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International Vance, Zelensky, Trump argue in front of press

Trump claimed the deal would be worth up to a a trillion $ for the US

Trump is a retard that just likes to say he's making billion and trillion dollar deals for headlines, he doesn't really care if they're ever actualized.

The reality is, even IF Ukraine has these rare earths in the imaginary quantities claimed by Trump, we're not going to single rock out of the ground for a decade or more in a war torn country like Ukraine.
 
Ok. Then Trump's has been beating his chest about making a worthless deal then.

It's one or the other, so you you chose.
You think trump actually understands what rare earths are? he probably remembers it from some presentation about china and thinks it's the same as coal or rocks.
 
Need vs want. Trump wants the minerals so that he can say he made a great deal instead if giving aid for free.
And he'll get it.
Z has no choice except to sign the deal.
Uh-huh.
Trump and Vance want him to give away the farm and grovel to make themselves feel like tuff guys
Well, when a country has given you over a billion dollars in aid, you probably don't want to go into negotiations with them with an attitude like you're owed something.
Oh and based on our debt, I'd say we need the money.
I don't know. It's gone from scary big to cartoonishly gargantuan and impossible to ever get under get under control, and America always seems to come out just fine(relatively speaking). I'm starting to think it's really not a big deal. I mean, when does it start really affecting America? A few hundred trillion? A quadrillion?
 
I think Trump is a "moran", but that article came from The Guardian.
yeah, who did nothing to actually verify but talk to some lady of the ukr GS, who went and opened three sets of rusty locks from a beaten down drawer from the bolshevik revolution and produced some studies made by USSR in 1974.
the guardian are just as guilty. the press is abysmal these days, believe nothing.
 
And he'll get it.

Uh-huh.

Well, when a country has given you over a billion dollars in aid, you probably don't want to go into negotiations with them with an attitude like you're owed something.

I don't know. It's gone from scary big to cartoonishly gargantuan and impossible to ever get under get under control, and America always seems to come out just fine(relatively speaking). I'm starting to think it's really not a big deal. I mean, when does it start really affecting America? A few hundred trillion? A quadrillion?

It seems the debt is never an issue when Republicans have control
 
It seems the debt is never an issue when Republicans have control
It's never an issue when either party has control. Both parties would probably hate it if it did somehow balance itself, because they would lose a campaign talking point.

My point is that it doesn't seem to matter in general. Apparently, you can operate just fine being $36 trillion dollars in the red.
 
yeah, who did nothing to actually verify but talk to some lady of the ukr GS, who went and opened three sets of rusty locks from a beaten down drawer from the bolshevik revolution and produced some studies made by USSR in 1974.
the guardian are just as guilty. the press is abysmal these days, believe nothing.

Ok, then you've decided that Trump is making a worthless deal. So the whole conversation is moot.
 
It's never an issue when either party has control. Both parties would probably hate it if it did somehow balance itself, because they would lose a campaign talking point.

My point is that it doesn't seem to matter in general. Apparently, you can operate just fine being $36 trillion dollars in the red.

But if Harris had won we (consevatives and republicans) would be howling about the debt.
 
it's moot cause i had to explain to you the facts. otherwise you'd still have been here posting those silly numbers.

Except your hero is bragging about making a worthless (according to you) deal.

And after he signs it, I assume we are still going to give Ukraine support for the "non existent" minerals.

Best negotiator ever.
 
It's never an issue when either party has control. Both parties would probably hate it if it did somehow balance itself, because they would lose a campaign talking point.

My point is that it doesn't seem to matter in general. Apparently, you can operate just fine being $36 trillion dollars in the red.
DEMs don't run on the debt, though.
 
Except your hero is bragging about making a worthless (according to you) deal.

And after he signs it, I assume we are still going to give Ukraine support for the "non existent" minerals.

Best negotiator ever.
lol @ my hero. i literally explained how he's an idiot in my previous posts.
perhaps you'd stop with the canned replies.
 
Sure, and Dems wouldn't. It's not the profound point you think it is. Both sides are hypocrites. It is known.

I seem to recall that you have made complaints about the national debt in the past as well.

I am consistent with my complaints about the debt regardless of who holds the WH.
 
Are you not in here defending Trumps actions?
i literally explained how it's a dumb deal and how he's an idiot.

serious question, are you stupid? we already established you're ignorant while quoting all that article shit without understanding anything.
 
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