Should Islam lobby for Arman?

[moosaev]

Dana is obviously pissed off at Arman, but the way things are trending it’s looking like Islam’s next fight will likely be the winner of Gaethje/Hooker. Belal/shavkat probably won’t fight until summer, so the soonest Islam could move up would be end of year, so I doubt his next fight is at WW. Fighting Arman is much better for his legacy than beating up zero grappling Gaethje or Hooker who he already beat. Why shouldn’t he push the UFC to rebook the Arman fight for this summer? That’s what’s best for his career and legacy imo. Oliveira is also an option but Islam beat him so convincingly that I don’t think it’ll do much for his resume. I think Dana will rebook Arman if Islam demands it.

 

[VinceArch]

If Islam personally wants it I'm sure Dana would rebook the bout but Islam will face whoever they put in front of him barring Ilia Topuria IMO.

 

[humdizzle]

Arman lost to gamrot and nearly lost to Oliveira. I think they do Arman vs Oliveira as a main 5 rounder. Winner gets islam. But really Arman does nothing for him, he already beat him

Hooker is on a 2 fight streak by getting splits over Turner and Gamrot (wow so incredible...lol). On top of that Javier says he doesn't like him, since he accused islam of iv hydration and nothing came of it. They will most likely turn down this fight if hooker wins.

Gaethje is on a 0 fight streak. he lost to the 3rd best FW, so beating hooker isn't giving him a TS. But he is friends with team khabib and ali... so it might happen.

 

[F15]

Agreed - Arman and Charles are the only two who can solidify his legacy.

 

[Jackonfire]

I mean, Armen is still the most deserving. He didn't lose a fight, he pulled out. Shit happens. Personally I hope he still gets next.

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

Beat Arman and move up to 170 ?

 

[RockyLockridge]

yes he should, Armen waited for islam to go through his surgery this fight was supposed to happen last october im not trying to give armen a free ride he fucked this fight up yes, but it was initially delayed by islams injury.

I think the right thing for the divisions sake is to make this match up

 

[kingmob6]

Islam is a true champ. he doesn't give a fuck.

 

[mister piscadinha]

i dont think it would be enough, dana is petty as hell

arman may have to win three fights before getting another shot

 

[moosaev]

i dont think it would be enough, dana is petty as hell

arman may have to win three fights before getting another shot

I think if Islam demands it, they’ll make that fight.

 

[Edward Henry Berg]

Dana is obviously pissed off at Arman, but the way things are trending it’s looking like Islam’s next fight will likely be the winner of Gaethje/Hooker. Belal/shavkat probably won’t fight until summer, so the soonest Islam could move up would be end of year, so I doubt his next fight is at WW. Fighting Arman is much better for his legacy than beating up zero grappling Gaethje or Hooker who he already beat. Why shouldn’t he push the UFC to rebook the Arman fight for this summer? That’s what’s best for his career and legacy imo. Oliveira is also an option but Islam beat him so convincingly that I don’t think it’ll do much for his resume. I think Dana will rebook Arman if Islam demands it.

No, Arman shit the bed. He deserves to be ostracized.

Tsarukyan assessed his own worth, and cashed-out, unconvinced of his own abilities.

Never want to see or hear from that guy again, TBH.

 

[moosaev]

No, Arman shit the bed. He deserves to be ostracized.

Tsarukyan assessed his own worth, and cashed-out, unconvinced of his own abilities.

Never want to see or hear from that guy again, TBH.

But Arman’s goof up aside, beating Arman is still what’s best for Islam’s legacy. Arman getting punished doesn’t help Islam.

 

[Mammothman]

If Islam doesn't get a WW TS then yes, I don't see Oliveira skipping Arman either way.

 

[Edward Henry Berg]

But Arman’s goof up aside, beating Arman is still what’s best for Islam’s legacy. Arman getting punished doesn’t help Islam.

Islam already beat Arman.

Islam give Arman the chance for redemption — and Arman shit the bed.

Watching Arman's past performances, in particular against Gamrot (a loss) and Olivera (a near loss), there is nothing about Armen Tsarukyan's "game" that should make anyone (with a pulse) truly believe that Tsarukyan has a chance.

Armen Tsarukyan = A Midget ... who has done worse against the common opponents he shares with Islam Makhachev.

Arman had his chance to show otherwise, and blew it, I mean, catastrophically blew it.

It's a funking waste of everybody's time to go through a pre-fight buildup again. Nobody gives a shit, because Armen Tsarukyan clearly doesn't believe in himself, his own chances against Islam Makhachev.

In a Greek coliseum, Tsarukyan would be spit-on wherever he went after this debacle.

Dude is NOT Championship-material, in any way, shape, or form.

Flush this self-proven turd.

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[moosaev]

Islam already beat Arman.

Islam give Arman the chance for redemption — and Arman shit the bed.

Watching Arman's past performances, in particular against Gamrot (a loss) and Olivera (a near loss), there is nothing about Armen Tsarukyan's "game" that should make anyone (with a pulse) truly believe that Tsarukyan has a chance.

Armen Tsarukyan = A Midget ... who has done worse against the common opponents he shares with Islam Makhachev.

Arman had his chance to show otherwise, and blew it, I mean, catastrophically blew it.

It's a funking waste of everybody's time to go through a pre-fight buildup again. Nobody gives a shit, because Armen Tsarukyan clearly doesn't believe in himself, his own chances against Islam Makhachev.

In a Greek coliseum, Tsarukyan would be spit-on wherever he went after this debacle.

Dude is NOT Championship-material, in any way, shape, or form.

Flush this self-proven turd.

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Lmao, that’s a bit dramatic. Regardless of whether you think Arman has proven that he can be an equal match for Islam, the public perception is that he’s a real threat. I don’t think you can deny that beating this version of Arman will be a name on Islam’s resume that’s hard to criticize. It’s sort of like Khabib-Gaethje, in hindsight Gaethje had nothing for Khabib, but that wasn’t the perception leading up to that fight and they way Khabib beat Gaethje was a great look.

 

[BJJ4Tone]

Agreed - Arman and Charles are the only two who can solidify his legacy.

Huh?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but how does beating either of them a second time do anything to his legacy?
For the record, his legacy is already beyond solidified.
Second-longest win streak in UFC history and most title defenses in the most competitive division.

 

[moosaev]

Huh?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but how does beating either of them a second time do anything to his legacy?
For the record, his legacy is already beyond solidified.
Second-longest win streak in UFC history and most title defenses in the most competitive division.

Oliveira does nothing for him imo, but this version of Arman is very different from the Arman that Islam beat. Let’s be real.

 

[Rektkid]

I think Dana books Islam-Oliveira next but I would prefer the Arman fight.

 

[NoSmilez]

Arman should fight at least once. He has a back issue.

 

[moosaev]

Arman should fight at least once. He has a back issue.

He said he’ll be ready by summer, was just a back spasm, nothing long term, probably pinched a nerve.