Law California Lawmakers Pass a Mask Ban for Law Enforcement

[chardog]

LOL wrote by Scott Weiner it makes sense now. The legendary retard doesn't even know what federal means apparently.

Gotta throw soy at the constituents, he knows

 

[avenue94]

Why dont we go with a famous one
KNIGHTS OF KU KLUX KLAN v. Kerik
CHURCH OF AMER. KNIGHTS OF KU KLUX KLAN v. Kerik.

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp2/232/205/2521217/

...Did you not read the case you claimed supports your argument? It literally says in the first paragraph: For the following reasons, plaintiff's motion for summary judgment is GRANTED and defendants' motion is DENIED.

Or to further illustrate why these laws fail even modest scrutiny:

"In short, if there is a state interest, it fails to satisfy the standard required to justify an infringement on political speech. Thus, while the defendants are, of course, mandated to enforce laws punishing disorderly and criminal behavior directly, the First Amendment vitiates the jurisdiction of the anti-mask statute as a means of doing so indirectly.

 

[Hog-train]

And? The question stands. What democracies have roving raids from masked police officers on primarily non-violent criminals?

A lot of the illegals being detained are actually criminals. And even non-criminals can freak out or get violent during an arrest.

Violent or non-violent doesn't matter. They're getting arrested because they're illegal.

 

[avenue94]

A lot of the illegals being detained are actually criminals. And even non-criminals can freak out or get violent during an arrest.

Violent or non-violent doesn't matter. They're getting arrested because they're illegal.

Most arrests will be quite routine and not violent. Ergo, public transparency outweighs officer privacy in my books. Not to mention California wants this policy, so democracy in action (excepting the federal part that will probably get struck).

Again, can you name any advanced democracy where police raids in broad daylight for nonviolent crimes require masked police?

 

[Seano]

Well there, now those law enforcement officers will think twice about enforcing the law. Checkmate, MAGA.

 

[aitkenmike]

Masked Police outside of specific circumstances is an affront to free democratic society. The fact that supposed don't tread on me 2nd amendment is needed to see off tyranical Government Conservatives support this because they are targeting the 'other' is not at all surprising, but shows their hypocrisy.

 

[oldshadow]

...Did you not read the case you claimed supports your argument? It literally says in the first paragraph: For the following reasons, plaintiff's motion for summary judgment is GRANTED and defendants' motion is DENIED.

Or to further illustrate why these laws fail even modest scrutiny:

"In short, if there is a state interest, it fails to satisfy the standard required to justify an infringement on political speech. Thus, while the defendants are, of course, mandated to enforce laws punishing disorderly and criminal behavior directly, the First Amendment vitiates the jurisdiction of the anti-mask statute as a means of doing so indirectly.

Again why do mask laws still stand in states today.


The court ruled the law did not violate their rights.

Just to make it clear to you.

The district court ruled the KKK could wear the mask.

The appeals court overruled that and said the mask law was constitution.

The KKK appealed to the Supreme court and they refused to hear it.

This new law banning mask on law enforcement is not unconstitutional. It exceeds a states authority to control an agency they have no authority over.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

It can be, but transparency has its costs. If a police officer is uncomfortable showing their face in the communities they serve, they are free to quit.

Lol. If protesters are uncomfortable showing their face then they can stay home.

A badge is sufficient id.

Because those are much more likely to involve violent criminals and criminal organizations.

It can be, but transparency has its costs. If a police officer is uncomfortable showing their face in the communities they serve, they are free to quit.


Should I take you continuously refusing to answer these simple questions as a lack of knowledge on the issues?

Did I really need to say more than I know why the liquor stores were open? FFS, they were open for alcoholics because it can be dangerous to quit cold.


And I posted a picture of a Belgian police officer. If you aren't aware they are a developed democracy.

 

[TrueBias]

Covid and that lock down for 2 weeks have made the retard population known.

Jk7707 was front in line too

 

[Confucamus]

Masked Police outside of specific circumstances is an affront to free democratic society. The fact that supposed don't tread on me 2nd amendment is needed to see off tyranical Government Conservatives support this because they are targeting the 'other' is not at all surprising, but shows their hypocrisy.

What specific circumstances would you be okay with them wearing masks?

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Oh look, another lefty that wants to target law enforcement while they hide their own face.

You realize that they mandated mask for covid. Even arrested a guy surfing by himself.

The point is that citizens have rights. Law Enforcement serves the public so they are held to a different standard.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

And bull shit on a compelling reason to take away my rights.

So it was just a flu bro?

 

[djacobox372]

Constitutionally the ONLY reason the federal government can use military in a state against the states wishes is if they evoke the "insurrection act."

Which basically means Trump is declaring a civil war.

 

[Sinister]

What specific circumstances would you be okay with them wearing masks?

When they're dealing with suspected (vetted) organized crime participants, or vetted members of terrorist organizations. And I don't mean whomever a political party is rhetorically referring to as terrorists, or misrepresenting the term to fit a political narrative against people who arent terrorizing anyone. I train 3 Brothers whose Father came here illegally, and the reason why is because he was a former Federale, armed and trained by the US to fight the Cartels. His entire unit were targeted and assassinated by the Cartels, he was the only one that survived. Now when dealing with organized crime on that level I can understand police being masked or their identities being protected, even if I disagree that drug selling should be a crime.

The idea of ICE being masked is not that. It's purely an intimidation tactic and an escape from accountability/transparency so an agency can just shrug their shoulders as to what happened to people.

Bye the way the reason my students' Father came here illegally is because the US were dragging @ss on giving asylum to a former officer trained by us, fighting a drug War we created by exporting out drug policies to Mexico. He's dead now, died earlier this year from alcoholism. The oldest Brother said he hit a massive downward spiral when he found out about the last friend from his unit being killed. So it's pretty nice to see how some people would find out that a guy like that is here illegally and would callously demand his expulsion.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

Very good, more states should follow suit and challenge masked Feds being sent into their states.

- I'm surprised theres not people pretending to be ICE and comiting crimes. Or even ICE agenst comting crimes in anonimity

 

[LeonardoBjj]

- Isnt that the Foot Clan from TMNT?

 

[pv3Hpv3p]

How about a mask ban for protesters and people shopping (in public) while we're getting shit done?

 

[Flower2dPeople]

- Isnt that the Foot Clan from TMNT?

Akatsuki.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

So it was just a flu bro?

Not even close to what I said.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

No, they don't have authority over feds. Newsom will not sign this. He's not going to fight a battle he knows he can't win- he's getting ready to run against JD Vance in '28.

If he does, will only further hurt his chances for 2028. His whole thing now is to stand up to Trump and mock with a bizarre Twitter account.

That was just months after a failed attempt to revamp his image with a podcast, his first guest being none other than Charlie kirk, Newsom in awe of Kirk’s ability to organize and galvanize the young males of this country.