Rumored Alex Pereira Fighting in March?; Rogan Says Poatan using Ramadan return date to mess w/ Ankalaev

I actually think it's completely fine to miss a fight for a religious event the afterlife is forever, after all.

But I don't think they should simultaneously have people saying poatan is avoiding anyone or that a title fight should be reserved for ankalaev.

Even last year when ank fights January, turns down UFC 300, and Alex fights again at 303, why should ank get to wait while Alex has to defend twice? Alex would be expected to fight on 3 month turn around everyone is okay with the challenger having a lay off 3 times as long.
Agreed. But Pereria isn't normal nobody but prime Izzy as a chsmp fights that much. If a champ fights twice a year consider yourself fortunate as that's usually the most. then agsin I don't know any other fighter that in a rolling year fights 4 times- wins belt and defends 3 times all knockouts vs killers.
 
That literally has nothing to do with my point. Are you just conceding my point and trying to convince me I shouldn't blame Alex for it?
Yes, you shouldn't blame Alex for it.

I've said this several times that fighters involved with Ali Abdel-Aziz have weird happenings.

I Firmly believe that deals are brokered between the the UFC and Ali. Things like "give Islam Porier because Porier is a draw, I'll have ankalaev fight someone else and you can keep poatan champion."

I found it strange that the UFC booked Armen gaethje and charles knowing islam needed a fight, his only option would be a short turn around Porier. The UFC knew Islam would need an opponent, but still booked the number 1 2 and 3 LW to fight on the same night, KNOWING the next option would be a short turn around bsd/porier winner. They CLEARLY knew what they are doing when they did this.


Then Comes Alex vs Roundtree Jr, same month as Anakalev. Why? Because The UFC gave Ali Porier, And asked to keep Anakalev away from Poatan because Ankalaev is bad for business. Poatan is the number 1 highest merch sales for the UFC. they dont want him to lose to anakalev. It has nothing to do with Alex or what he wants. Nothing to do with Anakalev either. I firmly believe the answer lies with The business dealings of Ali and the UFC. Alis fighters often get exceptional treatment, like umar getting the sandhagen fight, and now a title shot. I'm Sure the UFC asks for SOMETHING in return. I'm sure the UFC asks him to convince his fighters to take fights that hold them back as an exchange. The common denominator between islam/porier and Alex/anakalev is Ali. I did not hear a single thing from Ali about roundtree jr fight being an outrage, did you? He's on social media saying retarded shit like "Islam can beat dricus and poatan." but nothing like "anakalev not getting this title fight is an injustice"


you have ZERO reason to blame Alex. Weird things are happening in the UFC more and more often and it's more often surrounding Ali's fighters. I can't JUST look at Alex.
 
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What you're saying here is:

1. You're taking the UFC at their word (which is a bad idea at the best of times, let alone when they're trying to defend one of their stars).

2. Perreira's fight was quickly thrown together in a month after the Ank fight was announced, there was no crossover between the two planning stages, and that Perreira didn't have any input or pull to make the Ank fight happen.

One of those is stupid. One of those is hella stupid. You're neither, so don't come at me with this bullshit.
It's literally the first option. They said Ank was already booked. Ank's manager also said it. I didn't say they did it for this or that reason. I'm just saying what happened.

Do the UFC have their own plans? Yeh, of course they do lol. But that doesn't mean Alex cares about any of this or is playing games.

I don't know. Let's find out four months after March when Ank isn't being offered the fight.

I don't see why he won't be offered the fight. It has to happen eventually unless Alex decides to leave for HW before he's too old.

After seeing Perreira fight the number 8 guy instead of Ank, when both fights were being made at the same time, and then seeing the bullshit about him jumping weight classes, my faith in him is as low as it can get.

I don't get why your faith in Alex is low. If you said the UFC, I'd understand. I don't think it's fair to heap this on a guy who just comes out and fights.

They thought Alex was resting the remainder of the year so they booked Ank a fight. Then they needed someone to step in so they called Alex and we got Alex/Rountree. They would have thrown a massive bag at Alex for that.

Neither the fans nor the UFC lost anything. We might have lost a potential Alex/Ank matchup down the line, but luckily we didn't.

Two, yes, there is a reason for the champ to put things on hold and fight a contender that he seems to be avoiding and to silence critics who are starting to think he's a manufactured champion. If that's not a priority Alex and the UFC, then he's going to face criticism for it.

Alex has never said he doesn't want to fight Ank at all. He doesn't seem to give a shit who he fights. Remember he comes from kickboxing, where they don't have this sort of buildup between fights and just get in there and fight a lot more regularly.

Again, you're laying this on Alex like it's all his fault and you want him to do all Ank and the UFC's work for them. He doesn't have to nor should he have to do any of that. He's telling his own story, not Ank's. If Ank wants to be a part of it, he needs to do whatever he can do get himself to the dance. That's his job, not Alex's.

I understand the criticism, but you can't expect Alex to run around begging to fight someone when he's the champ just because some hardcore fans online have complained. He's already said he's keen. That should be enough for anyone.

You should be pissy at the UFC, and Ank to an extent, not Alex.

Ank fucked up by fighting to a draw and then handling himself poorly afterwards. That's on him. He then sits out for almost a year, fights Walker and fucks up in that as well. That's also on him. He then wastes time fighting Walker again. Then he sits out for most of the year before beating Rakic in a way that wasn't going to impress the majority of fans.

He should have been fighting non stop and putting fools away, and leaving no doubts who was next and why, not doing all that above nonsense.

Meanwhile Alex is just off doing his thing and fighting every 3-5 months when he gets the call.

And the UFC have their own scheduling to prioritize. If I was them, I'd want Alex fighting in March for sure. They've already got another Dagi booked for a title shot right before then with Umar. They can have Alex during Ramadan while Ank can't, and then Ank can come at it mid year when there's a good chance Islam and Umar won't be ready to fight again.

And maybe the UFC are trying to keep Ank away from Alex so Alex can go to HW without a loss. Again though, them potentially wanting that doesn't say anything about what Alex wants, or if he even cares at all.

You're one of my favourite posters here. I know you're not stupid... you're actually one of the most intelligent posters here or you wouldn't be one of my favourites.

Unexpected, but I appreciate that, mate. I try to not troll all the time haha. I enjoy your posts too.
 
Yes, you shouldn't blame Alex for it.

I've said this several times that fighters involved with Ali Abdel-Aziz have weird happenings.

I Firmly believe that deals are brokered between the the UFC and Ali. Things like "give Islam Porier because Porier is a draw, I'll have ankalaev fight someone else and you can keep poatan champion."

I found it strange that the UFC booked Armen gaethje and charles knowing islam needed a fight, his only option would be a short turn around Porier. The UFC knew Islam would need an opponent, but still booked the number 1 2 and 3 LW to fight on the same night, KNOWING the next option would be a short turn around bsd/porier winner. They CLEARLY knew what they are doing when they did this.


Then Comes Alex vs Roundtree Jr, same month as Anakalev. Why? Because The UFC gave Ali Porier, And asked to keep Anakalev away from Poatan because Ankalaev is bad for business. Poatan is the number 1 highest merch sales for the UFC. they dont want him to lose to anakalev. It has nothing to do with Alex or what he wants. Nothing to do with Anakalev either. I firmly believe the answer lies with The business dealings of Ali and the UFC. Alis fighters often get exceptional treatment, like umar getting the sandhagen fight, and now a title shot. I'm Sure the UFC asks for SOMETHING in return. I'm sure the UFC asks him to convince his fighters to take fights that hold them back as an exchange. The common denominator between islam/porier and Alex/anakalev is Ali. I did not hear a single thing from Ali about roundtree jr fight being an outrage, did you? He's on social media saying retarded shit like "Islam can beat dricus and poatan." but nothing like "anakalev not getting this title fight is an injustice"


you have ZERO reason to blame Alex. Weird things are happening in the UFC more and more often and it's more often surrounding Ali's fighters. I can't JUST look at Alex.
Alex is one of the UFC's biggest stars. He absolutely has a say over who he fights. He absolutely can be criticized for the fights he's taking. You have no reason to think he doesn't have influence. It's sad that this is how you're trying to protect him from criticism.
 
And the UFC have their own scheduling to prioritize. If I was them, I'd want Alex fighting in March for sure. They've already got another Dagi booked for a title shot right before then with Umar. They can have Alex during Ramadan while Ank can't, and then Ank can come at it mid year when there's a good chance Islam and Umar won't be ready to fight again.


First off great post over all, I read it all and agree with everything BTW.

But this part needs to be Examined deeper for an understanding

Zhang - Fights Feb
Shevchenko - )avallible for march (wont headline)
Pena - Avalible for march (wont headline though)



Pantoja - Just fought December could maybe make march
Merab - January against a fighter who doesn't fight ramadan
Topuria - Rightful contender wont fight in ramadan (evloev)
Islam - Fighting january, doesn't fight ramadan anyway
belal - Doesn't fight ramadan, is injured, rightful opponent doesnt' fight ramadan either
Dricus - Fights february
Poatan - Available for march
Jones - Avalible for march


So as far as I can see Options include

Jones vs Aspinall

Illa vs Lopez (this should be unnacceptable to anyone complaing about poatan)

Poatan vs Opponent


so yeah expect poatan and shevchenko
 
It's literally the first option. They said Ank was already booked. Ank's manager also said it. I didn't say they did it for this or that reason. I'm just saying what happened.

Do the UFC have their own plans? Yeh, of course they do lol. But that doesn't mean Alex cares about any of this or is playing games.



I don't see why he won't be offered the fight. It has to happen eventually unless Alex decides to leave for HW before he's too old.



I don't get why your faith in Alex is low. If you said the UFC, I'd understand. I don't think it's fair to heap this on a guy who just comes out and fights.

They thought Alex was resting the remainder of the year so they booked Ank a fight. Then they needed someone to step in so they called Alex and we got Alex/Rountree. They would have thrown a massive bag at Alex for that.

I'm going to need a source for this. If you're correct, I'll stop criticizing Alex for fighting Rountree instead of Ank

Neither the fans nor the UFC lost anything. We might have lost a potential Alex/Ank matchup down the line, but luckily we didn't.



Alex has never said he doesn't want to fight Ank at all. He doesn't seem to give a shit who he fights. Remember he comes from kickboxing, where they don't have this sort of buildup between fights and just get in there and fight a lot more regularly.

Again, you're laying this on Alex like it's all his fault and you want him to do all Ank and the UFC's work for them. He doesn't have to nor should he have to do any of that. He's telling his own story, not Ank's. If Ank wants to be a part of it, he needs to do whatever he can do get himself to the dance. That's his job, not Alex's.

I understand the criticism, but you can't expect Alex to run around begging to fight someone when he's the champ just because some hardcore fans online have complained. He's already said he's keen. That should be enough for anyone.

You should be pissy at the UFC, and Ank to an extent, not Alex.
It's hard to know what to be pissy at Alex for because I can't even tell if he's a manufactured champ and mixed martial artist or if he's legit. But the longer he's fed nothing but strikers, the more criticism he's going to get from me. There are other parties that also deserve criticism, but Alex is most definitely not exempt.

It's pretty obvious that he's taking all kinds of fights at short notice because they're feeding him inferior strikers, so that most definitely does not put him above suspicion he's ducking grapplers.

Ank fucked up by fighting to a draw and then handling himself poorly afterwards. That's on him. He then sits out for almost a year, fights Walker and fucks up in that as well. That's also on him. He then wastes time fighting Walker again. Then he sits out for most of the year before beating Rakic in a way that wasn't going to impress the majority of fans.

He should have been fighting non stop and putting fools away, and leaving no doubts who was next and why, not doing all that above nonsense.
There are absolutely no doubts that Ankalaev is the most deserving contender. Any doubts that might exist are about other questions, but not that one.
Meanwhile Alex is just off doing his thing and fighting every 3-5 months when he gets the call.

And the UFC have their own scheduling to prioritize. If I was them, I'd want Alex fighting in March for sure. They've already got another Dagi booked for a title shot right before then with Umar. They can have Alex during Ramadan while Ank can't, and then Ank can come at it mid year when there's a good chance Islam and Umar won't be ready to fight again.

And maybe the UFC are trying to keep Ank away from Alex so Alex can go to HW without a loss. Again though, them potentially wanting that doesn't say anything about what Alex wants, or if he even cares at all.
It absolutely says something about him if he never legitimizes himself as a champion and a mixed martial artist.
Unexpected, but I appreciate that, mate. I try to not troll all the time haha. I enjoy your posts too.
lol tbf nobody should enjoy my posts, but I genuinely look forward to your contributions in the ONE PBP threads and discussions.
 
Alex is one of the UFC's biggest stars. He absolutely has a say over who he fights. He absolutely can be criticized for the fights he's taking. You have no reason to think he doesn't have influence. It's sad that this is how you're trying to protect him from criticism.
I think you're trying to protect anakalev from critisicm
 
Please quote anything I've ever said saying Ankalaev shouldn't be criticized.
I guess you didn't say that. but i dont see why alex should be criticized more than anakalev thats for sure. I don't see HOW poatan is ducking "grapplers" which you did say when the only "grappler"(not really) "he's ducking" has now refused to fight him twice.


Also who is going to headline a ppv this march? Think about this before you consider that this is about poatan. if you cannot provide an alternative for Poatan defending in march, you really have no argument.
 
I guess you didn't say that. but i dont see why alex should be criticized more than anakalev thats for sure. I don't see HOW poatan is ducking "grapplers" which you did say when the only "grappler"(not really) "he's ducking" has now refused to fight him twice.


Also who is going to headline a ppv this march? Think about this before you consider that this is about poatan. if you cannot provide an alternative for Poatan defending in march, you really have no argument.
Can you quote where I said he was ducking grapplers?
 
Also who is going to headline a ppv this march? Think about this before you consider that this is about poatan. if you cannot provide an alternative for Poatan defending in march, you really have no argument.

Also, this is really dumb because whether or not they have various fights lined up has nothing to do with questions about whether Perreira is legitimate or a manufactured champion and mixed martial artist.
 
Also, this is really dumb because whether or not they have various fights lined up has nothing to do with questions about whether Perreira is legitimate or a manufactured champion and mixed martial artist.
Okay you dont answer my questions I wont answer yours. you can pretend to be confused all you want. Poatan is not manufactured. he's beaten 5 ufc champions already. ankalaev has beaten zero and turned the fight down twice now. Maybe ankalaev is hoping alex loses to someone else.
 
Can you quote where I said he was ducking grapplers?
It's pretty obvious that he's taking all kinds of fights at short notice because they're feeding him inferior strikers, so that most definitely does not put him above suspicion he's ducking grapplers.
Even though there are no grapplers

unless you mean to tell me people should be "suspicious" of something you don't claim he is doing. because that would be retarded.
 
Okay you dont answer my questions I wont answer yours. you can pretend to be confused all you want. Poatan is not manufactured. he's beaten 5 ufc champions already. ankalaev has beaten zero.
Okay, idiot: your question has nothing to do with my point. Yes, I'm not entertaining your deflecting bullshit.
 
Do you understand the a difference between "he's ducking grapplers" and "there's a suspicion he's ducking grapplers"?

Because there's a huge one.
unless you mean to tell me people should be "suspicious" of something you don't claim he is doing. because that would be retarded.

you're just not saying what you mean, if that is the case.

can't even name these so called "grapplers" we should be "suspicious" of him "ducking"
 
unless you mean to tell me people should be "suspicious" of something you don't claim he is doing. because that would be retarded.

you're just not saying what you mean, if that is the case.

can't even name the grapplers we should be "suspicious" of him "ducking"
What I mean is I don't know how legitimate he is as a champion and a mixed martial artist, but I'll have my answers when he encounters some real grappling threats.

How would you like me to express this?
 
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