Law To mask, or unmask. Bill targets ICE agents use of face masks.

Yes. Protestors who mask up should get the same criticism as law enforcement who mask up.

However, keep in mind, one group are masking up in the capacity of their duties/job, so to me that's even more egregious. When you have a job, and are on duty, you should be held to a HIGHER standard in regards to code of Conduct and policy.

If you're in fear of your life, find another job.
Then you make it impossible to do certain jobs. Not many people want to arrest dangerous criminals while being easily identified. They should be able to identify as official law enforcement though. Anyone larping as law enforcement or 'peaceful' protestors wearing masks should simply be given harsher punishment.

Law enforcement needs special privliges to do their job. They still need to be held accountable though, but that's not a matter of showing your face or not.
 
Law enforcement needs special privliges to do their job. They still need to be held accountable though, but that's not a matter of showing your face or not.

They have the special privilege. Gun and badge that comes with authority and power and control. That's special privilege.

As long as they identify, name rank shield....I don't have an issue if they mask up for the sake of masking up.
 

Masks For Them, Not For Us​

The double standard on masks for rioters, but not law enforcement.​



.....Those are actual states of “lawlessness” in which the masked offenders enjoy the political protection and sanction of political interests in their party. The actual “attack on democracy” happens when there are different rules for different people based on their proximity to power.

During the pandemic, we witnessed plenty of cases of “masks for them, not for us.” Since then, the formula for who has to wear a mask and who doesn’t has been reversed several times based on whether masks enable or obstruct the tactics and strategies of the Left. But the one thing that holds true five years later is that masks and their rules are still not for everyone.

There are either masks for them, but not for us, or masks for us, but not for them.
 
Then you make it impossible to do certain jobs. Not many people want to arrest dangerous criminals while being easily identified. They should be able to identify as official law enforcement though. Anyone larping as law enforcement or 'peaceful' protestors wearing masks should simply be given harsher punishment.

Law enforcement needs special privliges to do their job. They still need to be held accountable though, but that's not a matter of showing your face or not.
"Dangerous criminals" and they're talking about laborers at Home Depot and people voluntarily showing up for immigration appointments.
 
This is one of the rare cases where I miss libertarians. They'll call out this bullshit quickly.
Nope, libertarians are largely useless as they folded before the populists with hardly a peep.

In the end it was neocons more than tradcons and libertarians who stood most firmly against the populist rot, perhaps because they had the most to lose
 
So you want only illegals that have criminal records to be deported and everyone else that snuck in can stay permanently?
If they're fleeing socialism(Cuba, Nicaragua), state collapse(Haiti), or both (Venezuela) then they should get TPS which should be extended indefinitely so long as they behave and their country remains in the gutter. America gets to dunk on socialism and get cheap labor, win-win.
 
I honestly believe that the agent in question would be disciplined/fired/charged depending on how egregious the issue is.
Trump pardoned Blackwater agents convicted of a massacre of civilians in Iraq but you think roughing up an immigrant of all people is where he'd draw the line? Come on now.
 
Senators Alex Padilla and Corey booker have introduced a bill that prohibits ICE agents from wearing face coverings, must have name tag visible, agency affiliation, and other requirements. Dubbed, the visible act of 2025, comes on the heels of the recent attack on agents where a police officer was shot in the neck. It also comes on the heels of several other democrat bills called the “no secret police act” and “no anonymity act” were introduced.

“ICE noted that assaults against its agents have increased by nearly 700%. The agency attributed this sharp rise to the recent demonization of ICE.

Several high-profile threats have been made against ICE agents in just the past few months. A Texas man was arrested in April after he allegedly threatened to open fire on any ICE agents he sees in his neighborhood. In a social media post, he allegedly referred to deportation officers as the “secret police.”


A New York man was also arrested and charged in July for allegedly making online posts threatening to kill ICE agents. In one post about an ICE raid, he allegedly said he could’t “wait to put a bullet into this guy’s brain, but first his children” and in another post, he allegedly said “Kill them all, ICE is the new age gestapo, stop them.”


The threat against ICE agents became all the more real when nearly a dozen violent assailants, equipped with tactical gear and weapons, ambushed an ICE facility in Alvarado, Texas, on July 4, resulting in one local police officer getting shot in the neck after they unloaded rounds of bullets at agents. Authorities have since arrested and charged at least ten suspects in the apparent coordinated attack.”

Here’s my thoughts on this. Let the agents keep their face masks and names off of uniforms, but require them to have a badge number and agency displayed on a uniform or tactical vest. My reasoning for the masks and name restrictions is because agents WILL BE DOXXED by people, most notably, antifa, and THEY WILL HAVE THEIR FAMILIES THREATENED AND PROPERTY ATTACKED. It’s an officer safety issue. I don’t buy the argument that people think others are being kidnapped. They know damn well that it’s ICE agents doing their job when they have some kicking and screaming person that speaks zero English. That’s semantics and propaganda. They want agents unmasked hoping that agents will quit or refuse to do the job for fear of being attacked off duty.

I don’t like that ICE is snagging people off of the streets left and right that aren’t engaging in constant criminal activity. They are grabbing people that have been here for years and have not been in trouble with the law. By all means, you have some little shit from some other country here illegally and constantly stealing or attacking people, driving drunk, killing our citizens-snag them the fuck up and ship them out of here, and immediately. While they’re waiting to be deported-our them on alligator island- it leave the normal, working people the fuck alone….for now. They can wait. It’s no secret that I don’t like trump or his policies and I certainly don’t like the way he is conducting this war on illegal immigrants seemingly haphazardly. Actual US citizens are also catching strays when they are mistaken for an illegal because of their appearance and that is unconstitutional in my opinion.




https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/...-against-agents/ar-AA1Ii02g?ocid=BingNewsSerp
ICE agents are an unconstitutional outfit to begin with ,basically kidnapping and threatening anyone they want which breaks federal laws and law abiding citizens rights under the constitution.


Getting someone’s badge number contradicts your statement of letting them disguise themselves ( that’s just ridiculous in itself ) bc like official law enforcement you can get any REAL law enforcement personnel information on the badge number .

The reason they are hiding their face because they aren’t actually law enforcement they are hired thugs who break laws to get bonus money if they arrest a certain number of people daily , they should be worried because they know what they’re doing is illegal .


Retaliation against this regime is a necessity at this point unless they start actually stop kidnapping whoever they like and being a terrorist organized because that’s what they literally are on our own home turf , there is no officer safety issue because these are a rogue outfit giving the green light by Trump they are not recognized as a real anything I’m not even sure how the Supreme Court has let this go on really from the get go .
 
"Dangerous criminals" and they're talking about laborers at Home Depot and people voluntarily showing up for immigration appointments.
That is not true.

There is a heavy anti-ice sentiment and people have threatened to kill ice officers and actually ambushed them etc. And you wonder why they want to work anonymously..

Ambush on ice:

Murder attempt by dangerous illegal:

Edit: here you have an actual murder on ice officer

Now go talk BS about how safe it is again.
 
ICE agents are an unconstitutional outfit to begin with ,basically kidnapping and threatening anyone they want which breaks federal laws and law abiding citizens rights under the constitution.


Getting someone’s badge number contradicts your statement of letting them disguise themselves ( that’s just ridiculous in itself ) bc like official law enforcement you can get any REAL law enforcement personnel information on the badge number .

The reason they are hiding their face because they aren’t actually law enforcement they are hired thugs who break laws to get bonus money if they arrest a certain number of people daily , they should be worried because they know what they’re doing is illegal .


Retaliation against this regime is a necessity at this point unless they start actually stop kidnapping whoever they like and being a terrorist organized because that’s what they literally are on our own home turf , there is no officer safety issue because these are a rogue outfit giving the green light by Trump they are not recognized as a real anything I’m not even sure how the Supreme Court has let this go on really from the get go .

Wait, so you’re claiming that the ICE agents aren’t really ice agents but are instead thugs hired to act like ice agents to meet quotas? And your saying that retaliation is necessary at this point because these “rogue/fake” agents aren’t real agents, so there really is no officer safety issue?

Ok, what does retaliation look like to you? What’s an appropriate response? Let’s say you see rogue agents detaining someone on the side of the parking lot you are walking in-what do you do?
 
So left want to unmask ICE agents so people can harass them an their families at home for doing job. A job most America wants them to do. Yet they will fight for civilians to wear masks anywhere they want .

Like every other left agenda now a days its upside down world looney tunes. Proving again Trump mentally broke the democrat party.
 
If they're fleeing socialism(Cuba, Nicaragua), state collapse(Haiti), or both (Venezuela) then they should get TPS which should be extended indefinitely so long as they behave and their country remains in the gutter. America gets to dunk on socialism and get cheap labor, win-win.

You're basically proposing a system where people will constantly illegally immigrate because they have nothing to lose. It's a win win for them. Zero penalty for illegally sneaking in.

Meanwhile, US citizens end up paying for them.
 
Wait, so you’re claiming that the ICE agents aren’t really ice agents but are instead thugs hired to act like ice agents to meet quotas? And your saying that retaliation is necessary at this point because these “rogue/fake” agents aren’t real agents, so there really is no officer safety issue?

Ok, what does retaliation look like to you? What’s an appropriate response? Let’s say you see rogue agents detaining someone on the side of the parking lot you are walking in-what do you do?


He's not the first person I've seen say this

@fingercuffs was on here a while back talking about the proud boys are wearing masks and kidnapping any brown person they see.

I don't know where they are getting this from. I try not to trap myself in an echo chamber and I haven't seen this story come up.
 
These are America's doing their requested job to help America, they should show their faces and anyone who breaks laws in attempts to stop or undermine their efforts should see severe punishment. If these agents are breaking laws then they should see severe punishments. There's no reason any of this should devolve to violence... We are responsible for our actions. I might sign up as an Ice agent, how much do they make? The first place I'm looking is the busses in the back of the Tractor Supply parking lot...
 
You're basically proposing a system where people will constantly illegally immigrate because they have nothing to lose. It's a win win for them. Zero penalty for illegally sneaking in.
Well Biden put in place a system to facilitate asylum claims which granted TPS so they didn't have to sneak in, I like that better obviously.
Meanwhile, US citizens end up paying for them.
They end up working if you'll let them.
 
He's not the first person I've seen say this

@fingercuffs was on here a while back talking about the proud boys are wearing masks and kidnapping any brown person they see.

I don't know where they are getting this from. I try not to trap myself in an echo chamber and I haven't seen this story come up.

Honestly, I was in disbelief at what I was reading, hence my request for clarification
 
Well Biden put in place a system to facilitate asylum claims which granted TPS so they didn't have to sneak in, I like that better obviously.

You and I both know the asylum system is broken because they don't have enough judges or infrastructure to handle all the claims.

So anyone with an asylum claim ends up staying years and years. On average, it takes 5 years to see an immigration judge for asylum, then there are appeals and all that.

On top of that, many who eventually lose all their asylum appeals and get a final deportation order, STILL stay in the country illegally - 1.4 million with final deportation orders in the country.

A lot of them who got a final deportation order end up getting temporary stays on their deportation which they constantly renew. Now that Trump is in office, those with final deportation orders are not getting their stays renewed. That is what's happening with those people picked up at immigration court.

So basically anyone who gets TPS and then simply applies for asylum is in reality just getting defacto residency in the country.

They end up working if you'll let them.

Whatever meager taxes they pay will not cover the plethora of government services they end up taking.
 
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Only 7% of immigrants arrested had a violent criminal record. Cool fan fiction. Did you steal it from Tim Pool or CatTurd. There was a higher percentage of violent crimes committed by J6ers and they got pardoned. Any immigrant who commits a crime should be deported but your post reads like some shit a MAGA influencer would post, totally devoid of facts.
I voted expecting this to happen, for trump to make immigration deportations work, he's going to have to go after the non criminals hard, thanks for letting me know that Trump is exceeding expectations l@nd0
 
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