Rumored Alex Pereira Fighting in March?; Rogan Says Poatan using Ramadan return date to mess w/ Ankalaev

[Spacebadger]

Alex Pereira is a Muslim / Close thread / Ankalaev is a clown.

 

[legedema]

Ankalaev fought in march before, in 2022 to be exact. What's different this time? Yeah.

Also it's amazing how some idiots think that the guy would literally fight the next day after ramadan is over. He will demand time for at least a 2-3 month camp after Ramadan is over and then you would have Pereira (the fucking champion of the divison, mind you) doing absolutely nothing until june/july to accomodate the needs of some mongoloid diva.

Don't kid yourselves, Ankalaev is a scam artist. Some of you are just too dumb to see it. Dude turned down this fight MULTIPLE TIMES.

guess it was not Ramadan in 2022 , Ramadan always comes back 10 days every year

 

[Iroh]

Yes, They should

Nah, they should have a better understanding of personal responsibility.

You can let the UFC or your management handle everything, but that doesn't mean you are absolved from responsibility. You choose to let them handle your career, that's your choice, your responsibility.

He also still has to agree with every step they make him do, they can't force him. He is still free to object or come with alternative ideas, at every turn, but supposedly doesn't do so.

You don't just get to hide behind the company or your management and pretend you can't help the way your career is managed, while you really can, but just don't choose to do it.

 

[Istryker]

What's Portuguese for duck?
Chama?

 

[Kevster]

Why are so many people continuing to ignore that Ank said he would beat Pereira in March, it’s on his dam social media,

 

[RockyLockridge]

Nah, they should have a better understanding of personal responsibility.

You can let the UFC or your management handle everything, but that doesn't mean you are absolved from responsibility. You choose to let them handle your career, that's your choice, your responsibility.

He also still has to agree with every step they make him do, they can't force him. He is still free to object or come with alternative ideas, at every turn, but supposedly doesn't do so.

You don't just get to hide behind the company or your management and pretend you can't help the way your career is managed, while you really can, but just don't choose to do it.

I just don't know what to say about any of this if the UFC asks him to fight in march he's supposed to say "No thanks, I'll only fight ankalaev. No matter how long it takes"?

Reason why people like Alex is because he's not a picky diva that makes ridiculous demands like ankalaev. He's never ever been picky about who he fights or when, but now all of a sudden he absolutely should be "personally responsible" for who he fights


It's crazy to me.

 

[Aldo145]

Krylov or Jan inc

 

[Fergelmince]

Yes, you shouldn't blame Alex for it.

I've said this several times that fighters involved with Ali Abdel-Aziz have weird happenings.

I Firmly believe that deals are brokered between the the UFC and Ali. Things like "give Islam Porier because Porier is a draw, I'll have ankalaev fight someone else and you can keep poatan champion."

I found it strange that the UFC booked Armen gaethje and charles knowing islam needed a fight, his only option would be a short turn around Porier. The UFC knew Islam would need an opponent, but still booked the number 1 2 and 3 LW to fight on the same night, KNOWING the next option would be a short turn around bsd/porier winner. They CLEARLY knew what they are doing when they did this.


Then Comes Alex vs Roundtree Jr, same month as Anakalev. Why? Because The UFC gave Ali Porier, And asked to keep Anakalev away from Poatan because Ankalaev is bad for business. Poatan is the number 1 highest merch sales for the UFC. they dont want him to lose to anakalev. It has nothing to do with Alex or what he wants. Nothing to do with Anakalev either. I firmly believe the answer lies with The business dealings of Ali and the UFC. Alis fighters often get exceptional treatment, like umar getting the sandhagen fight, and now a title shot. I'm Sure the UFC asks for SOMETHING in return. I'm sure the UFC asks him to convince his fighters to take fights that hold them back as an exchange. The common denominator between islam/porier and Alex/anakalev is Ali. I did not hear a single thing from Ali about roundtree jr fight being an outrage, did you? He's on social media saying retarded shit like "Islam can beat dricus and poatan." but nothing like "anakalev not getting this title fight is an injustice"


you have ZERO reason to blame Alex. Weird things are happening in the UFC more and more often and it's more often surrounding Ali's fighters. I can't JUST look at Alex.

Agreed. There are definitely negotiations like this that happen.

The head scratcher is that ankalaev has to know abdelziz is working with the UFC to keep him away from Pereira. So how is abdelziz persuading ankalaev NOT to push for a title fight or dump abdelziz as a manager/agent?

 

[Iroh]

I just don't know what to say about any of this if the UFC asks him to fight in march he's supposed to say "No thanks, I'll only fight ankalaev. No matter how long it takes"?

He could have said long ago, make the Ank fight happen. Simple as that.
So keep Ramadan in mind when y'all are planning who fights when, where and against whom. Not that he'd have to make that clear to the UFC, they know already.

Reason why people like Alex is because he's not a picky diva that makes ridiculous demands like ankalaev.

Yeah, you don't have to be picky, if the company only gives you easy stylistic match ups.

It's like saying you are not a picky eater, because you always have a chef make you exactly what you like to eat.

He's never ever been picky about who he fights or when, but now all of a sudden he absolutely should be "personally responsible" for who he fights

I never said he should be picky, I'm saying he has shared responsibility over who he fights, but you act like there is 0 accountability on his side. You not only act like it, I'm pretty sure you said it. Which is just plain wrong and likely naive.

If he doesn't mind a legacy that is largely definied by him just getting easy stylistic match ups and not fighting the number one contender that is also a harder stylistic match up, then he should just keep on enjoying his protection.

If he actually wants to prove he is the best MMA fighter in his division and his success is not just dependent on the protection he has enjoyed, he should probably ask for Ank or even Khamzat, Jon or Aspinall (to some degree, not the best in his division part,).

It's crazy to me.

It's because you are only half getting what I'm saying.


Also fighting the toughest fights out there is hardly considered being picky, only by people such as you who need to make it sound as unflattering as possible to fit their agenda of defending the fighter they are a fan of.

Normal MMA fans see it as badass if a fighter seeks out the hardest fights, and tries to prove their skillset is well rounded enough for what MMA generally can throw at them, and not just glorified kickboxing fights in an MMA settting.

 

[italiamusica]

So he's looking for another reason to duck?

 

[RockyLockridge]

The head scratcher is that ankalaev has to know abdelziz is working with the UFC to keep him away from Pereira. So how is abdelziz persuading ankalaev NOT to push for a title fight or dump abdelziz as a manager/agent?

I think Ali just waves his fees, or takes a small portion of all the other fighters fees and greeses him that way.

You would think Ali would be very vocal about the unfair treatment of his fighter not getting the opportunities he deserves. He is very vocal about many other things. Interesting how mum he is about this.

He has plenty of time to go online and yap about how Islam could be mw champion but says nothing about the UFC robbing his fighter of very clearly earned opportunities

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

So he's looking for another reason to duck?

Which one of them has ducked on record again?

 

[RockyLockridge]

Normal MMA fans see it as badass if a fighter seeks out the hardest fights, and tries to prove their skillset is well rounded enough for what MMA generally can throw at them, and not just glorified kickboxing fights in an MMA settting.

Alex doesn't seek anyone he just fights who he is told and he always has. So for him to seek anyone would be out of character

 

[Iroh]

Alex doesn't seek anyone he just fights who he is told and he always has. So for him to seek anyone would be out of character

That doesn't make it a bad thing.

 

[Striker Fox]

Krylov or Jan inc

Jan is already booked (42 years old coming off double shoulder surgery hasn't fought in two years), so it looks like the top two options on win streaks who might be available in March could be Krylov (hasn't fought for two years) and Reyes lol

 

[RockyLockridge]

That doesn't make it a bad thing.

Because analaev is the fighter you like you want Alex to change what he's been doing what has made him popular and successful to appease the match making you'd like to see

 

[Iroh]

Because analaev is the fighter you like you want Alex to change what he's been doing what has made him popular and successful to appease the match making you'd like to see

Nah, because I like the sport to retain and rebuild as much integrity as possible, instead of keep losing integrity.

I'm an Alex fan, just not an Alex nuthugger. It's hard for some people to understand that you can be a fan of a fighter, but still not like certain things they do.

 

[don't ask]

by telling me which grappling threats he's yet to encounter, and why you think he's avoiding them. Seems like there is only one, and this "One" is this one that has turned the fight down twice.

Jan Tried to grapple with him and lost. Jan Grappled with izzy and won. So there, he's fought someone using grappling in the opening seconds of the first round and still won.

so where does this "suspicion" that he's "ducking" these "grapplers" come from?


Jiri Subbed glover. He's also gotten up off the floor against glover SEVERAL times (jan, santos and smith could not get up from glover ONCE) . so his grappling is at least okay. Hill finished santos on the ground. but nothing against alex.

Stop being illiterate. I told you what my opinion of the situation is and you're reading things into it that I don't believe or say. At this point, what's the point of even talking to you if you're making up words that I'm not saying.

 

[don't ask]

https://www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/mag...ight-booked-and-its-not-against-alex-pereira/

^^^ That was back in August. Alex had fought in July against Jiri and was planning to rest for the remaining 6 months of the year, which was fair enough considering he'd had 5 fights in the previous 14 months.

Then the UFC were clearly struggling with 307. Not that I'm complaining about WMMA, but they had 4 girl fights. 2 on the prelims, one to open the main card, and they would have had to have had Pena/Rocky headlining unless they got something else. That would have been a hard sell to the majority of the fan base, especially the casuals.

So they got Alex and Hill in there.

That link is appreciated, but doesn't clear up the issue for me. I'm not aware of the 307 car suddenly losing their main event, so the UFC had known for awhile it was weak and it's extremely likely they were matchmaking Perreira's fight for it at the same time they were putting together Ank vs Rakic.

I think it's unfair to say he's taking short notice fights because they're giving him inferior strikers. It's not his fault they can't strike as well as him.

And if it isn't these guys he fought, who is it? And I mean apart from Ank.

The "he only fights strikers" criticism falls flat for me once I look at the rankings. The only decent grapplers there are Jan, Nikita, Menifield, and Smith, and the latter two aren't even that good at it. Jan he already beat and Nikita doesn't make any sense either.

There were more options at MW, but even none of those options were great wrestling powerhouses. It feels like Alex's critics can't take him seriously unless he fights the Khabib of LHW/MW, but that guy doesn't even exist.

Maybe Chimaev would have been that guy, but he can either barely make a fight or comes in way overweight.

The worst thing is that if Alex/Ank happens, Ank is probably going to just stand and strike anyway lol. He has always been way more focused on striking than grappling. If that happens and Alex wins, everyone is still going to be saying he never fought a striker, but at that point there won't be any other options.



Yeh, I agree. My point is that Ank should just keep forcing the issue. He'll get his shot eventually. It's not like the UFC don't agree either. They have him as the no.1 contender on their site. Those rankings aren't decided by the media either like the UFC says lol. They control those. I've seen them do dodgy shit in line with upcoming fighters they want to push.



Maybe it says he doesn't really care about any of that. As fans, we like to see it, and we expect it, but that doesn't mean the fighters all care about being some legitimate champ.

I mean look at Conor. He never gave a fuck about being some highly proven champ. Topuria is the same now as well. Had one defense and lost all motivation to defend lol.

I feel like it's way different these days compared to when Silva, GSP, and Mighty Mouse were racking up as many defenses as possible. Being the champ doesn't mean anywhere near as much as it used to, and you can make more money doing other things.

Alex might just want to fight and get paid at this point. If that means avoiding the Ank fight and taking the big money fight at HW, then that's what might happen.

And it's not even that out of character for Alex. He could have easily gotten a rematch with Izzy after he lost if he pushed hard enough. Instead he just gave up and left for LHW.

Same sort of thing in Glory. Lost the belt via split decision and bailed.

I really think he cares way less about being the champ than you would like to see out of him.

At the end of the day, Perreira might never fight someone who presents him a grappling threat to overcome, it might not be his fault, and I might be the only person in the world who cares that we never got an answer, I fully acknowledge this. But if we never get an answer, I'm not going to pretend that he proved himself as a legit mixed martial artist.

OMG I didn't realize. You're the one I converted to the Octopus fan club!

Still breaks my heart what happened to her. Glad that cheating Pirnie girl got what was coming to her and lost her next fight easily lol.

It's been way too long since the Octopus fought too.

Hahahaha yes, I'm the dude that fell in love with Octopus after you posted that 40 minute highlight reel of madness. I was heartbroken when she lost that fight and I can't wait to see her fight again.

 

[andgonsil]

Pereira will fight Volkov