Social Will the government shutdown tomorrow?

[White Whale]

The government shut down and its a good day for American citizens.

 

[BFoe]

The government shut down and its a good day for American citizens.

No, we’re the ones who get fucked in this each time it happens. Especially this time of year. For example, one of the things that closes down are national parks, plus disruptions to air and train travel. It hurts tourism, affects state economies, and we lose billions in GDP.

 

[HockeyBjj]

Y

I pay a lot of money for my health insurance. Why should my (and everyone else's) tax dollars subsidize free health care for illegals?
How do Dems see this as a winning issue for them?

Your Health insurance already subsidizes for those who don’t pay medical bills. It’s just more expensive than if tax money was used for health expenses

Cliffs: poor people still go to hospitals, particularly expensive ERs where docs are legally required to treat them. They don’t pay those bills and the hospital has to eat those costs. Hospitals end up charging those with insurance more to make up those costs. Insurance then raises premiums on us.

Middle class with “good” employer provided health plans subsidize the healthcare of the rest of the country. With taxes it would at least be more spread out and not a middle class burden.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Jake Sherman of punchbowl news reporting that republicans will be meeting with OMB director at 1pm regarding layoffs and reshaping various departments

 

[MacGregor]

 

[BFoe]

Jake Sherman of punchbowl news reporting that republicans will be meeting with OMB director at 1pm regarding layoffs and reshaping various departments

In other words, if we refuse to get on board with Trump hurting average Americans, he’ll hurt even more average Americans.

 

[heloder]

In other words, if we refuse to get on board with Trump hurting average Americans, he’ll hurt even more average Americans.

The shutdown is just the pretext. Republicans threatening to destroy the government and fuck over millions of Americans is just them doing what they want to do. Otherwise they...wouldn't.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Jake Sherman of punchbowl news reporting that republicans will be meeting with OMB director at 1pm regarding layoffs and reshaping various departments

Seems like the democrats gambled and will lose a lot more than they intended.

 

[Seano]

Y

Your Health insurance already subsidizes for those who don’t pay medical bills. It’s just more expensive than if tax money was used for health expenses

Cliffs: poor people still go to hospitals, particularly expensive ERs where docs are legally required to treat them. They don’t pay those bills and the hospital has to eat those costs. Hospitals end up charging those with insurance more to make up those costs. Insurance then raises premiums on us.

Middle class with “good” employer provided health plans subsidize the healthcare of the rest of the country. With taxes it would at least be more spread out and not a middle class burden.

I'm aware that people go to the hospital. It'd still be the middle class shouldering the bulk of the cost. Any country that offers "free" healthcare has an astronomical tax rate compared to the US. Why can't I go to work, refuse the health care my employer provides and get the free health care everyone else not contributing gets?

 

[oldshadow]

Don’t spend your remaining years like this lmao

I got time left and I send some of it here for amusement.

 

[BFoe]

I'm aware that people go to the hospital. It'd still be the middle class shouldering the bulk of the cost. Any country that offers "free" healthcare has an astronomical tax rate compared to the US. Why can't I go to work, refuse the health care my employer provides and get the free health care everyone else not contributing gets?

The ACA tax credits don’t make healthcare free. They reduce premium costs in varying degrees on a sliding scale based on income. If you don’t qualify for those tax credits it is likely because you are not poor. The people who do qualify are low income and have a whole host of other problems to deal with that you don’t have to deal with.

 

[heloder]

Seems like the democrats gambled and will lose a lot more than they intended.

If you think this is about democrats losing something, you are in for a rude awakening.

 

[ShadowRun]

Lol




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[Rob Battisti]

If you think this is about democrats losing something, you are in for a rude awakening.

What I’m saying is, if Trump truly does get rid of these government workers permanently, it hurts the democrats more.

 

[oldshadow]

How does a minority party shutdown the government? It can't without bipartisan support. The bulk of the shutdown falls on the republican party as they need to convince the fewest number of people to pass anything.

You have no idea how this works do you. Republicans dont have the votes to override the filibuster. The Republicans offered a clean bill to extend the government. The democrats want to add on shit to roll back the bill the Republicans passed. Its on the democrats.

Fuck it let it shut down and see if we can break the record and make sure they call the democrats out ever single day it is.

 

[Seano]

The ACA tax credits don’t make healthcare free. They reduce premium costs in varying degrees on a sliding scale based on income. If you don’t qualify for those tax credits it is likely because you are not poor. The people who do qualify are low income and have a whole host of other problems to deal with that you don’t have to deal with.

I don't think you're answering my question and are confirming its the middle class that takes it up the ass. Why don't I deserve the same benefits as the poor? Why is someone who is poor rewarded with health care subsidized by the working class?

 

[OaklandIsMyCity]

What I’m saying is, if Trump truly does get rid of these government workers permanently, it hurts the democrats more.

What have government workers done to you? People will hate a man that make a few thousand more than them, but let the millionaires and billionaires screw them over without complaint.

 

[Soggust]

Stupid question but im joining the thread late and too lazy to go back if someone already asked.....What workers can we afford to lose that DOGE didn't get rid of?

 

[Source]

I thought it was the presidents fault if the government shuts down?

Well, if you say who gets fired it always has to be the top,” Trump said. “I mean, problems start from the top and they have to get solved from the top and the president’s the leader. And he’s got to get everybody in a room and he’s got to lead.”

He said that further down in history, “when they talk about the government shutdown, they’re going to be talking about the president of the United States, who the president was at that time.”

“They’re not going to be talking about who was the head of the House, the head the Senate, who’s running things in Washington,” Trump said.

“So I really think the pressure is on the president,” he added.

Trump’s comments blaming Obama for 2013 government shutdown resurface

President Trump’s comments about the 2013 government shutdown during the Obama administration have resurfaced as the federal government races toward a shutdown of its own.Trump spoke to “Fox & …

thehill.com

 

[OaklandIsMyCity]

I don't think you're answering my question and are confirming its the middle class that takes it up the ass. Why don't I deserve the same benefits as the poor? Why is someone who is poor rewarded with health care subsidized by the working class?

Lol the man said the poor are rewarded. That has to be spoken by a person who was never in a bad situation.