International Vance, Zelensky, Trump argue in front of press

[N13]

You agree that people "just want to say 'orange man bad'"?

My version:

The enemy of my enemies is my friend. The enemy is the Globalists. Orange mang is destroying them.

After he is done, I'll have to reevaluate Trump.

It's not good guys vs bad guys. It's powerful forces fighting over the same turf, and the turf is the planet.

" the meek inherent the Earth " not the powerful.

 

[Hog-train]

I mean, this isn't even true at all, of the over ~700,000 Venezuelan migrants over 600,000 entered legally through the TPS program. There is just no reality that exists where ~100,000 Venezuelans make up any significant portion of the illegal migrants in the country.

I never claimed migrants never entered illegally, only that Trump's policies are going to encourage more to enter illegally including those who would have previously entered through legal channels.

That is completely untrue. They entered ILLEGALLY and then RETROACTIVELY were given TPS by Biden.

Even under Biden, they were still entering illegally far more than at legal ports of entry.

Unlawful border crossings by Venezuelans​

 

[PainIsLIfe]

What were you watching? Selensky got cross-examined.

"Yeah sure 3 days. I already heard from Putin". Lol

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Zelenskyy got destroyed

Messing with the wrong bull. Agreed to a deal and then tries to press Trump on TV.

This isn’t the behavior of a friend

If I come to your house to give you money and you send me away without getting it then you ain't no bull.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Unless this admin really shits the bed, he is a shoe in, the democrats have zero electable candidates right now.

Unless this admin gets prices down then the dems will be back in office. It's always the economy.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Zelenski's big mistake was starting the week mouthing off on X, thinking it's a dialogue among equals. then he made comments about this deal that trump designed and now he showed up i hear with intentions to get more out of the deal proposed by the americans.

so trump probably got pissed, and did something the romans used to do to conquered tribes - have your king come in, kiss the feet of the legionaire at the door, and then stand while the local consul berates you. pure humiliation, but it probably did the trick. zelenski probably won't say a peep for a while.

never seen something like this ever. zelenski thought he could come like he comes in front of the european parliament and just demand, demand, or else. looks like it's different in america now. obviously this could have been a shouting match between closed doors, but it wasn't on purpose. trump and vance knew what they were doing. absolutely brutal.

So you think Trump and Vance intended to look ignorant on purpose?

 

[ViD]

After watching the entire incident 3x, zelenskyy is saying that cesse fires have already been done and Putin never has cooperated. I can see how he thinks this shit wouldnt be enough.

What Zelensky says is total bullshit. Putin always keeps his word.



Also, see how nice it is to live under Zelensky in Ukraine

 

[PainIsLIfe]

damn.
it think this is also designed for future negotiations with other.

"look how i humiliated him. do you want to be next?"
a lot of people will be scared of it.

Trump just negotiated the US our of the rare mineraldeal that Z came there to sign. And that's with a guy that needed US funds.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Yeah Valiant effort. Brave guy. Sending 100's of 1000's of men to their deaths with the money of other countries while he flies around the world shaming everyone into starting WW3.

He's a fool. He overplayed his hand with the wrong people.

What are his options? Give away his country or send men to fight.

I think Trump overplayed his.
Trump: you won't last 2 weeks.
Zelensky: 3 days I already heard from Putin.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Trump just negotiated the US our of the rare mineraldeal that Z came there to sign. And that's with a guy that needed US funds.

Ukraine has no rare minerals. I don't know why people keep saying that. And he's coming back to sign it anyway.

 

[MMA IAN]

let's at least try not to spread false or dubious claims is all.

How so what? How is Trump on Putin's side? He's appointed people sympathetic to Putin like Gabbard and he's repeated Russian propaganda about how the war is Zelensky's fault and that he's a dictator. He's also trying to strong arm Ukraine into surrender.

Are common sense takes being sympathetic to Russia? Stating facts doesn't mean you support the Russian invasion. We know Russia had been warning NATO to stay away from its borders for years. We know ukraine was performing military operations against Russian separatists. Ukraine as well as Russia both failed to adhere to the Minsk agreement. The political coup in 2014 was a big fuck you to Russia, banning Russian language use in Ukraine despite their close ties was another big fuck you.

Nothing I just said makes me sympathetic to Russia and it doesn't make Gabbard sympathetic either.

 

[Croo67]

The dust has settled and Liberals are still desperately pushing for WW3, despite them being the least likely to ever fight for anything.

They probably think their poor physical state and multitude of medications will ensure they don’t get conscripted.

 

[pseto223]

The dust has settled and Liberals are still desperately pushing for WW3, despite them being the least likely to ever fight for anything.

They probably think their poor physical state and multitude of medications will ensure they don’t get conscripted.

I agree. Siding with Putin is the best way to achieve world piece, because Putin has never attacked anyone (and Russia has never attacked anyone as well). Trump has the Nobel prize in the bag, it will probably be named Trump peace price from next year on.

 

[nhbbear]

They will cry that it is 120 billion, 180 billion, 350 billion, they always try to use some goal post as a measures. Point is, a lot is unaccounted for and lost, and they also expect unlimited and unconditional support. No one can cite an actual official source, only news reports of potential expenses

I even made a thread in the summer of 2022 of how even CBS was reporting the blatant corruption, and the mods didn’t just move the thread, they deleted it all together.

2-3 years later, they all crying as the trump man cometh. It is beautiful.

That is why mods are so crybaby these days, because they are idiots who fell for every hoax, whether it be COVID, Russia hate, Ukraine war propaganda, it is endless at this point lol

I even had rational say we spent 300 billion just to house the equipment we are sending them, so we are saving money by doing that

 

[Squarechoke]

The dust has settled and Liberals are still desperately pushing for WW3, despite them being the least likely to ever fight for anything.

They probably think their poor physical state and multitude of medications will ensure they don’t get conscripted.

I'm still laughing at that people are so indoctrinated with fear that they think WW3 could happen due to this. It's even funnier when wimps shaking over that are calling other people wimps.

 

[Seano]

What are his options? Give away his country or send men to fight.

I think Trump overplayed his.
Trump: you won't last 2 weeks.
Zelensky: 3 days I already heard from Putin.

His options are-, IMO-
Continue as he has and lose more territory and men and gain nothing.

The rest of the world decides to risk nuclear annihilation for them.

They negotiate the best deal they can as the loser of this conflict.


That last option is the only realistic option and the only one that doesn't end with many deaths and billions of dollars spent.

 

[Seano]

I'm still laughing at that people are so indoctrinated with fear that they think WW3 could happen due to this. It's even funnier when wimps shaking over that are calling other people wimps.

You sound really tough in this text you sent from the comfort of your home.

 

[hitcher]

The point was that ours are not prone to terrorism. People argue that European migrants want the same thing you described.

The point being that Europe deals with terrorism and we deal with drugs and gang violence.

No, Europeans ALSO deal with drugs and gang violence.

 

[Islam Imamate]

It's just too much.

Your own image there specifies "encounters" which plays into RP's point.

Encounters are probably an okay metric to give us a sense of what the real numbers look like but you should acknowledge confounding variables here like the change in policy from encouraging migrants to seek out agents to the exact opposite.

Another issue with uncritically looking at these encounter stats is that many assume that the figures represent distinct individuals but if someone encounters a BP agent and gets turned away only to try again and run into another BP agent that's considered two separate encounters despite no migrants making it through.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Ukraine has no rare minerals. I don't know why people keep saying that. And he's coming back to sign it anyway.

I think it's based on wildly outdated and inaccurate Soviet era reports.