Where is Poatan all time at 205 now?

[TriangleMonkey]

He’s creeping towards that top 5 spot

He needs to dismantle Ank and whoever the next contender is and raise that defense number

 

[Westbrick]

Top five. Can't top Jones, can't top (yet) Cormier who could've been the GOAT if Jones didn't exist, Chuck was a beast... So i could've forget anyone, but he's up there from 4-5.

Cormier resumé at LHW ain't enough to be top 15

 

[ArtardFiesta]

LHW
1. Jones.
2. Poatan
3. DC (only knock is he is seen as a paper champ holding the belt when jones was suspended)
4. Randy or Chuck. Can probably give it to chuck but both are neck and neck.

 

[BFoe]

Cormier resumé at LHW ain't enough to be top 15

What does that make Poatan then, like #20?

 

[djacobox372]

Dude is protected. He doesn't rank at all until that bs. stops.

 

[SalvadorAllende]

Why cares?

He is fucking awesome and we all have been lucky to watch his epic run.

You guys have that obsession to compare... IDK why but you need to stop and just enjoy.

No he hasn't. Other than the names you mentioned, Krylov poses a significant challenge both on the feet and grappling. He is fighting Murzakanov next who would also make for an interesting striking matchup with Pereira. Oezdemir is also a potentially interesting fight; who is fighting Carlos Ulberg next who himself could make for a interesting striking match up (and narrative) with Pereira.

Blatantly obvious that Pereira's next opponent will likely be the winner of the Oezdemir vs Ulberg fight. It could also be the winner of the Murzakanov vs Krylov fight (although if Krylov wins the UFC will probably not give him the shot due to both the duel striking and grappling threat he poses, as well as his geo-political affiliations)

Krylov has been underrated for a while now and his latest losses are against top guys. Still he needs to put the work in.
Oezdemir and Ulberg are favorable matchups for Alex... they will not grapple at all.

Anyways.. I'm pretty sure Alex is fighting Rakic - Ankalaev winner.. that will test his grappling defense.

 

[blaseblase]

This was a throwaway fight. Pereira did what he was supposed to do. Khalil made it unexpectedly competitive but that imo doesn't elevate this fight in any way other than entertainment value. If Khalil goes on to get some big wins against the top 5 I'll revise my opinion but until then it's a substandard title defense where Pereira underperformed.

 

[colorles]

Why cares?

He is fucking awesome and we all have been lucky to watch his epic run.

You guys have that obsession to compare... IDK why but you need to stop and just enjoy.



Krylov has been underrated for a while now and his latest losses are against top guys. Still he needs to put the work in.
Oezdemir and Ulberg are favorable matchups for Alex... they will not grapple at all.

Anyways.. I'm pretty sure Alex is fighting Rakic - Ankalaev winner.. that will test his grappling defense.

I would agree that Pereira would be the favorite against Oezdemir and Ulberg and rightfully so. Krylov is fighting Murzakanov next and should be right up there in the mix with a win; however even if he wins UFC will avoid giving him the shot. If Murzakanov wins though he could be dangerous for Pereira, an explosive southpaw striker like Roundtree but, frankly, much more explosive and powerful and dangerous striker with the hands, like a southpaw Fedor

 

[Preston broadus]

Based on title defenses, Alex is #2 behind Jon Jones and followed by dc in the all time ufc lhw rankings.

He also isn't fighting guys who can take him down. Tito, Chuck, overeem, rampage, chute boxe and btt guys could all finish him on the ground with strikes or sub.

 

[TestosterOWN]

He’s number 1 for me. Dudes a savage and would fight once every three weeks if he could. Also he’s not a druggy women beater.

 

[Westbrick]

What does that make Poatan then, like #20?

Bro, Cormier best wins are Rumble by RNC, something Koscheck could do, out of prime Gus coming of a loss, Pat Cummins and Ozdemir, outside of that he was Jones bitch and almost lost to 42yo Anderson by KO.

This mf is the most overrated fighter ever, LHW or HW, NOBODY is close to that kind of overrating.

 

[BFoe]

Bro, Cormier best wins are Rumble by RNC, something Koscheck could do, out of prime Gus coming of a loss, Pat Cummins and Ozdemir, outside of that he was Jones bitch and almost lost to 42yo Anderson by KO.

This mf is the most overrated fighter ever, LHW or HW, NOBODY is close to that kind of overrating.

Oh my, so much salt. What did DC do to hurt you, bud? Geez.

You sound ridiculous. Saying that RNCing Rumble is a thing Koscheck can do is like if I pointed out that TKOing Rountree is something
Johnny Walker can do, except much easier than Poatan apparently. Poatan should’ve just used that BJJ black belt of his to get Rountree out of there in the first round like Tyson Pedro did, eh?


Cormier’s LHW resume of Cummins, Dan Henderson, Anderson Silva, Gustafsson, Rumble x 2, and Oezdemir > than Poatan’s resume of Blachowicz, Jiri x 2, Hill, and Rountree.
Not even debatable really.

 

[Westbrick]

Oh my, so much salt. What did DC do to hurt you, bud? Geez.

You sound ridiculous. Saying that RNCing Rumble is a thing Koscheck can do is like if I pointed out that TKOing Rountree is something
Johnny Walker can do, except much easier than Poatan apparently. Poatan should’ve just used that BJJ black belt of his to get Rountree out of there in the first round like Tyson Pedro did, eh?


Cormier’s LHW resume of Cummins, Dan Henderson, Anderson Silva, Gustafsson, Rumble x 2, and Oezdemir > than Poatan’s resume of Blachowicz, Jiri x 2, Hill, and Rountree.
Not even debatable really.

Hendo, Anderson and Ozdemir in your list just shows you're biased.

Cormier resumé is just weak as fuck, HW, LHW, anywhere.

Plus Alex is fighting at 205 for what? 1 year?

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

Yes, sadly, but I don't agree that their fight meets my criteria of seeing him overcome a significant grappling challenge.

Well what's the dude meant to do, not Alex's fault Jan wanted to stand

 

[2004 account]

Right now, he is THE GREATEST WARRIOR ON EARTH

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

I'd like to see him overcoming some significant grappling challenges before I know where to rank him among the all time greats. The current matchmaking he's getting is not a good look for him.

Agreed. Hes doing well against whats been put in front of him, but its hard to shake the stigma of this being a weak era full of one dimensional strikers who play right into his strengths.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Cormier resumé at LHW ain't enough to be top 15

DC could probably come back and beat Poatan now lol.

 

[Thepaintbucket]

Idk man. Maybe Im having some nostalgia bias going on here, but the LHW div during Jon Jones/DC era was so talent rich. So many different styles. You couldnt get away with just purely striking.

Alex has maxed out his striking stat and even the guy who Sherdog thinks can beat him is probably going to dumbass strike with him too

Could you put Alex Pereira above guys like Jon Jones and Daniel? I don't know man

 

[ExitLUPin]

Cormier resumé at LHW ain't enough to be top 15

Hes top 15 IMO but top 10 no way. People saying top 5 or have DC 2nd @ LHW are braindead or dont know anything about the history of LHW division

His LHW resume is

4-0 Barista Patrick Cummins on short notice
Post TRT ban 45yo Hendo
Rumble twice
SD against Gus where he was nearly KOd and arguably lost
41yo Anderson on short notice off his couch to save UFC 200 who he lay and prayed w/ a 30-40lbs advantage and Andy landed by far the most significant moment of the fight when he hurt him with a body kick
Oezdemir

DC has only beaten 3 legit primed fighters @ LHW in Rumble, Gus, Oezdemir and only 2 of them were elite. None of his other wins @ LHW mean anything. Alex is far above him @ LHW. Objectively.

 

[ExitLUPin]

If DC only fought strikers that couldn't wrestle he'd be undefeated lol. Pereira fighting one style

Rumble and 4-0 barista Patrick Cummins (LMAO) are the only legit wrestlers DC beat @ LHW.

Post TRT ban 45yo Hendo, 41yo Anderson off the couch, Oezdemir and Gus cant wrestle. Gus could defensively he had TDD but offensively he can only hit a surprise TD here and there. He wrestling skillset and mat control were subpar.

Anthony Smith of all people outwrestled and finished Oezdemir 4 months after DC beat him and Anthony outwrestled and finished Gus 5 months after the Jon rematch. Gus and Oezdemir are the 2nd and 3rd best fighters DC beat @ LHW LMFAOOOOOO

Alex is far above DCs legacy @ LHW. Its not close. And Alex beat the lineal best LHW at the time in Jiri. DC was a placeholder for Jon and paper champ @ LHW.