Law After Win, Trump Fans Admit “Project 2025 Is the Agenda”

[AWilder]

Common.

Politicians rarely schmooze and thus when they do the rare schmooze speech no one should try and hold them to account for anything they say in it. Everything they say can be treated as never uttered as MadMick does when ignores Trump admitted exactly what Madmick is saying Trump never did.

What is MadMick defense when the words are quoted to him? ..."Schmooze speech thus does not count".

Locker room talk

 

[Whippy McGee]

So now the Lefties think Benny Johnson is a reliable source?

You clowns need to make up your minds.

Project 2025 had all sorts of really good stuff that Trump should do. It also has all sorts of dumb stuff that Trump shouldn't do. Just because he does some of the good stuff doesn't mean he's doing the stupid crap... quit being scared Lefties... it's unbecoming.

 

[Madmick]

hahhaha.

Do i have to quote how long the Heritage Foundation has ADMITTED they have been working on Project 2025, before it was formally named?

Why do you think this would matter? This has already been sunk. You based your assertion on Trump stating at a policy dinner it was the agenda. He explicitly said it wasn't at a later date.

Do you ever even try to google before offering your uninformed and ridiculous views, as what is known as Project 2025 was in the work and largely published going back toto 2023 in a series of publications called the Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise.

LOL. The dinner was April 2022. Self owning at its finest.

It's splitting hairs, since he's talking to the Heritage Foundation, so clearly he is referencing whatever ideas their think tank advances, but why not needle you with it since you want to assert it is the agenda based on what Trump said at a fundraising dinner, but then reject that he said it wasn't at a later date on the campaign trail itself. This is simple. You can't cite Trump. Trump made clear his own policies.

MadMick, i say this sincerely that you are such a mark for Trump and his talking points and if Trump says tomorrow 'I never said i liked tariffs', because he sees public backlash, i can fucking guarantee you will be arguing Trump never said it as you only consider what Trump says once pressured and you complete ignore what he said prior.

Sorry but Trump "schmooze speech' counts when he clearly says his government will be using Project 2025 as the basis for his admin and the Heritage Foundation guys confirms same.

You can keep repeating 'things said in a schmooze speech do not matter', but they do. Of course they do.

I say again you have no way, ZERO, to establish why we should discount Trump's own words simply because you keep saying 'you know better and things Trump says in schmooze speeches do not count.'

You have nothing. You lost. You know it. BUt as a true sherdogger you cannot bring yourself to admit it

Why is this so hard? Why can't you just name the specific policies in Project 2025 that weren't already listed in Trump's Agenda47 platform, his 2024 campaign platform, or the Republican party platform-- all which he openly embraced?

You cling to this label as a boogeyman, but you clearly don't know what's in it. What is in the "real agenda" that is so appalling that wasn't already in his declared platform? What is Trump hiding? What nightmare do they have in store for us?

 

[ChosenOne]

Why do you think this would matter? This has already been sunk. You based your assertion on Trump stating at a policy dinner it was the agenda. He explicitly said it wasn't at a later date.

LOL. The dinner was April 2022. Self owning at its finest.

It's splitting hairs, since he's talking to the Heritage Foundation, so clearly he is referencing whatever ideas their think tank advances, but why not needle you with it since you want to assert it is the agenda based on what Trump said at a fundraising dinner, but then reject that he said it wasn't at a later date on the campaign trail itself. This is simple. You can't cite Trump. Trump made clear his own policies.

Why is this so hard? Why can't you just name the specific policies in Project 2025 that weren't already listed in Trump's Agenda47 platform, his 2024 campaign platform, or the Republican party platform-- all which he openly embraced?

You cling to this label as a boogeyman, but you clearly don't know what's in it. What is in the "real agenda" that is so appalling that wasn't already in his declared platform? What is Trump hiding? What nightmare do they have in store for us?

Man you simple.

'Oh Trump stated something different as soon as Project 2025 started getting bad publicity, as the election was drawing near'.

Oh my, that is a real win. He disavowed his prior words so those prior words are now nullifed and do not exist.

What a derp you are. What a mark, for every politician who only needs to say 'this is my new position ...don't believe what i said prior' and Madmark eats it up.

'Self own' really. Again i keep forgetting you are completely ignorant on these topics as the BOOK published in 2023, was drawn from position papers all published, many years prior. SOme up to a decade or more prior.

This is all new to you, i understand Mick, as someone with strong opinions based in ignorance, as you are, but Project 2025, is a compendium that has been in the work for a decade or more.

And oohhhh 'so again Trump saying what he said does not count because of course he would say that...'

Really? You are being laughably stupid. If Trump get up in front of representatives of the Military complex tomorrow and says he is now embracing the Neo Con policy positions, and he then starts enacting actions that come directly from it only a person as daft as you Mick, would say 'Trump saying to that to Neocons does not count because of course... he was speaking to neocons.'


You have created a pass that does not exist thinking it is a get out of jail free for all comments pass. It is not.

 

[ChosenOne]

Again for those keeping score at home, this is Mick's new position.


'Ok Trump did say and admit to what you said he said, with regards to his admin implementing the Project 2025, but because he was speaking to Heritage Foundation people who created it, what Trump said does not count... because of course he would say that to them'.

That is the entirety of Mick's position as to why Trump admitting it should now be thrown out as if never said.

 

[Madmick]

Man you simple.

'Oh Trump stated something different as soon as Project 2025 started getting bad publicity, as the election was drawing near'.

Oh my, that is a real win. He disavowed his prior words so those prior words are now nullifed and do not exist.

What a derp you are. What a mark, for every politician who only needs to say 'this is my new position ...don't believe what i said prior' and Madmark eats it up.

'Self own' really. Again i keep forgetting you are completely ignorant on these topics as the BOOK published in 2023, was drawn from position papers all published, many years prior. SOme up to a decade or more prior.

This is all new to you, i understand Mick, as someone with strong opinions based in ignorance, as you are, but Project 2025, is a compendium that has been in the work for a decade or more.

And oohhhh 'so again Trump saying what he said does not count because of course he would say that...'

Really? You are being laughably stupid. If Trump get up in front of representatives of the Military complex tomorrow and says he is now embracing the Neo Con policy positions, and he then starts enacting actions that come directly from it only a person as daft as you Mick, would say 'Trump saying to that to Neocons does not count because of course... he was speaking to neocons.'


You have created a pass that does not exist thinking it is a get out of jail free for all comments pass. It is not.

Again for those keeping score at home, this is Mick's new position.


'Ok Trump did say and admit to what you said he said, with regards to his admin implementing the Project 2025, but because he was speaking to Heritage Foundation people who created it, what Trump said does not count... because of course he would say that to them'.

That is the entirety of Mick's position as to why Trump admitting it should now be thrown out as if never said.

This entire thread exists because a leftist poster took a satirical video by the comedian Matt Walsh literally. My position is first and foremost to mock people who are this stupid.

The premise endorsed by the OP is simple. Trump's supporters and Trump himself were disingenuously presenting themselves before the win. They were concealing their real motives. And the real motives are detailed in Project 2025. You have touted this yourself.

So I will ask you, simply and directly, a fourth time. What is in Project 2025 that wasn't in Trump's own openly declared agendas during the campaign that is supposed to be so terrifying to everyone? How can you prove these concealed policies were the "agenda all along" instead of those? Which of these policies has been passed?

 

[ChosenOne]

This entire thread exists because...

False.

You dispute with me exists as i said Trump had admitting Project 2025 was the basis for his coming administration and you told me i was wrong and Trump had said no such thing and i was taking what Matt Walsh said and attributing it to Trump.

I then posted the below to you, and you could no longer deny Trump said what he did, but instead of admitting you made a mistake (something you are incapable of doing) you then pivoted to 'ok he said it... but it does not count as he said something after'.




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Trump was abundantly clear...

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Trump also spoke highly about the group's plans at a dinner sponsored by the Heritage Foundation in April 2022, saying: “This is a great group, and they’re going to lay the groundwork and detail plans for exactly what our movement will do and what your movement will do when the American people give us a colossal mandate to save America.”

The project’s website bills it as a “governing agenda” that would “pave the way for an effective conservative Administration.”

 

[Madmick]

False.

You dispute with me exists as i said Trump had admitting Project 2025 was the basis for his coming administration and you told me i was wrong and Trump had said no such thing and i was taking what Matt Walsh said and attributing it to Trump.

I then posted the below to you, and you could no longer deny Trump said what he did, but instead of admitting you made a mistake (something you are incapable of doing) you then pivoted to 'ok he said it... but it does not count as he said something after'.




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Trump was abundantly clear...

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Trump also spoke highly about the group's plans at a dinner sponsored by the Heritage Foundation in April 2022, saying: “This is a great group, and they’re going to lay the groundwork and detail plans for exactly what our movement will do and what your movement will do when the American people give us a colossal mandate to save America.”

The project’s website bills it as a “governing agenda” that would “pave the way for an effective conservative Administration.”

Concession accepted.

 

[ChosenOne]

Concession accepted.

Yes i already accepted yours. You got nothing.

I again challenge you to explain in a way any one would accept why Trumps own words above do not count, that is not you simply saying 'he said different words later once public sentiment was turning negative towards Project 2025'.

It is the one thing you never address because you cannot.

 

[Koro_11]

After win, Trump fans admit “Project 2025 is the agenda"

"Now that the election is over I think we can finally say that yeah actually Project 2025 is the agenda. Lol."

www.motherjones.com

On Wednesday morning, some of Trump’s favorite fans finally felt comfortable joking about what the next president has long denied: Project 2025 has always been the plan for a second Trump term.

“Now that the election is over I think we can finally say that yeah actually Project 2025 is the agenda. Lol,” right-wing podcast host Matt Walsh wrote in a post on X of the 900-plus-page extremist guidebook. Walsh’s message soon got picked up and promoted by Steve Bannon, Trump’s former chief strategist who was recently released from prison, where he landed after ignoring a subpoena from the House January 6 Committee. “Fabulous,” Bannon said, chuckling, after reading Walsh’s post out loud on his War Room podcast today. “We might have to put that everywhere.”

Benny Johnson, a conservative YouTuber with 2.59 million followers who has called affirmative action “Nazi-level thinking” and said Trump should prosecute Biden for human trafficking of immigrants, also chimed in: “It is my honor to inform you all that Project 2025 was real the whole time,” he posted on X.

Bo French, a local Texas GOP official who recently came under fire for using slurs about gay people and people with disabilities on social media, wrote: “Can we admit now that we are going to implement Project 2025?”

Walsh, Bannon, and the others are not the only people in Trump’s orbit who have made these promises. While Trump has tried to distance himself from Project 2025, there is a long list of his connections to it, which include many people who have similarly said that Trump plans to enact the policies if reelected. Russell Vought, a potential next chief of staff profiled by my colleague Isabela Dias, said in a secretly recorded meeting that Project 2025 is the real Trump plan and the distancing tactic was just campaign necessity.

 

[AWilder]

Concession accepted.

 

[AWilder]

Yes i already accepted yours. You got nothing.

I again challenge you to explain in a way any one would accept why Trumps own words above do not count, that is not you simply saying 'he said different words later once public sentiment was turning negative towards Project 2025'.

It i the one think you never address because you cannot.

It's hilarious. He thinks he's right because of a technicality that exists only in his head

 

[ermac88]

Democrats had 4 years to do a better job and they failed miserably

technically they did do a better job

when trump was in office unemployment was at a record high and the GDP was at its lowest ever

We needed bipartisan bailouts to undue the economic damage from trumps first failed presidency.


But the metric for "good job" means different things for different people, clearly.

 

[HereticBD]

The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears

"The border is secure."

 

[DoctorTaco]

Madmark

Lol

 

[kflo]

This entire thread exists because a leftist poster took a satirical video by the comedian Matt Walsh literally. My position is first and foremost to mock people who are this stupid.

The premise endorsed by the OP is simple. Trump's supporters and Trump himself were disingenuously presenting themselves before the win. They were concealing their real motives. And the real motives are detailed in Project 2025. You have touted this yourself.

So I will ask you, simply and directly, a fourth time. What is in Project 2025 that wasn't in Trump's own openly declared agendas during the campaign that is supposed to be so terrifying to everyone? How can you prove these concealed policies were the "agenda all along" instead of those? Which of these policies has been passed?

are you confusing your matt walsh's?

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

technically they did do a better job

when trump was in office unemployment was at a record high and the GDP was at its lowest ever

We needed bipartisan bailouts to undue the economic damage from trumps first failed presidency.


But the metric for "good job" means different things for different people, clearly.

Wasn't that primarily because of a global pandemic? Prior to that wasn't America doing pretty well?

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

Wasn't that primarily because of a global pandemic? Prior to that wasn't America doing pretty well?

we were booming

 

[ChosenOne]

It's hilarious. He thinks he's right because of a technicality that exists only in his head

@Madmick has no argument.

Saying a politician denied a prior position once public sentiment turned on him, means that he never said the prior thing or we can no longer attribute it to him, is just nonsense.

it is stupid. 'Oh he said something different after so he gets a pass on what he said first'. /madmick

 

[italiamusica]

It's hard to even discuss shit like this because the second someone is like, "well I don't really like him doing this and here's why", a few people inevitably come along like LOL STOP CRYING LOSER WE WON SNOWFLAKE

So it's impossible to ever have a normal conversation, especially when y'all are the legit snowflakes and can't handle anything different from your white vanilla norm.