Sherbros will there be any arguments left that Khamzat Chimaev is one of the best talents to ever step inside the octagon if he finishes DDP in 1st rd

[Rubios]

"If".

 

[rjmbrd]

you're ranking DDP as more accomplished even if he loses to Chimaev? lol that is insane.

We rate fighters in terms of "greatness" based on their body of work, not a single fight. DDP is undefeated in 9 UFC fights and has beaten 3 world champions. His strength of schedule is head and shoulders above Khamzat's, its not even close.

Dricus would absolutely MURDER everyone Khamzat has fought, and he wouldn't get embarrassed with a controversial split decision against Burns, or going to a majority decision with Usman coming off the couch across the world on zero notice.

Khamzat has the potential and makings of a all-time great, but he hasn't proved it yet. Dricus is already cemented as one of the great fighters of his generation and clearly one of the best UFC middleweights of all time.

 

[Steve Fox]

Dricus will test Chimaev mentally. We will see if he is a Wolf or a Husky.

 

[DamnSevern]

Dricus would absolutely MURDER everyone Khamzat has fought, and he wouldn't get embarrassed with a controversial split decision against Burns, or going to a majority decision with Usman coming off the couch across the world on zero notice.

what absolute twaddle. in their only mutual opponent, khamzat smashed him in less than half the time.. you know exactly what would happen to Izzy if he fought chimaev. besides that he has a split and unam decision over Strickland ...you're talking about ddp's greatness likes he's been champion for 5 years....if khamzat smashes ddp in the first round there is absolutely 0 argument to make that ddp has a better anything.

 

[L0ki]

Fuck no.

He's not even near top 50.

Beating Usman, Bobby and journeymen is one of the "best to ever do it"?

If he beats Strickland, Izzy, Poatan, DDP, Hill, Jiri, Roundtree, Jan, Ankalaev, he still wouldn't be the best to ever do it but he'll be in a pretty good spot.

Usman, Bobby and DDP are pretty good wins.

When referencing all time, a lot of fighters have pretty good wins.

Khamzat has been fighting an average of annualy.

Let's give him 12 or 13 years before GOAT talk comes into play.

And if he doesn't make it that long, then he's not it.

 

[rjmbrd]

what absolute twaddle. in their only mutual opponent, khamzat smashed him in less than half the time..

You mean AFTER he was already battered and smash in under 2 rounds by DDP? You talking about leftovers?

Second, all Khamzat did was backpack him. He had an existing injury to his teeth & gums, which got pressed in. Khamzat has never before crushed in someones gums, and he'll never do that again. You are talking about a 1 in a 1,000 occurrence. For reference, go one fight back and watch Khamzat do jack-shit backpacking Usman, a career welterweight coming off back to back losses, on zero notice.

you know exactly what would happen to Izzy if he fought chimaev. besides that he has a split and unam decision over Strickland ...you're talking about ddp's greatness likes he's been champion for 5 years....if khamzat smashes ddp in the first round there is absolutely 0 argument to make that ddp has a better anything.

Bro... Gilbert @%@ Burns knocked Khamzat down. Dropped him on his ass, and he eeked by with a controversial split decision. What are you even talking about lmao.

 

[Hog-train]

His ability to make very good fighters look like regional level cans is pretty special.

He basically handled Whittaker with the same ease as he did Rhys McKee.

He has basically only faced resistance in just 2 out of his 8 UFC-fights, and even in those two he was very close to finishing in round 1.

I think he's up there with Aspinall, Islam, and Ilia in talent-level, because his grappling poses such an extreme finishing threat.

He didn't make an undersized Usman look like a can at all. That fight was competitive.

 

[DamnSevern]

You mean AFTER he was already battered and smash in under 2 rounds by DDP? You talking about leftovers?

lol fuckoff with this nonsense.

wanna make a bet? loser leaves the forum

If that’s too serious we can do a flair admitting whichever has a greater legacy

 

[rjmbrd]

lol fuckoff with this nonsense.

wanna make a bet? loser leaves the forum

If that’s too serious we can do a flair admitting whichever has a greater legacy

I think its a pick-em fight, Khamzat has an excellent chance of winning.

That is unrelated to his body of work as of yet because substantially less impressive strength of schedule and results compared to DDP. He's not even in the same league as Islam or Ilia, we're just talking about middleweight.

 

[DamnSevern]

I think its a pick-em fight, Khamzat has an excellent chance of winning.

That is unrelated to his body of work as of yet because substantially less impressive strength of schedule and results compared to DDP. He's not even in the same league as Islam or Ilia, we're just talking about middleweight.

Alright fair enough sir. I agree with the ilia/islam comparisons being 4 or 5 fights too soon but still disagree about ddp par. Super excited for this fight. Let see

 

[Preston broadus]

Khamzat has an exciting style. A w is a w but the way he gets it is what sets him apart.

Islam finished olivera but it took 2 rounds
Ilia did it in 1. Ilia surpasses islam on the p4p ranking.

Lots of people beat Kevin Holland but khamzat did it like a rabid dog tearing upa rabbit.

Lots of people beat the Chinese fella but khamzat picked him up like a child

A few people beat Robert but khamzat literally cracked his skull.

Khamzat also went the distance with Gilbert and usman took him to a decision.

My prediction is if khamzat doesnt finish ddp inside 2 minutes he is royally fucked and will lose by tko. Ddp will beat him to a bloody pulp or the ref steps in because he turtles and gives up.

 

[octagonation]

Khamzat has an exciting style. A w is a w but the way he gets it is what sets him apart.

Islam finished olivera but it took 2 rounds
Ilia did it in 1. Ilia surpasses islam on the p4p ranking.

Lots of people beat Kevin Holland but khamzat did it like a rabid dog tearing upa rabbit.

Lots of people beat the Chinese fella but khamzat picked him up like a child

A few people beat Robert but khamzat literally cracked his skull.

This...

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

If he finishes DDP in the 1st round it was because DDP finally got exposed and/or DDP never really fought anyone good. So we still wouldn't know if Khamzat is any good and it's still very likely he's a can.

I'll bet someone already has a draft of the "DDP was never that good" thread for if he loses. Dude still doesn't get enough respect even considering his resume, he'll get shit on if he loses.

 

[188912345]

He didn't make an undersized Usman look like a can at all. That fight was competitive.

It became competitive after he injured his hand, round 1 Usman got dominated.

 

[BullyKutta]

I'm not convinced of Khamzat's greatness. He looked all too human against Burns.

If he beats DDP, then I'll give him his due.

Chimaev should take this fight very seriously. DDP is no fucking joke.

 

[usernamee]

It became competitive after he injured his hand, round 1 Usman got dominated.

There's a hilarious moment in rd1 where Khamzat is dragging him away from the cage and Usman is desperately trying to crawl back to the fence and grab ahold of it. It looked like he was being taken away by a monster in a horror movie lol.

 

[Vigfree]

Chimaev´s capability is in his technical level and fight IQ where others will take hours to paint one painting he can do it in minutes and in order to understand and appreicate you have to watch him on slowmo to understand what happened.

All his fights are like a crime scene people don´t understand what happened because it went so fast then you have to rewind and watch it on slowmo to analyse what happened

fight IQ?
I don't see anything so amazing about his fight IQ.
He's a physical beast who overwhelms his opponents early and drowns them with grappling to find finishes.
Nothing high IQ about that at all.

 

[usernamee]

Dricus will test Chimaev mentally. We will see if he is a Wolf or a Husky.

We already know Khamzat is a dog from his Burns fight where he got dropped in the second round and was exhausted and still pushed hard in the third round.

 

[GluttonforPunishment]

We've seen him hurt and wobbled(Burns not Usman). And he fought back. That says a lot. But let's see him do it against someone not exhausted and his same size. He overcomes something like that, he's legit. But the literal diving at feet for early stoppage's, let's see what happens when that doesn't work.

 

[Steve Fox]

We already know Khamzat is a dog from his Burns fight where he got dropped in the second round and was exhausted and still pushed hard in the third round.

Burns was already at an age where he probably needed dick pills to hold an erection. Dricus is at his peak.