That was objectively boring as f***

[MMAJunkie]

Go watch a man’s navel since your feminine ass seems to want to control what other men watch instead of just discussing mma

This is MMA kid.

You guys would have hated GSP and Randy.


You kids make me laugh.

 

[Mind Mine]

This is MMA kid.

You guys would have hated GSP and Randy.


You kids make me laugh.

Listen boy I don’t know who your dumb ass think you are schooling on a fucking thing. 90% of the people that comment here have been around since the earlier day of the sport. I never liked GSP he never had a single fight to the level of laying on people that Khamzat or Islam have been allowed to do. The ref would have stood it up. Another thing you punk ass child is you hypocrites sure do love to ignore the fact any fighter the UFC feels isn’t getting fan hype has their fight reset when they fight like Randy as a grinder. Your child ass seems to ignore the fact lower ranked fighters doing this on a card certainly wouldn’t be allowed and would be reset right away. I think it’s because you’re a disrespectful fucking little kid. Your insight seems pretty stupid as if you are talking to someone less than your knowledge base on the sport when you don’t seem to know much

 

[Hellowhosthat]

I was losing my mind he wouldn't go for deep half, he appeared to be very well trained on positioning out of Islam's go-to submissions, but his escapes looked bad.

Islam is one of the best MMA adapted grapplers in the world and arguably best of his generation. JDM is competent everywhere but his grappling is best described as average. He needd to hurt Islam on the feet but couldn't get started.

I'm primarily a deep half player myself but in MMA it does open you up badly to GNP against someone with solid base.

 

[fjodor]

I fell asleep for the co-main, so I didn't get bored. After the second round of the main I was more on my phone then watching the wrestling match. I knew there won't be a finish.

 

[Kwic]

I don't know how the conclusion for some is that Jack sucks rather than Islam is insanely good.

What do you guys watch this sport for if not witnessing generational greatness proving their talent level against other proven great fighters?

It's Sherdog. It's common knowledge that you weren't any good once you lose and you should probably hang up the gloves.
Once Islam loses he was never any good either. Fighting only bums and cans and midgets or old grandpas. Maybe he should retire before that happens.

 

[whocares]

I don't want to watch a boring wrestling slog any more than the next guy but wrestling and grappling dominance isn't boring to me. Getting utterly manhandled until you're going to cry, I don't see the lack of appeal there. A guy getting twisted into agony is sufficient for my bloodlust, it doesn't have to be all KO's. Setting the bar any higher seems unfair. Islam just controlled a guy who was on an 18 fight win streak, its not like he was dealing with some bum.

 

[AL-Tappo McSnappo]

Aka, boring his opponents to death. Stomps and soccer kicks to discourage this nonsense.

How would soccer kicks work on him?

 

[Shamrockftw]

Jdm made that boring by just laying there

Also Islam destroys Ilia

 

[Chaotic Progressor]

Here’s something that could fix it: stop the scoring, the only way to win is by finish. Plain and simple. Add huge win bonuses.

Point/control “fighters” will go back to Olympic sports, karate, boxing, etc.

But how would that work. So if someone doesn't finish the other guy but punches their face in for 5 rounds, it's a draw?

 

[Chaotic Progressor]

Jdm made that boring by just laying there

Also Islam destroys Ilia

Nah. Illia has the ground game to compete - and good ground guys tend to bang with each other to not get into a grapple v grapple sitch.

And in that sitch @ on the feet, Illia knocks Islam tf out.

 

[Poirierfan]

Sitting in half guard for 4 minutes of a round doing nothing. You got Kebab in the corner commanding Islam to not make the fight exciting.

Don’t give me that “well JDM should have been able to get up” Islam trains to do just what he did. He trains to control in those positions while JDM is training to be offensive, combinations.

When Belal fought Leon, I wanted Leon to win more than anything. He’s English like myself, and the way Belal was carrying on pre fight it built the fight more. By the end of the fight Belal had earned my respect with his performance. He was in the pocket trading, mixing things up with his grappling to do damage. I had to take my hat off to him

Tonight I wanted JDM to win. What we saw take place was tragic. Just like Khamzat’s performance vs DDP. Eastern fighters are killing the sport, they are completely bereft of any semblance of showmanship

Just like the Khamzat fight I turned it off in the 4th rd. And just like Khamzat, I'm not looking forward to watch either guys future fights. Super boring.

 

[skylolow]

This was just another fight showing the need of yellow cards or some type of stalling rules to be implemented much more often in the UFC.

I'm actually kind of surprised the UFC through the years haven't tried to change that with the AC's.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Listen boy I don’t know who your dumb ass think you are schooling on a fucking thing. 90% of the people that comment here have been around since the earlier day of the sport. I never liked GSP he never had a single fight to the level of laying on people that Khamzat or Islam have been allowed to do. The ref would have stood it up. Another thing you punk ass child is you hypocrites sure do love to ignore the fact any fighter the UFC feels isn’t getting fan hype has their fight reset when they fight like Randy as a grinder. Your child ass seems to ignore the fact lower ranked fighters doing this on a card certainly wouldn’t be allowed and would be reset right away. I think it’s because you’re a disrespectful fucking little kid. Your insight seems pretty stupid as if you are talking to someone less than your knowledge base on the sport when you don’t seem to know much

I agree with this.

GSP has never had fights as boring as

-Woodley vs maia
-Woodley vs wonderboy 2
-Usman vs Masvidal 1
-Leon vs usmans 2
-Leon vs usman 3
-leon vs colby
-Mahachev vs JDM


And those are just the WW title fights. forget about khamzat vs DDP. GSP is basically robbie lawler compared to those champs. Atleast in GSP fights there prolong striking.

 

[rjmbrd]

Yea and Islam lost a fight, and Khabib didn't.

Khabib fought less frequently than Islam - that is not my opinion. Take his years under contract and divide it by fights. The dude never fought.

Khabib & his team were still learning when they got to the UFC. Khabib finished 5 of his last 7 fights, including all 3 of his highest profile fights.

His strength of schedule is terrible. Nate Diaz and Poirier both put away Conor, it is not a significant win, the guy has a losing record at lightweight. He then beat Poirier - his signature win, and JG.

JG gets torched repeatedly in top rank fights and Islam also put away Poirier. Islam's signature wins are a 10 fight win streak, defending world champion in Do Bronx and P4P great Volk. These are both HEAD AND SHOULDERS better wins than Khabib had in his career.

The fact remains that everyone on Khabib's team said that Khabib constantly got the better of Islam in training camp. And that remains the fact to this date (although Khabib is 90-100kg now, so it's not a fair comparison anymore).

Islam resorts to blanketing people until they get frustrated and make a mistake. Khabib was smashing people that weren't able to stop him. Khabib would stop JDM.

Fact - Islam has a higher stoppage percentage than Khabib.

It is not an opinion, it is linear reality. This is setting aside he fought more frequently and against a much more impressive strength of schedule.

 

[rjmbrd]

I'm primarily a deep half player myself but in MMA it does open you up badly to GNP against someone with solid base.

Very fair point - I'd add that Islam isn't very prone to GNP he is a submission first guy.

Its possible Islam was baiting him to reach for deep half so he could progress a submission from there.

 

[MMAJunkie]

Listen boy I don’t know who your dumb ass think you are schooling on a fucking thing. 90% of the people that comment here have been around since the earlier day of the sport. I never liked GSP he never had a single fight to the level of laying on people that Khamzat or Islam have been allowed to do. The ref would have stood it up. Another thing you punk ass child is you hypocrites sure do love to ignore the fact any fighter the UFC feels isn’t getting fan hype has their fight reset when they fight like Randy as a grinder. Your child ass seems to ignore the fact lower ranked fighters doing this on a card certainly wouldn’t be allowed and would be reset right away. I think it’s because you’re a disrespectful fucking little kid. Your insight seems pretty stupid as if you are talking to someone less than your knowledge base on the sport when you don’t seem to know much

Mixed Martial Arts.

Learn to wrestle

We have been spoiled with stand up fighters.

The ones that watched the sport from the beginning sat through Severn vs Kimo.
This fight was not boring.

Was it as exciting as a stand up war? No.
But that doesn't mean it was boring.

We used to have events where we didn't get to see the prelims and Dana claimed showing prelims the event will be too long

We had a great card and you kids cry because the 2 main events didnt go how you wanted.

It was amazing watching Islam and Valentina dominate.

 

[Mind Mine]

Mixed Martial Arts.

Learn to wrestle

We have been spoiled with stand up fighters.

The ones that watched the sport from the beginning sat through Severn vs Kimo.
This fight was not boring.

Was it as exciting as a stand up war? No.
But that doesn't mean it was boring.

We used to have events where we didn't get to see the prelims and Dana claimed showing prelims the event will be too long

We had a great card and you kids cry because the 2 main events didnt go how you wanted.

It was amazing watching Islam and Valentina dominate.

You’re either a hypocrite or a dummy because if every American did the exact same stunt the fans have decried THE ENTIRE TIME for one night the viewership would plummet. In addition to you being a hypocrite there the fact is you have done not a fucking thing to complain that the ref sepates fighters from grinding on the gage after a minute. You are also either hypocrite or a dummy in not understanding that at a live event you can’t see a damn thing happening on the ground only two people laying there unlessyou have a great screen and in which case staying home is a better option. MMA isn’t a real fight you dummy it is an entertainment valued sport that allows different fighting arts to be showcased FOR THE ENTERTAINMENT OF THE FANS. You act like top control the entire time boring the crowd is a martial art yet the second DDP got up in round 5 from being held KHAMZAT ALMOST LOST. You and the learn to wrestle crowd are the death of the sport not the progressive minds your dumb ass thinks you are. The UFC is selling out to rich countries of a certain distinction

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

it's an aspect of the sport and the onus is on the competitor to be able to negate the skills.

in that aspect it is fascinating.

from a fan standpoint, esp canner noob, probably not that fun.

ufc has done everything they can to avoid jon fitch types, yet there's somewhat a market/base for the dagestani wrestling types, and now they are dominating with no visible competition in sight.

a predicament.

 

[Mind Mine]

I agree with this.

GSP has never had fights as boring as

-Woodley vs maia
-Woodley vs wonderboy 2
-Usman vs Masvidal 1
-Leon vs usmans 2
-Leon vs usman 3
-leon vs colby
-Mahachev vs JDM


And those are just the WW title fights. forget about khamzat vs DDP. GSP is basically robbie lawler compared to those champs. Atleast in GSP fights there prolong striking.

Let’s unpack this a bit because you exposed a bit including yourself here. Woodley is such a magnificent name to address given this context. Do you mean the same Woodley that was extremely wrestling based throughout his early career and was booed so mightily for his wrestling performances he was all but forced to fall in love with his hands? Got you. Versus Maia who has forced other great fighters into a keep distance spar fest to avoid the ground and coast to an easy win formula because Maia had no standup but was hard to tee off on? That Maia oh ok buddy. I thought you had a point.

Bringing up Leon here actually brings up a poinnt as his style would be even more boring if he were allowed to fight the way he wanted to however AT ALL TIMES the ref is looming to break up him grinding against the octagon which is basically the standing version of what Khamzat and Islam did recently. I think Leon has quite a few boring fights but he also doesn’t have the popularity of a GSP to meter out the fact he just wasn’t exciting all the time. It’s weird that you think Leon could have fought Usman any other way because technically Usman was a superior fighter and Leon only had a prayer in winning by sticking to a game plan as he should have.

I don’t know why you would bring those fighters up to me. I wasn’t discussing them at all. Is it because I didn’t like Georges jab and blanket riddem? Well I fucking didn’t. I found him about on par with Leon in enjoying his fights however despised the fact his grinding was accepted as just his style while less popular fighters would have been booed and reset. Even the fights that weren’t boring as hell with him he looked beatable as in GSP Shields or he would go grind mode to wear his opponent down at his discretion and rarely if ever reset leading the fanbase loving or hating his style. You can’t be serious claiming GSP wasn’t a boring fighter in his own right. You must be joking or Canadian. The same thing I guess.

Perhaps you can explain to me why GSP who wasn’t some huge ground and pound monster and definitely no submission wiz spent so much time wrestling? Could it be to score points hmmm???
In all fairness to GSP I didn’t rate many he fought highly or at least not at the point in their career he fought them. I suppose GSP Condit in your head was the epitome of excitement lol. You can’t be serious? Nevermind, Canadian my bad

 

[Marko Polo]

Mixed Martial Arts.

Learn to wrestle

We have been spoiled with stand up fighters.

The ones that watched the sport from the beginning sat through Severn vs Kimo.
This fight was not boring.

Was it as exciting as a stand up war? No.
But that doesn't mean it was boring.

We used to have events where we didn't get to see the prelims and Dana claimed showing prelims the event will be too long

We had a great card and you kids cry because the 2 main events didnt go how you wanted.

It was amazing watching Islam and Valentina dominate.

“we”

“You kids”

Interesting. So youre a “hardcore” fan because you appreciated that slop, and anyone who disagrees with you is a child?

Honestly this is disgusting brother. It’s not suprising you enjoy watching a man being held down for 23 minutes by how you coordinate yourself in these trivial exchanges.

You’re no more of a fan than anyone else. You’re biased and you’re pretending to be elitist, when in fact you’re a bum with no knowledge, and you probably stink too. Nose picker