Why isn't anyone wrestling Pereira?

[World eater]

Funny how this didn't apply 10-15 years ago. All the bigger guys had great grappling and their size didn't offset that. Perhaps the talent has declined today.🕵

I don’t think it is just that. People at LHW are bigger now, they cut more weight. I guess most of these guys would have been HW 15 years ago. Wrestling/grappling is taxing, especially if you have to cut a lot of weight leading up to the fight. Striking is just easier. Similar to the situation at MW two years ago. Big, lanky elite strikers with TDD can be a nightmare.

 

[flektarn]

Seen very good wrestlers at HW make very big mistakes that cost them the fight before. Blaydes, almeida, there's others. You're asking guys who are primarily strikers to just shoot blast doubles or single legs on a guy who has been training with Glover for years to avoid that situation and avoid getting clipped on the way in? Who don't understand how to set it up either?
Come on.

 

[TerraRayzing]

People don't seem to understand how wrestling works. They see a half ass single attempt and assume that means Pereira has solved wrestling. But if you watch Khabib or Islam fight they rely on chain wrestling. They don't always get the first takedown. But they keep trying, and they eventually get the fight to the ground. We have yet to see anyone attempt that gameplan on Pereira. Blachowicz came the closest and he almost subbed him, losing by a razor sharp split decision. There's a clear path to having a more favorable outcome against Pereira and I'm just wondering why these fighters aren't trying. It's very poor fight IQ. It's like women's bantamweight during the Ronda era where everyone would just immediately clinch her and challenge her in her strongest area.

How many LHWs do you honestly see chain wrestling effectively?

 

[pamirec]

Jiri didn't try at all this time. Not even after almost getting ended in round one. We are witnessing incredibly dumb fight IQ with no attempt at self preservation.

Jiri didn’t shoot, but tried to press Poatan against the cage to get a td. It just didn’t work. Taking Alex down is much harder than people think.

 

[Zanmato]

I guess it's like when Chuck Liddell was on his game. The risk of going for it is very high when 1 punch from anywhere can send you reeling, but I expect someone to try to Couture - Tony him eventually

 

[Ayreon]

Jones could fight Pereira next week and take his belt away. I feel confident saying that. Do you disagree?

Good luck losing 50 pounds at 40 years

 

[ejazahmednit]

Let him fight Ankalaev
If anyone can he will because he is a grapple heavy fighter and is not deluded like Jiri or in love with his power like Jan
Alex can still find a way to win vs Ank but its the fight to make at LHW

 

[Morris88]

It's not easy to wrestle when you know your opponent has a fucking nuclear left hand.
People talk about good wrestling making strikers hesitant. Good power can make wrestlers hesitant too. One bad shot and it's over.

Amen brother. Yoel Romero showed Chris Weidman what can happen when you try to shoot!!

 

[T-dog.1337]

Its the obvious best chance of beating him but no one is trying. Did Jiri shoot even once? These guys for some reason have unexplained confidence in their standup, despite all the evidence telling them not to. Look at 170 for example. Ian Garry is a striker and still had the intelligence to rely on wrestling vs MVP. He specifically gameplanned for it. Where is the fight IQ at light heavyweight? The arguable best wrestler in the division has publicly stated he plans to stand with Pereira. Wtf is wrong with these guys?

It's hard to be interested in the division with such poor fight IQ shown from every fighter. Imagine Jones committing to a striking battle against Pereira. It would never happen. The guy could come back tonight and just take his belt back.

Seems like no, some say he's a black belt and that's why, maybe they're scared of the ground and pound. Although strikes hurt more standing.

 

[TerraRayzing]

Amen brother. Yoel Romero showed Chris Weidman what can happen when you try to shoot!!

Good example, bro. Weidman kept shooting sloppy takedowns and got his head axed.
People who haven't trained a day in their lives think wrestling is simply rushing ahead, grabbing a body lock or a leg and just wrestling.
Just take a look at Bader vs Johnson as another example. So much easier said than done.

 

[scytheavatar]

Why didn't Conor try to punch Khabib in the face?

 

[The_Renaissance]

Division is full of strikers more or less. Ankalaev might test that, but he's not what I'd call a powerhouse wrestler himself.

 

[Almighty42]

First you have to close the distance and avoid getting hurt or KOd

Then you have to actually take him down, which isn't easy considering he is strong and has decent takedown defense at this point

And you also have to do that in the clinch where he can fuck you up with knees...

 

[bbal]

Ankalaev will lay on him for 5 rounds doing nothing , he is not championship material, standing he will be knocked put .

 

[oscerthegrouch]

because most of the top 10 lack the wrestling chops to get the job done. In my opinion, Magomed Ankalaev is the greatest threat to his reign.

^This Oo0 Izzy tried.. ( kickboxer) Oo0 Jiri tried a Samurai ?? there no real wrestlers that his faced yet....

 

[You Will Vote For Dreyga]

These newer accounts are giving dreyga a run for his money for worst posters on the site. Then again it's rare for an account to have 8k posts in a year and not be total shit.

 

[MMAJunkie]

Its the obvious best chance of beating him but no one is trying. Did Jiri shoot even once? These guys for some reason have unexplained confidence in their standup, despite all the evidence telling them not to. Look at 170 for example. Ian Garry is a striker and still had the intelligence to rely on wrestling vs MVP. He specifically gameplanned for it. Where is the fight IQ at light heavyweight? The arguable best wrestler in the division has publicly stated he plans to stand with Pereira. Wtf is wrong with these guys?

It's hard to be interested in the division with such poor fight IQ shown from every fighter. Imagine Jones committing to a striking battle against Pereira. It would never happen. The guy could come back tonight and just take his belt back.

Which wrestlers has he fought?
And how many wrestlers are there at 205?

 

[Alpha_T83]

Jiri tried to wrestle him in both fights. In the second fight, after getting tagged, Jiri tried pushing him against the cage to work a takedown and Pereira defended it.

It probably still takes a good wrestler to take down Pereira. Ankalaev can probably do it, though.

 

[theincognito]

Jiri did try. What do you think he was trying to do when he clinched him against the fence? Pereira defended and escaped.

Ankalaev will similarly fail. Hopefully all these people who are convinced he is a good wrestler because he's from Dagestan will put money on it and I will get good odds for Pereira easily KOing him.

 

[DustinBeaver]

It's hard to get someone down if you never shoot.

It's hard to perform a perfect a double leg when your limbs are under the control of the mysterious forces of Brazilian Black Magik.