the champ fought NOT the interim belt holder (Stipe). And now after that, still won't sign to fight the interim champ.
Anyone reasonable would be fine if Jones just vacated. If he doesn't want to fight Aspinall, then just drop the HW belt and move on. But Jones is an egotistical prick it appears and can't do that.
It's that simple.

But if you want to get in to the weeds more:
He's beaten 2 heavyweights. Gane & an already retired 42yo Stipe. Impressive, but not nearly as impressive as Aspinall's body of work.
Tom has beaten tougher competition at HW & more competition at HW. He has a better claim to be HW champ IMO than Jones does. (Remember the lineal champ was Ngannou and he left the org... the Gane-Jones fight is imo less meaningful then the Aspinall-Pavlovich fight).

Jones fans are absolutely delusional at this point about what an asshole their guy has become. There are a zillion other examples of honorable fighters vacating when injured (Jiri, Hill)... or even just moving up (Ilia). Jones is being a douche, fucking up the division - and at this point he deserves all the smoke he's getting.

Even fans of his should be disappointed in his behavior. If you're not you have some sort of mental problem.

And FWIW it's also partially on the UFC/Dana for allowing Jones to do this.

 

[CasualBot]

Nice rebuttal sped ape

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

Nice rebuttal sped ape

This just in, pigeon who shat on chess board declares all countermoves insufficient, pretends he won match. More at 11

 

[Elegant]

It's possible to hold this against Jon without hating him.
He's holding up the HW division through injuries, not fighting the interim champ, and in a spot where he doesn't have a great claim to be the undisputed champ anyways.
Tom has had to wait around and even defended the interim belt against someone else because the champ fought NOT the interim belt holder (Stipe). And now after that, still won't sign to fight the interim champ.
Anyone reasonable would be fine if Jones just vacated. If he doesn't want to fight Aspinall, then just drop the HW belt and move on. But Jones is an egotistical prick it appears and can't do that.
It's that simple.

But if you want to get in to the weeds more:
He's beaten 2 heavyweights. Gane & an already retired 42yo Stipe. Impressive, but not nearly as impressive as Aspinall's body of work.
Tom has beaten tougher competition at HW & more competition at HW. He has a better claim to be HW champ IMO than Jones does. (Remember the lineal champ was Ngannou and he left the org... the Gane-Jones fight is imo less meaningful then the Aspinall-Pavlovich fight).

Jones fans are absolutely delusional at this point about what an asshole their guy has become. There are a zillion other examples of honorable fighters vacating when injured (Jiri, Hill)... or even just moving up (Ilia). Jones is being a douche, fucking up the division - and at this point he deserves all the smoke he's getting.

Even fans of his should be disappointed in his behavior. If you're not you have some sort of mental problem.

And FWIW it's also partially on the UFC/Dana for allowing Jones to do this.

He isn't holding up anything, his intentions are clear and refusing to see them just shows an obvious hate bias

This whole time he's expressed interest in facing Pereira (and Pereira has expressed interest in fighting Jones for the HW title as well)





Tom Aspinall isn't entitled to a fight with Jones just because he has the interim title, he is however entitled to a HW title fight for the vacant HW title once Jones has had his well deserved retirement fight vs Pereira (assuming he beats Ankalaev) or when he vacates the title if Pereira loses and the fight is no longer as interesting

There is no reward in beating Aspinall for Jones, if he wins you guys will say he was an unproven bum and fraud like you all did with Gane, and if he loses at the age of 40 way past his prime you'll all say Jones was never good and was always overrated etc

Jones vs Pereira is a much more massive PPV fight, easier fight for Jones, and significantly more lucrative. If you were Jones why the fuck would you take more difficult AND less paying fight against Aspinall?

Whether you like it or not Jones has paid his dues, fought the best of the best for years, and has nothing to prove. He's earned the right to cherry pick a fight now that he old, passed his prime, and has one fight left.

Unless you just hate Jones, this is all common sense.

 

[Elegant]

This just in, pigeon who shat on chess board declares all countermoves insufficient, pretends he won match. More at 11

The femboy can only think with emotion, not logic, it is what it is.

 

[Frode Falch]

Fight wont happen, Aspinall needs to DEMAND for fights, defend the Interim belt as many times as it makes it seem ridiculous, Jones isnt fighting him, the more he fights the more basis he will have to be promoted to Undisputed.


Its on the pointless end of fights, yes, but if there is a superfight in UFC history, is this one, many obvious factors about it, pointless as far as the division goes? Yes, but still a fight to make good numbers for the UFC.

Jones fought 4 months ago, we are still early for stripping talk even if said fight was supposed to happen 1 year before.

He dont need to fight today. But at least sign a future date.

At least

 

[AmonTobin]

Jon Jones is a

 

[AMAZINGUFC]

It's the UFC's fault, Aspinall's team needs to put pressure on them to either strip Jones or book another fight for Tom.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

It's the UFC's fault, Aspinall's team needs to put pressure on them to either strip Jones or book another fight for Tom.

The latter shouldn't happen without the former

 

[Marko Polo]

Jones if a big fat phoney. He’s 37 years old talking about Aspinall as if he’s 80

 

[AMAZINGUFC]

The latter shouldn't happen without the former

Interim has already defended twice, Aspinall should demand it. If he doesn't demand it, if he doesn't annoy them, the UFC might think it's fine like that.

 

[ThaiSexPills]

He's negotiating. We don't know if Jon is ducking or not. Maybe he sees a big payday.

Personally, and no offense, but trying to imply someone who's had 30 MMA fights and won 17 title fights is "scared" of anyone is a little retarded. That doesn't really logically compute my friend.

If he wasn’t scared, he’d take the fight. It’s his duty as champ to take the fight. Anyone else would have been stripped 2 years ago. The past is the past, we’re talking now and he’s facing a younger, bigger, stronger opponent.

He used negotiators to avoid Francis. As soon as Francis left, he suddenly slid into a fight against a guy with no grappling for 1/10 what he wanted to fight Francis. You can’t still believe Jon isn’t scared can you?

He should have been stripped after Tom defended his interim belt.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

Interim has already defended twice, Aspinall should demand it. If he doesn't demand it, if he doesn't annoy them, the UFC might think it's fine like that.

Right, that's why I'm saying Tom shouldn't have to be booked for another fight until Jon is stripped

 

[jsbx45]

Its James Tony vs Couture all over again.

If Toney fought the guys Alex has been fighting he likely would beat all of them too.

I like Alex. He's my favorite active fighter but I'm not delusional. Anyone 205 or higher with grappling and fight IQ subs him fast. Thing is for the most part they don't exist anymore

No it isn't. Not even close. Your glossing over a huge reason why these two fights that we're talking about are not even close to the same. Periera is the Champ in an MMA orgnization. MIXED MARTIAL ARTS. Say it With Me Now. Shotty fight? Come on man, its champ vs champ.

 

[CasualBot]

He isn't holding up anything, his intentions are clear and refusing to see them just shows an obvious hate bias

This whole time he's expressed interest in facing Pereira (and Pereira has expressed interest in fighting Jones for the HW title as well)





Tom Aspinall isn't entitled to a fight with Jones just because he has the interim title, he is however entitled to a HW title fight for the vacant HW title once Jones has had his well deserved retirement fight vs Pereira (assuming he beats Ankalaev) or when he vacates the title if Pereira loses and the fight is no longer as interesting

There is no reward in beating Aspinall for Jones, if he wins you guys will say he was an unproven bum and fraud like you all did with Gane, and if he loses at the age of 40 way past his prime you'll all say Jones was never good and was always overrated etc

Jones vs Pereira is a much more massive PPV fight, easier fight for Jones, and significantly more lucrative. If you were Jones why the fuck would you take more difficult AND less paying fight against Aspinall?

Whether you like it or not Jones has paid his dues, fought the best of the best for years, and has nothing to prove. He's earned the right to cherry pick a fight now that he old, passed his prime, and has one fight left.

Unless you just hate Jones, this is all common sense.

Desperate as fuck.

 

[Domitian]

That's true. I have no idea if Tom is good off his back. But we've seen his offensive grappling several times. He subbed Volkov by first-round straight armbar for crying out loud. Tom is a legit BJJ black belt.

He probably is a legit black belt. Jon has fought plenty of legit black belts. As I said, his grappling would be tested by one of the greatest MMA wrestlers ever, not somebody like Volkov.

For crying out loud.