Rumored Alex Pereira Fighting in March?; Rogan Says Poatan using Ramadan return date to mess w/ Ankalaev

How would you like me to express this?
by telling me which grappling threats he's yet to encounter, and why you think he's avoiding them. Seems like there is only one, and this "One" is this one that has turned the fight down twice.

Jan Tried to grapple with him and lost. Jan Grappled with izzy and won. So there, he's fought someone using grappling in the opening seconds of the first round and still won.

so where does this "suspicion" that he's "ducking" these "grapplers" come from?


Jiri Subbed glover. He's also gotten up off the floor against glover SEVERAL times (jan, santos and smith could not get up from glover ONCE) . so his grappling is at least okay. Hill finished santos on the ground. but nothing against alex.
 
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by telling me which grappling threats he's yet to encounter, and why you think he's avoiding them. Seems like there is only one, and this "One" is this one that has turned the fight down twice.

Jan Tried to grapple with him and lost. Jan Grappled with izzy and won. So there he's fought, someone using grappling in the opening seconds of the first round and still won.

so where does this "suspicion" that he's "ducking" these "grapplers" come from?


Jiri Subbed glover. He's also gotten up off the floor against glover SEVERAL times (jan, santos and smith could not get up from glover ONCE) . so his grappling is at least okay. Hill finished santos on the ground. but nothing against alex.
Every time someone says Alex avoids grapplers, I ask them who he was protected from, which uber dominant grappler in the two divisions he's fought, and the best people got is Marvin Vettori
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They pine for some boring NCAA smother wrestler to come out of the woodwork to lay on the most exciting champion we've had in the last decade, for some reason. This is still unclear to me.

At MW: Brunson and Cannonier (the only decent arguments I've heard) were fighting eachother for a title shot a few months before Poatan was fighting Strickland (Izzy vs Jared card).

He fought and defeated the best grappler at 205 division, Jan (close, contested split decision, but a win regardless).

Also, a reminder that Ankalaev is a middling grappler (bad by Dagestani standards).

Ankalaev Grappling Stats:

1 TD per fight on average, 30% TD accuracy <lol>
2/10 against Jan.
1/4 against mighty wrestler Volkan Oezdimir.
1/2 against post-exploded-knees Thiago Santos.
1/3 against Klidson Abreu (who???)
1/3 against Dalcha Lungiambula (literally who?)
Got taken down by Paul Craig twice, then submitted.
 
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Every time someone says Alex avoids grapplers, I ask them who he was protected from, which uber dominant grappler in the two divisions he's fought, and the best people got is Marvin Vettori
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They pine for some boring NCAA smother wrestler to come out of the woodwork to lay on the most exciting champion we've had in the last decade, for some reason. This is still unclear to me.

He fought and defeated the best grappler in the division, Jan (close, contested split decision, but a win regardless).

Also, a reminder that Ankalaev is a middling grappler (bad by Dagestani standards).

Ankalaev Grappling Stats:

1 TD per fight on average, 30% TD accuracy <lol>
2/10 against Jan.
1/4 against mighty wrestler Volkan Oezdimir.
1/2 against post-exploded-knees Thiago Santos.
1/3 against Klidson Abreu (who???)
1/3 against Dalcha Lungiambula (literally who?)
Got taken down by Paul Craig twice, then submitted.
I've said it a dozen times on this site, but i'll say it again. People see a Russian Muslim with no mustache and assume they can grapple for some reason. It's actually racism lmao. Like seeing a black guy and assuming he can run fast.
 
Whatever helps you sleep better at night. Even if you believe he is not elite, he is fully capable of taking down Poatan at will and maul him. That is a fact no one should deny.
Ok his TDD accuracy is 30% you should maybe look into his grappling stats before you make that statement

broken down 2 posts above this one
 
Also, a reminder that Ankalaev is a middling grappler (bad by Dagestani standards).

Ankalaev Grappling Stats:

1 TD per fight on average, 30% TD accuracy <lol>
2/10 against Jan.
1/4 against mighty wrestler Volkan Oezdimir.
1/2 against post-exploded-knees Thiago Santos.
1/3 against Klidson Abreu (who???)
1/3 against Dalcha Lungiambula (literally who?)
Got taken down by Paul Craig twice, then submitted.
In his last six fights over three years, more than 2/3 of Ankalaev's control time has been in the championship rounds against two fighters with legendarily bad cardio (otherwise he's averaging only about 30 seconds a round; I'd calculate back further, but whats the point?) and he's never attempted a submission in the UFC. I think it's safe to say that Alex is not afraid of Ankalaev's grappling.
 
I'm going to need a source for this. If you're correct, I'll stop criticizing Alex for fighting Rountree instead of Ank

https://www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/mag...ight-booked-and-its-not-against-alex-pereira/

^^^ That was back in August. Alex had fought in July against Jiri and was planning to rest for the remaining 6 months of the year, which was fair enough considering he'd had 5 fights in the previous 14 months.

Then the UFC were clearly struggling with 307. Not that I'm complaining about WMMA, but they had 4 girl fights. 2 on the prelims, one to open the main card, and they would have had to have had Pena/Rocky headlining unless they got something else. That would have been a hard sell to the majority of the fan base, especially the casuals.

So they got Alex and Hill in there.

It's hard to know what to be pissy at Alex for because I can't even tell if he's a manufactured champ and mixed martial artist or if he's legit. But the longer he's fed nothing but strikers, the more criticism he's going to get from me. There are other parties that also deserve criticism, but Alex is most definitely not exempt.

It's pretty obvious that he's taking all kinds of fights at short notice because they're feeding him inferior strikers, so that most definitely does not put him above suspicion he's ducking grapplers.

I think it's unfair to say he's taking short notice fights because they're giving him inferior strikers. It's not his fault they can't strike as well as him.

And if it isn't these guys he fought, who is it? And I mean apart from Ank.

The "he only fights strikers" criticism falls flat for me once I look at the rankings. The only decent grapplers there are Jan, Nikita, Menifield, and Smith, and the latter two aren't even that good at it. Jan he already beat and Nikita doesn't make any sense either.

There were more options at MW, but even none of those options were great wrestling powerhouses. It feels like Alex's critics can't take him seriously unless he fights the Khabib of LHW/MW, but that guy doesn't even exist.

Maybe Chimaev would have been that guy, but he can either barely make a fight or comes in way overweight.

The worst thing is that if Alex/Ank happens, Ank is probably going to just stand and strike anyway lol. He has always been way more focused on striking than grappling. If that happens and Alex wins, everyone is still going to be saying he never fought a striker, but at that point there won't be any other options.

There are absolutely no doubts that Ankalaev is the most deserving contender. Any doubts that might exist are about other questions, but not that one.

Yeh, I agree. My point is that Ank should just keep forcing the issue. He'll get his shot eventually. It's not like the UFC don't agree either. They have him as the no.1 contender on their site. Those rankings aren't decided by the media either like the UFC says lol. They control those. I've seen them do dodgy shit in line with upcoming fighters they want to push.

It absolutely says something about him if he never legitimizes himself as a champion and a mixed martial artist.

Maybe it says he doesn't really care about any of that. As fans, we like to see it, and we expect it, but that doesn't mean the fighters all care about being some legitimate champ.

I mean look at Conor. He never gave a fuck about being some highly proven champ. Topuria is the same now as well. Had one defense and lost all motivation to defend lol.

I feel like it's way different these days compared to when Silva, GSP, and Mighty Mouse were racking up as many defenses as possible. Being the champ doesn't mean anywhere near as much as it used to, and you can make more money doing other things.

Alex might just want to fight and get paid at this point. If that means avoiding the Ank fight and taking the big money fight at HW, then that's what might happen.

And it's not even that out of character for Alex. He could have easily gotten a rematch with Izzy after he lost if he pushed hard enough. Instead he just gave up and left for LHW.

Same sort of thing in Glory. Lost the belt via split decision and bailed.

I really think he cares way less about being the champ than you would like to see out of him.

lol tbf nobody should enjoy my posts, but I genuinely look forward to your contributions in the ONE PBP threads and discussions.

OMG I didn't realize. You're the one I converted to the Octopus fan club!

Still breaks my heart what happened to her. Glad that cheating Pirnie girl got what was coming to her and lost her next fight easily lol.

It's been way too long since the Octopus fought too.
 
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At least he didn't get dropped and nearly lose the fight to him like pereira with khalil
Neither did Alex lol
Are you talking about the slip he had on his question mark kick? Because if you are, you are an incredibly low IQ fan to frame it that way.
 
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Pereira fans in absolute shambles in this thread

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Can't wait for Pereira to fight Anthony Smith for another merit based title defense. <lol>

Couldn't understand taking a side when all you have is what the ufc drip feeds you through the joe rogan experience. It's a traveling circus and they control it no matter how much you people argue about privilege. You could be treated like royalty one moment then fed to the sharks the next.

That said, it looks like they want to milk at least another ppv out Pereira before they even think about chancing it with Ankalaev. You can't blame them, it would be foolish to let the mustacheless militia just takeover without resistance. It's going to happen anyway.
 
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Neither did Alex lol
Are you talking about the slip he had on his question mark kick? Because if you are, you are an incredibly low IQ fan to frame it that way.
Alex was down 2 rounds and Khalil was landing big shots in round 2, he landed a right hook on the temple that partially dropped alex(alex was off balance but the hook landed clean on his head causing him to fall and it was clearly a big shot) and he headkicked alex at the end of round 2. Alex usually smokes guys in 1-2 rounds like Jiri or Jamahal so him losing the first 2 rounds and getting hurt in moments is significant, if any other champion fought the #8 ranked guy and struggled they would be criticized beyond belief but Alex just gets a pass
 
Alex was down 2 rounds and Khalil was landing big shots in round 2, he landed a right hook on the temple that partially dropped alex(alex was off balance but the hook landed clean on his head causing him to fall and it was clearly a big shot) and he headkicked alex at the end of round 2. Alex usually smokes guys in 1-2 rounds like Jiri or Jamahal so him losing the first 2 rounds and getting hurt in moments is significant, if any other champion fought the #8 ranked guy and struggled they would be criticized beyond belief but Alex just gets a pass
Pantoja fought erceg and had a hard time. TJ Dillashaw fought soto and had a hard time. Jones beat DC and gus easier than he beat Smith or Santos. Styles make fights and despite rankings people will have harder times with different match ups.

Izzy beat Whittaker twice and lost to Sean freaking Strickland who couldn't beat cannonier, whom Izzy walked though. As you watch the sport a little bit more you'll soon realize numbers next to a name aren't everything
 
Pantoja fought erceg and had a hard time. TJ Dillashaw fought soto and had a hard time. Styles make fights and despite rankings people will have harder times with different match ups.

Izzy beat Whittaker twice and lost to Sean freaking Strickland who couldn't beat cannonier, whom Izzy walked though. As you watch the sport a little bit more you'll soon realize numbers next to a name aren't everything
Pantoja fought Erceg when no one else was available, Izzy fought strickland when DDP couldn't make a quick turnaround, Pereira fought rountree even though Ankalaev was available and literally able to fight that same month. Him fighting someone other than the #1 contender and struggling is what makes it look bad.
 
Pantoja fought Erceg when no one else was available, Izzy fought strickland when DDP couldn't make a quick turnaround, Pereira fought rountree even though Ankalaev was available and literally able to fight that same month. Him fighting someone other than the #1 contender and struggling is what makes it look bad.
He fought Rountree on short notice, something that Ank would never do.
 
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