1. The official Sherdog Store is back! Check it out! » Discuss it here! »
Violence/Genocide: Do not condone violence or genocide on a person or group of people. You are free to attack a person or groups ideas but you are crossing the line when calling for violence. This will be heavily enforced in threads with breaking news involving victims.

Crime What should happen to Arbery killers?

Discussion in 'The War Room' started by cooks1, Nov 17, 2021.

?

What should happen to Arbery's killers

  1. Life

    45.0%
  2. Death

    9.1%
  3. Significant Prison time (15-30 years)

    40.0%
  4. Couple years for being dumb hicks.

    4.5%
  5. No prison time, maybe probation or a suspended sentence for reckless endangerment or some such

    2.3%
  6. They should walk. It was self defense. One less criminal walking around.

    8.6%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. OldFashion Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2020
    Messages:
    2,267
    Likes Received:
    3,922
  2. cooks1 No matter where you go-there you are Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2007
    Messages:
    18,502
    Likes Received:
    3,433
    Location:
    St. Augustine, FL
    The law, even the old one, whether you like it or not, does not allow you to point a gun and threaten to shoot a person you are chasing in the course of making a citizens arrest. Even if that citizens arrest was justified and done legally. Which this one was not.

    There is a word for people that get together and do that. And that word is posse. The word has been colloquialized over the last century to mean a close group of friends or associates. But it used to be a bunch of people arming themselves and getting on horses to hunt someone down. And you should be delighted people can't just do that anymore.
     
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2021
    RemyR and salamander like this.
  3. Mike Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2010
    Messages:
    39,548
    Likes Received:
    14,427
    Location:
    Don't Give Up!
    For starters no, you're not allowed to relentlessly pursue someone brandishing a lethal weapon over misdemeanor trespass. A cop is a law enforcement officer, these guys weren't. They also struck him with a vehicle while committing illegal imprisonment. So you can add vehicular assault. And then after blocking his escape and hitting him with a vehicle, they approached him brandishing a weapon again.

    Those things are illegal. Yes, even there. Thats why they were convicted on felony charges for more than just murder. As a civilian you don't get to box someone in with no option for retreat, then say you fired in self defense when you are the aggressor. The felonies they racked up pursuing him were more serious than the misdemeanor they were pursuing him for.
     
    RemyR, cooks1, salamander and 2 others like this.
  4. Amerikuracana Life allows the illusion of relativity Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2007
    Messages:
    65,771
    Likes Received:
    8,674
    Location:
    Macomb mi
    I would have preferred a manslaughter to protect the rights of homeowners as crime skyrockets and mobs threaten the fabric of society, but you can’t run up on somebody that you aren’t sure has committed a felony.. Although my limited understanding is that Georgia has more liberal citizens arrest laws, which is a reason I though a manslaughter would be enough.
     
    RemyR likes this.
  5. Satanical Eve Cro Cop's Left Leg Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2009
    Messages:
    13,895
    Likes Received:
    1,749
    Location:
    Long Island, New York, USA
    Not surprised there are still people in here who are are defending the McMichael's and Bryan.
     
    Misfit23, salamander and Day Drinking like this.
  6. Jballer Red Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2009
    Messages:
    9,276
    Likes Received:
    2,309
    Location:
    NJ Transit train car #5351
    Nobody cares what you prefer larry.
     
    Misfit23, emefer and salamander like this.
  7. cooks1 No matter where you go-there you are Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2007
    Messages:
    18,502
    Likes Received:
    3,433
    Location:
    St. Augustine, FL
    What homeowner? None of these people owned the property (a home under construction) this guy was at. And none of them even saw him at it.
     
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2021
    salamander likes this.
  8. Mike Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2010
    Messages:
    39,548
    Likes Received:
    14,427
    Location:
    Don't Give Up!
    Yeah this was a neighbor, who didn't ask them to get involved. He testified to that. And to the fact that he didn't see the guy taking anything from his property on the surveillance footage.
     
    salamander and cooks1 like this.
  9. LMP 409 hype man Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2015
    Messages:
    14,774
    Likes Received:
    6,862
    Location:
    Missouri
    <36>
     
  10. Confucamus Last of the V8s Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2008
    Messages:
    17,096
    Likes Received:
    9,037
    Location:
    Beantown
    Based on the charges? Life in prison, IMO.
     
  11. aitkenmike Green Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2010
    Messages:
    1,011
    Likes Received:
    169
    The law THEN was that you had to have direct knowledge of the crime (i.e. Witness it happen in person) to apprehend in the moment, and to chase and arrest you had to have seen a FELONY in progress. Neither applies in this case. It's been analysed over and over.
     
    cooks1 likes this.
  12. salamander Serotonin Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2018
    Messages:
    3,928
    Likes Received:
    1,727
    Location:
    Nocturne
    They weren't cops tho, as proven beyond all reasonable doubt they were the actual criminals in the this case. The whole Dindu Nuffin defense curdled under the cold sterile light of Georgia legalism.

    You see, the law, whether you like or not, allows for a LAWFUL citizens arrest, but only based on a specific set of criteria.

    A criteria those three dumb yokels failed so miserably to achieve that all three of them will experience the hopelessness of jail for the majority of the rest of their lives.

    And being so soft, corpulent and easily frightened, their suffering will be unending. Their estates likely to be sued by by the family of the victim. Their relatives will have to bear the shame of their stupidity for a long time. A pall has been cast over their community.

    Totally worth defending a unoccupied house from the evil Hottentots.

    Being "racist" might not be illegal, but the law does not automatically forgive you for being a retard.

    To even think so is simply retarded.
     
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2021
  13. Queen B Fully Vaxxed/Boosted

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2014
    Messages:
    20,951
    Likes Received:
    4,303
    salamander likes this.
  14. aitkenmike Green Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2010
    Messages:
    1,011
    Likes Received:
    169
    He wasn't the homeowner. He was a neighbourhood yahoo. Even a construction site owner doesn't have a right in need of protecting to chase down and murder a trespassing lookie-loo
     
    salamander and cooks1 like this.
  15. Mike Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2010
    Messages:
    39,548
    Likes Received:
    14,427
    Location:
    Don't Give Up!
    They will of course ignore this because its not convenient. The same way they continue to ignore the vehicular assault. The law be damned, you can do whatever you want when you see someone committing a misdemeanor.
     
    cooks1 likes this.
  16. Merlotte's Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2009
    Messages:
    16,688
    Likes Received:
    7,519
    Location:
    Clap shack
  17. Amerikuracana Life allows the illusion of relativity Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2007
    Messages:
    65,771
    Likes Received:
    8,674
    Location:
    Macomb mi
    The father was a homeowner in the neighborhood. Different states have different manslaughter guidelines etc… So I’m not saying 4 years of a 10 year sentence would have been enough, but I don’t think they set out to murder this person, and hate crime? I don’t think so. But is what is, and hey, hope the cops show up quick when crime shoots you in your neighborhood.
     
    cooks1 likes this.
  18. emefer Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2013
    Messages:
    3,094
    Likes Received:
    646
    Location:
    I'm in the bathroom, where I take a shit.
    There was so much crime in the neighborhood that Travis the murderer left his handgun in his unlocked car and it was stolen. Lol. glad he’s gonna rot in jail.
     
  19. K1levelgrappler Red Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2015
    Messages:
    8,436
    Likes Received:
    7,707
  20. salamander Serotonin Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2018
    Messages:
    3,928
    Likes Received:
    1,727
    Location:
    Nocturne
    And drive after him, and hit him with your car, and block his escape, and point your gun at him?

    His Name is the Prince of Peace, not Frank fucking Castle.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.