Tom Aspinall: How I’m mentally different from #UFC321 foe Ciryl Gane

Blaydes and Volkov have more top ten wins than Islam Makhachev. Pavlovich was on the longest first-round knockout win streak in UFC history (6) when he lost to Aspinall. The idea that he never faced elite opponents is nonsense.
Those are called good wins, not elite wins like they were pointing out.

It’s fair to say Tom doesn’t yet have any elite wins. Not necessarily his problem as the division sucks, but it’s still true.
 
I think that was for Stipe Miocic.
The point is that even if he hadn’t fought Stipe Tom would’ve been out for a year regardless trying to wait for Jon who could fight neither of them until Nov 2024.

As with every interim champ. They were made interim entirely off the basis the champ can’t fight and so they’ll being sitting out until otherwise unless they defend.

Jon is the first champ in history who is somehow being faulted not fighting the interim when he couldn’t fight anybody. Blame him for Nov 2024-June 2025 but that’s it.
 
The point is that even if he hadn’t fought Stipe Tom would’ve been out for a year regardless trying to wait for Jon who could fight neither of them until Nov 2024.

As with every interim champ. They were made interim entirely off the basis the champ can’t fight and so they’ll being sitting out until otherwise unless they defend.

Jon is the first champ in history who is somehow being faulted not fighting the interim when he couldn’t fight anybody. Blame him for Nov 2024-June 2025 but that’s it.
Alright? My original point was talking about Tom chose to try and get the belts unified instead of doing a movie, which is what Cyril did.
 
It's hard for them to walk back calling Gane a can for the last 2 years to try and discredit Jon.
Most “fans” of Aspinall are just bunch leeches, they latch unto the next avatar for their Jones hate. They did this with Ngannou, Gane and now Aspinall, taking a look at Ngannous PPV numbers and the fact he’s very irrelevant when it comes to MMA talk, a few years ago you could swear Ngannou was the biggest draw in MMA with the amount of traffic he was getting from the so called “fans” of his. If Gane wins against Aspinall, they’re going flip flop again, claiming Jones is ducking a rematch with Gane, and probably use the excuse that Gane was not in his prime or some shit.
 
Alright? My original point was talking about Tom chose to try and get the belts unified instead of doing a movie, which is what Cyril did.
And my point is he had a year he could’ve done the movie while Jon was out from injury anyways and couldn’t unify
 
And my point is he had a year he could’ve done the movie while Jon was out from injury anyways and couldn’t unify
They easily could've picked a date while Jon healed.
 
Yes I have heard Dana say this, and I do believe it to be true since no one has tried argue otherwise. But that could be manipulated any number of ways. Is that 3 fights every fiscal year? Calendar year? Or is it based off the date from which his contract was signed? Does the standby pay count as one fight in this arrangement? If so, one could easily see how the 3 fight obligation was met by the UFC. At worst, they may have had to compensate him for one fight while the Jon situation was being sorted out.

Tom claims he was told ‘3 or 4 times” that the fight was on; well which was it? You’d think he’d remember a detail like that.

Like most things, there’s three sides to any story, and in this case, we only have Tom’s side. I have no doubt he was given assurances to some degree. But at what point does one just say “fuck it” and ask for another fight? He’s within his rights to do so. Defending an interim for a second time is not ideal, but it’s not unprecedented. I believe that Barao did it. Also, knowing that you’re dealing with someone like Jon, why would you leave your fate in his hands and not try to advocate for yourself? Fighters do it all the time.

In the end, this isn’t really a hill I need to die on. Tom was compensated for being standby and really only lost 5 months to date which isn’t the worst thing in terms of earnings. I just think he was somewhat complicit for going along for the ride and not being more vocal, sooner, in way of outspokenly seeking another opponent. We all knew Jon was stalling. That’s just my opinion though. I still like Tom and look forward to seeing him achieve greatness.

Fair enough. To me, a bigger point is that we aren't talking about a long time huge star here. Aspinall only became a name anyone knew recently, and a lot of that is because of this situation we're talking about. That means he really didn't have much leverage in terms of seeking another opponent. If Dana stares you down and says "We're paying you to sit because we're getting this Jones fight made. So, sit."---if you're not someone who's already had a long UFC career and made a lot of $, you're likely gonna just acquiesce and not pushing your luck.
 
Most “fans” of Aspinall are just bunch leeches, they latch unto the next avatar for their Jones hate. They did this with Ngannou, Gane and now Aspinall, taking a look at Ngannous PPV numbers and the fact he’s very irrelevant when it comes to MMA talk, a few years ago you could swear Ngannou was the biggest draw in MMA with the amount of traffic he was getting from the so called “fans” of his. If Gane wins against Aspinall, they’re going flip flop again, claiming Jones is ducking a rematch with Gane, and probably use the excuse that Gane was not in his prime or some shit.

Ever think some fans just wanna see exciting fighters that KO opponents?

Jones is done fighting...or maybe not...but whatever. Either way he stopped mattering to plenty of us when he decided he didn't want to unify. So whatever happens with the division going forward, it has nothing to do with Jones. I'm interested to see Almeida/Aspinall actually (I think both win their next fights and that's the next HW title fight).

If you wanna believe no fans actually care about the active, relevant fighters that's fine but you're wrong.
 
Most “fans” of Aspinall are just bunch leeches, they latch unto the next avatar for their Jones hate. They did this with Ngannou, Gane and now Aspinall, taking a look at Ngannous PPV numbers and the fact he’s very irrelevant when it comes to MMA talk, a few years ago you could swear Ngannou was the biggest draw in MMA with the amount of traffic he was getting from the so called “fans” of his. If Gane wins against Aspinall, they’re going flip flop again, claiming Jones is ducking a rematch with Gane, and probably use the excuse that Gane was not in his prime or some shit.

No. They're honest cultists, as you can see in this thread. They have extremely high IQs and low excitability. They don't hate Jones at all, but they've simply supported Aspinall since childhood, on his way to becoming a GOAT with an 18-0 record. And most importantly, the level of opposition is very high. They're not clowns by any means. <escalate99>
 
If Gane beats Aspinall it's gonna make Jon Jones look like a genius & it's gonna break this website for a day.
 
Wish I was more excited for the Heavyweight championship fight between two top young guys…

But honestly I’m more excited for the fact it’s Britain vs France 😝
 
If Gane beats Aspinall it's gonna make Jon Jones look like a genius & it's gonna break this website for a day.

True. But what will likely happen is Tom starches Gane in circa 60 seconds and the website breaks as everyone realises Jones v Aspinall is the only fight of interest left at heavyweight.
 
True. But what will likely happen is Tom starches Gane in circa 60 seconds and the website breaks as everyone realises Jones v Aspinall is the only fight of interest left at heavyweight.
Not if Pereira is in the mix...
 
Why should an interim champ defend even once when there’s a “real” champ? And ok, he did and that’s pretty much uncharted territory on its own but twice? Nah.
Renan Barao defended his interim belt twice.
 
Renan Barao defended his interim belt twice.
Cruz was a dominant champ who was hurt multiple times with 5 defences. It’s not like he was active, fighting other guys or calling out other guys. He had every intention of defending that belt.

Jon blatantly ducked Tom.
 
Ever think some fans just wanna see exciting fighters that KO opponents?
Sure, that explains why GLORY is the most watched combat sport & explains why Ngannou sold XX amount of PPV’s in the PFL.

Offcourse everyone wants to see exciting fighters who KO opponents, but it’s clear there’s a good handful of people on the bandwagon is entirely on it for their disdain for Jones.
Jones is done fighting...or maybe not...but whatever. Either way he stopped mattering to plenty of us when he decided he didn't want to unify.
Sure, i don’t believe that one bit, if Jones vs Pereira was announced right now, people will shit on, claim they won’t watch it, deep down you know they will tune in
So whatever happens with the division going forward, it has nothing to do with Jones. I'm interested to see Almeida/Aspinall actually (I think both win their next fights and that's the next HW title fight).
Aspinall vs Almeida is the only fight that is interesting, i agree. but outside of that there really isn’t much to get excited for Aspinall to fight other than Jones & Pereira.
If you wanna believe no fans actually care about the active, relevant fighters that's fine but you're wrong.
i didn’t say that they dont care about active, relevant fighters. There’s tons of active relevant fighters the likes of Holland & Buckley, yet they don’t have giant fan bases, All im saying is that a lot of traffic from fans that Ngannou & Gane got when they were in talks of fighting Jones, were of hate for Jones first and then fan of the fighter secondary. Ngannous PPV kinda proved a point.
 
Sure, that explains why GLORY is the most watched combat sport & explains why Ngannou sold XX amount of PPV’s in the PFL.

Offcourse everyone wants to see exciting fighters who KO opponents, but it’s clear there’s a good handful of people on the bandwagon is entirely on it for their disdain for Jones.

Sure, i don’t believe that one bit, if Jones vs Pereira was announced right now, people will shit on, claim they won’t watch it, deep down you know they will tune in

Aspinall vs Almeida is the only fight that is interesting, i agree. but outside of that there really isn’t much to get excited for Aspinall to fight other than Jones & Pereira.

i didn’t say that they dont care about active, relevant fighters. There’s tons of active relevant fighters the likes of Holland & Buckley, yet they don’t have giant fan bases, All im saying is that a lot of traffic from fans that Ngannou & Gane got when they were in talks of fighting Jones, were of hate for Jones first and then fan of the fighter secondary. Ngannous PPV kinda proved a point.

I mean, the biggest star of the UFC is the UFC. The brand. Ngannou might not be a huge draw, but most of that is the PFL barely even registering compared to the UFC.

I never said I wouldn't watch Jones/Pereira. I absolutely would. It's a "fun" fight just for thr hell of it. Two legends. Neither has fallen off a cliff yet like Stipe had when he fought Jones. Id watch, I'd be entertained, it just wouldn't hold relevance as far as the hierarchy of the division unless the winner agreed to fight Aspinall after (or whoever is HW champ if they beat Aspinall).
 
I really like Tom but this is kind of silly. Yes Cyril took time off to film a movie but at least he was getting paid. Tom took over a year off for FREE to rally for a TS and film Youtube video's because he didn't want to defend his Interim again. At least Cyril was getting paid to take the time off, mean while Tom voluntarily did so for FREE.
If UFC don't offer you 3 fights a year they breach contract and owe you money

UfC were paying Tom not to fight too
 
He chose to sit out because he was under the impression that Dana would get Jon to fight. Turns out it wasn't the right choice, but Tom wanted to unify the belts.
Why was it not the right choice?
Tom got paid not to fight
Got the undisputed HW title
Jones retired in fear and disgrace
The UFC wouldn't offer Tom anyone else
So the only alternative would be to breach his UFC contract, fight in some other promotion and get sued to hell

Whilst Tom didnt really have a choice as the UFC wouldn't match him with anyone else, it couldn't really have worked out any better for him. The only way it could be better is if he fought and beat Jon, but Jon preferred to retire in terror. No choice for Tom there

With what was in his control, it was the perfect outcome for Tom
 
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"I'd turn down 50 million dollars to film a documentary"

"I never actually wanted to fight Jones"

"my inactivity and lack of film is my strength"

"I have a huge announcement.... I'm selling suppliments now"

This might be one of the most mentally weak fighters on the roster. If he starts yapping about guns or aliens I'm going to lose my shit 😂
Fucked his knee against Blaydes

Came back a couple of fights after fucking his knee and obliterated Blaydes in a minute

"Mentally weak"? You arent in a position to be talking about anyone's mental abilities buddy;)
 
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