That was objectively boring as f***

[Nausicaa]

What a moron. MMA fights are all equally exciting? There wasn't much action (grappling or striking or even wrestling exchanges). Not every mma fight is like this you dumbass.

Keep on crying and being mad fking

If u cannot appreciate what khamzat did to ddp and how Islam dominated JDM, u a fking foo and MMA is not for u. Keep coping u sad ass

 

[Ladron4sherdog]

Keep on crying and being mad fking

If u cannot appreciate what khamzat did to ddp and how Islam dominated JDM, u a fking foo and MMA is not for u. Keep coping u sad ass

Lots of tears caused by Islam tonight hahaha

What a night!!!! Double champ and a 16 fight win streak!

 

[Marko Polo]

I don't know how the conclusion for some is that Jack sucks rather than Islam is insanely good.

What do you guys watch this sport for if not witnessing generational greatness proving their talent level against other proven great fighters?

He’s good at control like Khamzat. Fights aren’t won by control though, they’re won by inflicting damage. That’s what combat is. Current ruleset actually rewards non-fighting.

 

[Marko Polo]

Keep on crying and being mad fking

If u cannot appreciate what khamzat did to ddp and how Islam dominated JDM, u a fking foo and MMA is not for u. Keep coping u sad ass

You’re badly biased so you don’t care if a fight is boring. That’s the whole point of my post. Everytime it happens, dunces like you come out defending it. Because you hate the western audience, which is evident in your replies here too. Why even come to a place where you’re surrounded by people you hate and who hate you.

 

[Just Creed]

DDP fought Islam? When?

It's pretty clear what they meant/were referring to.

 

[Nausicaa]

You’re badly biased so you don’t care if a fight is boring. That’s the whole point of my post. Everytime it happens, dunces like you come out defending it. Because you hate the western audience, which is evident in your replies here too. Why even come to a place where you’re surrounded by people you hate and who hate you.

Yeah like the Western audience at this year's Ryder Cup? U and that other clown above was there also?

 

[DrRodentia]

He’s good at control like Khamzat. Fights aren’t won by control though, they’re won by inflicting damage. That’s what combat is. Current ruleset actually rewards non-fighting.

Both guys have more finishes than decisions in their UFC runs.

And both have W's on their records and belts around their waists for their most recent performances, despite your thoughts.

Do you think the guys that got controlled had a better argument for winning than the guys doing the controlling? Did JDM win tonight in your eyes? Did DDP win?

 

[JayTeeM]

It's crazy how you can have that much dominance in wrestling and still not get the finish. If you have the same degree of dominance in striking you are finishing the fight.

It seemed Islam took on Khamzat's approach in the DDP fight and took no risks. Usually he might throw the other guy a bone and do a bit more striking and make the fight a bit exciting almost as if he realises he's in the entertainment business. There was none of that tonight though. I guess it was safety first with the possibility of being double champ on the line.

 

[Just Creed]

MT and boxing is that way

We don't need cry babies like you in MMA who does not understand the sport. Take that big fat loser MMA guru with u too

Actually i'd rather hear their opinion over someone such as yourself.

This is a discussion board where performances are discussed.

Your commenting style fits better on a Facebook page where there are other posters who'll match your intelligence or not as high.

 

[shunyata]

Even if you like grappling there wasn't much transitions or exchanges or submission threats.

As a jiu jitsu coach and holder of unpopular opinions, I was highly entertained by both this fight and the Borz vs DDP fight.

JDM defended well against a lot of half guard sub attempts, kimura's, darces, and guillotine entries. Not well enough to be winning a round, but less helpless than DDP.

 

[what-wut]

Keep on crying and being mad fking

If u cannot appreciate what khamzat did to ddp and how Islam dominated JDM, u a fking foo and MMA is not for u. Keep coping u sad ass

You are a try hard mma nerd. "Omg I appreciate the intricacies of lay and pray non action fights. if you don't then you aren't a real fan like Meeee" what a dork haha.

 

[usernamee]

But Chimaev haters told me Khabib's crew would never focus on position and dominance that way

 

[gentel]

Like I said in the other thread, I don't blame Islam or Valentina, I blame their opponents for not delivering better opposition

Poirier pulled off solid TDD against Islam but JDM couldn't? smh

 

[Marko Polo]

I actually slept through nearly the entire fight. Woke up briefly during three of the rounds. Each time was EXACTLY the same thing: Islam on top doing not much. This is as boring as MMA gets. And I have a grappling background so I appreciate the ground work when it’s active and part of a total package. MMA is MIXED martial arts, and this definitely wasn’t it.

Exactly brother. It’s using grappling to avoid the fight, to avoid risk. Even in top position they don’t posture up to allow room for a scramble to inflict more damage. This is where Khabib was different. He would maul guys but they’d get opportunities to get up.

 

[Marko Polo]

Both guys have more finishes than decisions in their UFC runs.

And both have W's on their records and belts around their waists for their most recent performances, despite your thoughts.

Do you think the guys that got controlled had a better argument for winning than the guys doing the controlling? Did JDM win tonight in your eyes? Did DDP win?

You’re missing the point.

The fans definitely didn’t win and this is a spectator sport. The only reason Islam has an audience to do that garbage is because of guys who actually fought over the years.

Imagine if Forrest V Bonnar was a grapple heavy game of chess. Where would we be now? Dead in the water. No Anderson Silva, No Chuck Liddel, no Poatan. Nothing good. You gonna enjoy watching neckbeards grapple eachother all day bud? Probably would…

 

[DrRodentia]

You’re missing the point.

The fans definitely didn’t win and this is a spectator sport. The only reason Islam has an audience to do that garbage is because of guys who actually fought over the years.

Imagine if Forrest V Bonnar was a grapple heavy game of chess. Where would we be now? Dead in the water. No Anderson Silva, No Chuck Liddel, no Poatan. Nothing good. You gonna enjoy watching neckbeards grapple eachother all day bud? Probably would…

If you don't like the sport, you don't have to watch it.

If a fight that looked exactly like Forrest/Bonnar happened in a UFC PPV headliner in 2025, people wouldn't be impressed, they would be shitting on it for being a low level slop fest. Watch it again and pretend it's happening today. The sport has evolved since then, like it or not. If not, again, nobody is forcing you to watch or pay attention.

That was a great fight, for its time. It served its purpose. It was 20 years ago. Let go. It's no longer the berometer for greatness. Also Chuck Liddell largely happened before it.

 

[Marko Polo]

If you don't like the sport, you don't have to watch it.

If a fight that looked exactly like Forrest/Bonnar happened in a UFC PPV headliner in 2025, people wouldn't be impressed, they would be shitting on it for being a low level slop fest. Watch it again and pretend it's happening today. The sport has evolved since then, like it or not. If not, again, nobody is forcing you to watch or pay attention.

That was a great fight, for its time. It served its purpose. It was 20 years ago. Let go. It's no longer the berometer for greatness. Also Chuck Liddell largely happened before it.

“If you don’t like it then just don’t watch it” why come to a forum where the whole point is discussion and then use that as your argument. That’s what a child would say

None of your post makes sense

 

[JPOMMA]

Exactly brother. It’s using grappling to avoid the fight, to avoid risk. Even in top position they don’t posture up to allow room for a scramble to inflict more damage. This is where Khabib was different. He would maul guys but they’d get opportunities to get up.

“It’s using grappling to avoid the fight”. Wow, that’s a great way to put it. It’s exactly what that strategy is.

 

[ejazahmednit]

Not all wresting heavy fights are boring
This wasn't
It wasn't lay and pray. Makhachev was trying submissions, GnP but not giving up position. He wasn't stalling.
JDM on the other hand was hanging on for dear life doing everything not to get submitted. Similar to Volk in the first fight

 

[DrRodentia]

“If you don’t like it then just don’t watch it” why come to a forum where the whole point is discussion and then use that as your argument. That’s what a child would say

None of your post makes sense

Classic comedy. You are a guy spending time on a forum discussing a sport you clearly no longer enjoy. I'm telling you that you can let go and do something else and stop doing that.

You are the one actively participating in a thing you no longer like. I still like it. If I didn't, I wouldnt post on a karate forum anymore. I'd spend my spare time on things I still find joy in.

What doesn't make sense? The question you sarcastically posed might be something you should think a little deeper about. Why come to an MMA forum in 2025 if 2005 MMA is still your point of reference?