Crime Woman fleeing from ICE officers trying to detain her, fake news lies to manipulate narrative

koa pomaikai said:
You don’t know the reason ICE tried to detain her and assuming just because ICE didn’t escalate means there is no reason is very anti-American.

I don’t know the reason either, and you putting words in my mouth that I want ICE to detain people for no reason is dishonest. Find me anywhere that I said I want people to be detained for no reason, I even said if ICE is detaining her based on race, that it’s wrong and they should be sued.

But she can’t run from them, that is lawlessness and if you run from a detention, you should be arrested.
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They obviously know where this happened and who she is. If this is such an open and shut case that was caught on camera then they should have no problems getting a warrant and going back to arrest her. They didn't have justification to do that though because if they did they wouldn't have stopped at the property line that day.

koa pomaikai said:
The fact the liberal media tries to make ICE look like the bad guys in this situation is disgusting.
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How did the liberal media try to make ICE look bad here? In the clip you posted they just show the video of the incident, provide quotes from the girl, and say they asked for comment from Homeland Security. There's literally zero opinion on the incident in that clip.

ICE clearly made themselves look like the bad guys here. They either had no justification for stopping the girl which is evident by them stopping at the property line. Or they were justified and they let a potential criminal get away.
 
shunyata said:
ICE has been acting illegally, ignoring due process, and ignoring the 4th and 6th amendments to the US constitution.

It is not presently a law enforcement agency, but a criminal agency.
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And you are ignoring due process when it comes to ICE? Where is the court that has adjudicated all these constitution violations that ICE is committing?
 
oldshadow said:
She was driving her illegal boyfriends car. She was driving.
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What was their reason for stopping her? They arent authorized to enforce traffic laws. If they were looking for him it's obvious she wasnt him.

ICE have been habitually roughing up citizens. I understand that bootlickers are fine with that, but it doesnt make it justified behavior.
 
Poon Goon said:
They obviously know where this happened and who she is. If this is such an open and shut case that was caught on camera then they should have no problems getting a warrant and going back to arrest her. They didn't have justification to do that though because if they did they wouldn't have stopped at the property line that day.


How did the liberal media try to make ICE look bad here? In the clip you posted they just show the video of the incident, provide quotes from the girl, and say they asked for comment from Homeland Security. There's literally zero opinion on the incident in that clip.

ICE clearly made themselves look like the bad guys here. They either had no justification for stopping the girl which is evident by them stopping at the property line. Or they were justified and they let a potential criminal get away.
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Who said it’s an open and shut case? They were trying to detain her, and that’s all we know. Detain her to ask her questions? Detain her for being a drug trafficking narco illegal immigrant?

Also, you don’t see how the media can frame it as “woman resisting detention from federal officers and runs home to hide” instead of “ICE chases woman to her home”
 
Sinister said:
What was their reason for stopping her? They arent authorized to enforce traffic laws. If they were looking for him it's obvious she wasnt him.

ICE have been habitually roughing up citizens. I understand that bootlickers are fine with that, but it doesnt make it justified behavior.
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ICE isn’t some single individual that you can stereotype across the board.

If an ICE officer violates the constitution, hold that officer accountable. ICE shouldn’t profile people based on race and you shouldn’t profile ICE either.

ICE shouldn’t rough up citizens, absolutely agree, but non citizens?

I understand our constitutional rights apply to all persons, but on a personal level I am heavily against them applying to non-citizens. There should be a two class system and it should be based on citizenship. But yes unfortunately, unless the constitution is amended it does apply to non-citizens (I do hope we can amend it to remove non citizens though)
 
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koa pomaikai said:
Who said it’s an open and shut case? They were trying to detain her, and that’s all we know. Detain her to ask her questions? Detain her for being a drug trafficking narco illegal immigrant?
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You have said it's an open and shut case throughout this thread. You say she was evading and that it's illegal. Well they have it on tape so they can get a warrant and go arrest her. If they don't pursue this then I might be inclined to believe they had no reason to stop her to begin with.

koa pomaikai said:
Also, you don’t see how the media can frame it as “woman resisting detention from federal officers and runs home to hide” instead of “ICE chases woman to her home”
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Your first title has way more opinion in it than the clip you posted. We don't hear what ICE was saying and they didn't provide comment so how do we know they were trying to detain her? Saying she ran home to hide is also an opinion. You don't know if she was hiding when she got back home.

"ICE chases woman to her home" appears to be exactly what happened in the clip and there is no opinion injected into it. It doesn't imply that she was right for running and it doesn't imply that ICE was wrong for chasing. It is literally just the facts of what happened.
 
Poon Goon said:
You have said it's an open and shut case throughout this thread. You say she was evading and that it's illegal. Well they have it on tape so they can get a warrant and go arrest her. If they don't pursue this then I might be inclined to believe they had no reason to stop her to begin with.


Your first title has way more opinion in it than the clip you posted. We don't hear what ICE was saying and they didn't provide comment so how do we know they were trying to detain her? Saying she ran home to hide is also an opinion. You don't know if she was hiding when she got back home.

"ICE chases woman to her home" appears to be exactly what happened in the clip and there is no opinion injected into it. It doesn't imply that she was right for running and it doesn't imply that ICE was wrong for chasing. It is literally just the facts of what happened.
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evading is illegal, that is open and shut. You are right I did say that. I was thinking about the reason for the detention not for the subsequent crime of evading.

okay a more factual framing would be “woman runs from ICE”

If you want to get very nitpicky, you don’t even know if ICE was chasing her, they could be just walking in the same direction or following her slowly instead of chasing. But she clearly ran from them.
 
koa pomaikai said:
ICE isn’t some single individual that you can stereotype across the board.

If an ICE officer violates the constitution, hold that officer accountable. ICE shouldn’t profile people based on race and you shouldn’t profile ICE either.

ICE shouldn’t rough up citizens, absolutely agree, but non citizens?

I understand our constitutional rights apply to all persons, but on a personal level I am heavily against them applying to non-citizens. There should be a two class system and it should be based on citizenship. But yes unfortunately, unless the constitution is amended it does apply to non-citizens (I do hope we can amend it to remove non citizens though)
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ICE is a Federal Agency. One whose hiring standards have been revealed to be atrocious. I don't play that Copsplaining where an agency gets to divorce themselves from poor practices by suggesting it was merely the actions of a single agent. Especially when the bullsh*t is already as normalized as it is with ICE.

No, ICE shouldn't be roughing up non-citizens as a normalized practice.

The last paragraph is just a feelings argument. That being said you wont get me to agree that people under our jurisdiction because they're here should be systemically deprived of rights. That's a terrible legal premise that opens the door to a myriad of tyrannical practices justified by the ability to systemically dehumanize people who are from somewhere else.
 
koa pomaikai said:
evading is illegal, that is open and shut. You are right I did say that. I was thinking about the reason for the detention not for the subsequent crime of evading.
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So when do you think they will get the warrant and arrest her? Surely that is coming if they had a lawful reason to stop her right?

koa pomaikai said:
If you want to get very nitpicky, you don’t even know if ICE was chasing her, they could be just walking in the same direction or following her slowly instead of chasing. But she clearly ran from them.
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Unless the guy in the mask and ICE outfit is just a jogger who happened to stop in front of her house then ICE was absolutely chasing her. It's the first thing you see in the video. He is running behind her and he stops at her property line once she goes past the fence.

Really seems like you just made a bunch of shit up in your head to somehow blame the media on this. Plenty of examples of media twisting stories out there, but the clip you posted isn't one at all.
 
koa pomaikai said:
Lame stream media at it again with the manipulative fake news.

I like how the media frames it as “masked agents chasing her” rather than potential criminal running from officers trying to detain her, which is the truth.

Whether or not this person is a citizen, she is fleeing from ICE when they are trying to detain her to verify citizenship.

That is probable cause of arrest, you cannot run from the officer. ICE had probable cause to detain the man who came out of that house for aiding and abetting someone who fled and given that she ran, it is probable to assume she is a illegal fleeing.

Arrest everyone in that house and figure out if they are US citizens. The lawlessness is just insane.

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God damn you’re a fucking loser haha
 
HAHAHAH people have had enough of Trump's racism. This is how it's gonna be from now on

FAFO

 
Poon Goon said:
Again, you're the only one I see claiming that this happened and you have no source to back it up. However, when you first said it you said she was questioned and released. If any of this happened then her being released makes sense because how else did she end up out of the car and freely walking away from them?
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She did this to herself by her actions.


 
koa pomaikai said:
Ice has authority to detain people for immigration purposes, are you saying people can just run when they see ICE?

ICE tried to detain her, and she ran, how is that not fleeing from an officer?
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What was the grounds for ICE to suspect she was in commission of a crime?
 
oldshadow said:
She did this to herself by her actions.


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Looked at the thumbnail and was 99% sure this has nothing to do with the OP because the cuffed lady is wearing different clothes. Watched for 8 seconds and confirmed it when they said this incident was in Key Largo. You didn't even have to watch the video in the OP to see it's a different story. The title says "chase woman to her Louisiana home".

Usually posters make it clear they didn't read past the headline. Your are either too dumb or lazy to even do that.

Edit: I went back and see that you are just talking about a completely different story that has nothing to do with the OP. Why this matters when discussing the actual OP I have no idea.
 
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