International Trump goes in on Putin

[Broke Lester]

Sovereignty from Russia. They make it pretty clear

See the post above yours, 52% want the war to end.

 

[Broke Lester]

Because I don't live in Ukraine.




Three years of killing russians is a clear indication of what they want.



I'm on record calling him and anyone who supports this position a coward.

Dude get a grip, you're probably ex-military? Brain washed much? Fuck'n pyscho, you're just way too excited about Russians being killed, it's what you want. @nostradumbass posted the survey, it's not what the majority of Ukrainians want, IIRC his wife is Ukrainian and I'm leaning towards believing him than a PYSCHO like you.

 

[Broke Lester]

Best post I think I’ve ever read from Trump, tbh.
And I’m glad he’s is giving Biden the credit he deserves for backing Ukraine in this mess. If there’s a deal to be brokered, one that’s not just giving Russia whatever they want, it’s mostly because we helped Ukraine and exposed Russia’s weak ass military.

You voted for Trump, didn't you? Be honest.

 

[jeremyemilio]

I think you go a bit far calling it literal disinformation, or even collusion. There’s no evidence that the Clinton campaign or DNC actively worked with Steele to create purposely false info. But the important point is this: the Steele Dossier is not relevant to the FBI or Mueller investigations. In other words, yes the FBI investigated every potential lead mentioned in the dossier because why wouldn’t they? But the dossier was not the basis of the investigation, nor does it being false negate anything that happened in that investigation.
The Steele Dossier was always known to be unverified intelligence.

I'm not talking about the Mueller investigation. I'm talking simply about the fact that the DNC and Hillary Clinton's campaign actively commissioned the report through Fusion GPS. It didn't come from nowhere. It was literal Russian misinformation paid for (and leaked) by the DNC and the Clinton Campaign... which, again, sounds like collusion.

 

[nostradumbass]

Dude get a grip, you're probably ex-military? Brain washed much? Fuck'n pyscho, you're just way too excited about Russians being killed, it's what you want. @nostradumbass posted the survey, it's not what the majority of Ukrainians want, IIRC his wife is Ukrainian and I'm leaning towards believing him than a PYSCHO like you.

I don't think he's ex-military, he's just some MSNBC mark having a nervous breakdown because Trump won the election.

 

[Helden]

See the post above yours, 52% want the war to end.

52% want the war to end =/= 52% want to surrender their country to Russia

 

[Darkballs]

Dude get a grip, you're probably ex-military? Brain washed much? Fuck'n pyscho, you're just way too excited about Russians being killed, it's what you want. @nostradumbass posted the survey, it's not what the majority of Ukrainians want, IIRC his wife is Ukrainian and I'm leaning towards believing him than a PYSCHO like you.

Nothing psychotic about rooting for the side that's fighting for it's independence.

But god damn, look at how far the republican party has fallen if that's your position. Military members are psycho's. People supporting freedom from a russian invader who targets civilians are psycho's.

Let me guess, anyone who didn't dodge the draft like donny is a psycho? Up is down, left is right, and the real heroes, are the guys who hide.

I don't think he's ex-military, he's just some MSNBC mark having a nervous breakdown because Trump won the election.

I don't know. He does seem to have the courage to tag people who he talks about. That's got to be an indication of something right?

Don't worry fellas. No one's gonna mistake either of you as someone who served.

 

[Broke Lester]

Nothing psychotic about rooting for the side that's fighting for it's independence.

But god damn, look at how far the republican party has fallen if that's your position. Military members are psycho's. People supporting freedom from a russian invader who targets civilians are psycho's.

Let me guess, anyone who didn't dodge the draft like donny is a psycho? Up is down, left is right, and the real heroes, are the guys who hide.

You're not rooting for Ukrainians or independence or anything else, your posts were pretty clear, you're only rooting for dead Russians, save me your BS. And for the record I'm not a republican or American, just a regular guy calling out a unhinged turd.

You don't even know what this war is about, Ukrainians are not your ally nor do you or your government on both sides give a shit about them. It's all about a buffer zone that the US is trying to occupy and cut down Russia's reaction time to any possible threats, the equivalent of the Cuban missile crisis.

 

[Darkballs]

You're not rooting for Ukrainians or independence or anything else, your posts were pretty clear, you're only rooting for dead Russians, save me your BS.

Pretty sure I mentioned Ukrainian independence as a goal in every post. Not sure why you consider that psychotic. It used to be the default position in America. It only seemed to change once we elected a draft dodger.

And for the record I'm not a republican or American, just a regular guy calling out a unhinged turd.

Sucks to be you then.

You don't even know what this war is about, Ukrainians are not your ally nor do you or your government on both sides give a shit about them. It's all about a buffer zone that the US is trying to occupy and cut down Russia's reaction time to any possible threats, the equivalent of the Cuban missile crisis.

That's rich. The country invading their neighbor and having hundreds of thousands to troops inside their border isn't the one looking to occupy them. It's actually the Americans!

And damn, it's the equivalent of the Cuban missile crisis?! I must have missed that part when the US snuck nukes into Ukraine. In fact, didn't the opposite happen? Like, Ukraine and Russia entered into an agreement years ago, where in exchange for giving up any nukes, russia swore to never invade?

Up is down, left is right, and the only true patriots are the ones that grovel before their russian betters!

 

[Broke Lester]

Pretty sure I mentioned Ukrainian independence as a goal in every post. Not sure why you consider that psychotic. It used to be the default position in America. It only seemed to change once we elected a draft dodger.



Sucks to be you then.



That's rich. The country invading their neighbor and having hundreds of thousands to troops inside their border isn't the one looking to occupy them. It's actually the Americans!

And damn, it's the equivalent of the Cuban missile crisis?! I must have missed that part when the US snuck nukes into Ukraine. In fact, didn't the opposite happen? Like, Ukraine and Russia entered into an agreement years ago, where in exchange for giving up any nukes, russia swore to never invade?

Up is down, left is right, and the only true patriots are the ones that grovel before their russian betters!

Freedom and independence like you guys brought to Iraq and Afghanistan?

Sucks to be me? Yeah sure, sucks so bad to live in a country where there isn't a mass shooting almost everyday.

And what exactly were the details of Russia and Ukraine's agreement?

Yeah and you must've missed where the US snuck the nukes into Ukraine cause they would of absolutely asked for your permission before doing so. Isn't that right Hero?

Don't be an ass, we both damn well know the US will set up a base there with missiles and all.

 

[Broke Lester]

52% want the war to end =/= 52% want to surrender their country to Russia

That's how democracy works. Or they can fight till the last Ukrainian for your and @Darkballs entertainment. You two can go and tell your friends how you did your part till the last Ukrainian fell. They might even give you guys some kind of participation medal.

 

[Darkballs]

That's how democracy works. Or they can fight till the last Ukrainian for your and @Darkballs entertainment. You two can go and tell your friends how you did your part till the last Ukrainian fell. They might even give you guys some kind of participation medal.

This only works if we believe your worst case scenario propaganda.

I think Ukraine is more than able to kill russians at a pace that will result in an eventual ceasefire without the need for concessions. We might even get a bonus of the russian economy collapsing the putin getting tossed out of power by one means or another.

The notion that russia will kill everyone unless they give up is profoundly stupid.

 

[Helden]

That's how democracy works. Or they can fight till the last Ukrainian for your and @Darkballs entertainment. You two can go and tell your friends how you did your part till the last Ukrainian fell. They might even give you guys some kind of participation medal.

Saying you want the war to end doesn't mean you want to surrender, what are you on about?

 

[DoctorTaco]

See the post above yours, 52% want the war to end.

Behind a pay wall. Couldn’t read the article to see where they got the numbers or how the survey was conducted.

 

[Broke Lester]

Saying you want the war to end doesn't mean you want to surrender, what are you on about?

I never said they should surrender either, only that they should negotiate and come to a resolution. Must've been a misunderstanding then cause it seems we're on the same page.

 

[DoctorTaco]

I never said they should surrender either, only that they should negotiate and come to a resolution. Must've been a misunderstanding then cause it seems we're on the same page.

How could you ever trust that Russia wouldn’t take more when their forced and economy recover?

 

[Xanzito]

This only works if we believe your worst case scenario propaganda.

I think Ukraine is more than able to kill russians at a pace that will result in an eventual ceasefire without the need for concessions. We might even get a bonus of the russian economy collapsing the putin getting tossed out of power by one means or another.

The notion that russia will kill everyone unless they give up is profoundly stupid.

As Khabib would say, "Ukraine 30 million. Russia 140 million."
It's math, really. Why waste more ukranian lives for the same end result. Ukraine showed resistance, it's way better positioned for a good deal, make the deal and finish this mess.

 

[Helden]

I never said they should surrender either, only that they should negotiate and come to a resolution. Must've been a misunderstanding then cause it seems we're on the same page.

A negotiation that isn't a one sided one that only benefits Russia. Otherwise there's literally nothing stopping them from pulling this shit again a year later.

A NATO membership for Ukraine would do that, but Putin would never accept it.

 

[Broke Lester]

This only works if we believe your worst case scenario propaganda.

I think Ukraine is more than able to kill russians at a pace that will result in an eventual ceasefire without the need for concessions. We might even get a bonus of the russian economy collapsing the putin getting tossed out of power by one means or another.

The notion that russia will kill everyone unless they give up is profoundly stupid.

It's not my propaganda, I think they should negotiate and find a resolution. Not surrender. Then you went mental and started going on about dead Russians, killing Russians, 800K dead Russians, Ukrainians killing Russians. Independence and all. Then you were shown a survey that 52% want the war to end and you still insisted that they wanted to fight.

When did I say that Russia will kill everyone? You're just making shit up, I called you out for sounding like a Pyscho.
I knew I was correct, you are some brainwashed ex-military, as soon as you hear Russians, it sets you off.

 

[Broke Lester]

A negotiation that isn't a one sided one that only benefits Russia. Otherwise there's literally nothing stopping them from pulling this shit again a year later.

A NATO membership for Ukraine would do that, but Putin would never accept it.

Because then NATO will build a military base within striking distance of Russia.
Yes I agree, the negotiations should be equal.