International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V12
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@SandisLL got it. 4-6month for mig-29 pilots.
maybe 4-5 for Su-27s. They might have been able to go faster if they were F-15s since awhile back, UAF preferred F-15s over F-16s
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Wasn't even an anti-Putin remark he genuinely said that Russia could save money by not making the charade that is Russian elections.
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It would be pretty difficult to find someone who has been more wrong about this conflict than Douglas Macgregor.
IMHO partially. Votes counters are approved by FSB but Putin needs to have legitimization lineage via elections ....
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He's a coward and a traitor to the nation. He is doing nothing less than flirting with treason.
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If they wanted legitimization they could had made them somewhat realistic instead of saying he won with 80% of the vote.
Russia does have some institution called Roskomnadzor. This institution is controlling info posted in public space etc.
Roskomnadzor in reality is under FSB.
According to some 17 officially allowed mass media sources support for Putin is 75-85%.... ofc these are mass media with permit from Putin. Surveys they too might collect and post for public only after Patrushev and Putin will check these....
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Wagner making ‘Africa even more free’, says Prigozhin in first post-rebellion video
Person who appears to be mercenary leader seen in desert area, saying his group is recruiting
The Russian mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin has posted his first video address since leading a short-lived rebellion in Russia, appearing in a clip – possibly shot in Africa – on Telegram channels affiliated with the Wagner group.
A person who appears to be the 62-year-old mercenary leader is seen in the video standing in a desert area in camouflage and with a rifle in his hands. In the distance, there are more armed men and a pickup truck.
The warlord suggests in the clip, posted on Monday, that he is on the African continent, adding that “the temperature is plus 50 [degrees Celsius]”. He says Wagner is conducting reconnaissance and search operations and “making Russia even greater on all continents, and Africa even more free”.
The Guardian was not able to geolocate or verify the date of the video. All Eyes on Wagner, an open-source research group, reported on Saturday that a plane linked to Prighozin had landed in Bamako, the capital of Mali.
Russian social media channels close to the mercenary leader said Prigozhin was recruiting fighters to work in Africa and also inviting investors from Russia to put money into CAR through Russian House, a cultural centre linked to Prigozhin operating in Bamako.
In the video, Prigozhin says Wagner is recruiting people and the group “will fulfil the tasks that were set”.
Prigozhin moved into the global spotlight in June with a dramatic, short-lived mutiny that posed the most serious threat to Vladimir Putin in the president’s 23-year rule. He was last heard from at the end of July, when a social media account linked to him posted a recording in which he said that Wagner would pause recruiting new fighters and would focus on activities in Africa and in Russia’s neighbour, Belarus.
Over the past few years, Wagner has deployed several thousand troops in at least five African countries, propping up local autocratic regimes, often at a grave cost to the local population. Wagner has been accused of involvement in massacres in Mali as well as elsewhere in the Sahel and central Africa.
The group is believed to have the largest presence in Central African Republic (CAR), where it intervened in 2018 on the side of the government to quell a civil war that has raged since 2012. Wagner also deployed about 1,000 personnel to Mali in December 2021 after a military coup.
Shortly after Prigozhin’s revolt, Moscow reassured its allies in Africa that thousands of Wagner group fighters deployed to the continent would not be withdrawn.
The future of Wagner has, however, been unclear since Prigozhin led his short mutiny against the Russian defence establishment.
Under a deal brokered by the Belarusian president, Alexander Lukashenko, Prigozhin agreed to end his rebellion in exchange for amnesty for him and his fighters and permission to relocate to Belarus. Before moving to Belarus, Wagner handed over its weapons to the Russian military, part of efforts by Russian authorities to defuse the threat posed by the mercenaries.
Putin called Prigozhin a traitor as the revolt unfolded and vowed harsh punishment, but the criminal case against the mercenary chief on rebellion charges was later dropped. Unusually, the Kremlin said Putin had a three-hour meeting with Prigozhin and Wagner group commanders days after the rebellion. Putin said he sought and failed during the meeting to have Prigozhin replaced as the leader of Wagner’s fighters in Ukraine.
A video in July apparently showed Prigozhin in Belarus but he was photographed after that on the sidelines of a Russia-Africa summit in the Russian city of St Petersburg.
The Wagner founder long benefited from Putin’s powerful patronage, including while he built a private army that fought for Russian interests abroad and participated in some of the deadliest battles of the war in Ukraine.
With Reuters and Associated Press
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ting-post-russia-rebellion-video-africa-putin
Person who appears to be mercenary leader seen in desert area, saying his group is recruiting
The Russian mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin has posted his first video address since leading a short-lived rebellion in Russia, appearing in a clip – possibly shot in Africa – on Telegram channels affiliated with the Wagner group.
A person who appears to be the 62-year-old mercenary leader is seen in the video standing in a desert area in camouflage and with a rifle in his hands. In the distance, there are more armed men and a pickup truck.
The warlord suggests in the clip, posted on Monday, that he is on the African continent, adding that “the temperature is plus 50 [degrees Celsius]”. He says Wagner is conducting reconnaissance and search operations and “making Russia even greater on all continents, and Africa even more free”.
The Guardian was not able to geolocate or verify the date of the video. All Eyes on Wagner, an open-source research group, reported on Saturday that a plane linked to Prighozin had landed in Bamako, the capital of Mali.
Russian social media channels close to the mercenary leader said Prigozhin was recruiting fighters to work in Africa and also inviting investors from Russia to put money into CAR through Russian House, a cultural centre linked to Prigozhin operating in Bamako.
In the video, Prigozhin says Wagner is recruiting people and the group “will fulfil the tasks that were set”.
Prigozhin moved into the global spotlight in June with a dramatic, short-lived mutiny that posed the most serious threat to Vladimir Putin in the president’s 23-year rule. He was last heard from at the end of July, when a social media account linked to him posted a recording in which he said that Wagner would pause recruiting new fighters and would focus on activities in Africa and in Russia’s neighbour, Belarus.
Over the past few years, Wagner has deployed several thousand troops in at least five African countries, propping up local autocratic regimes, often at a grave cost to the local population. Wagner has been accused of involvement in massacres in Mali as well as elsewhere in the Sahel and central Africa.
The group is believed to have the largest presence in Central African Republic (CAR), where it intervened in 2018 on the side of the government to quell a civil war that has raged since 2012. Wagner also deployed about 1,000 personnel to Mali in December 2021 after a military coup.
Shortly after Prigozhin’s revolt, Moscow reassured its allies in Africa that thousands of Wagner group fighters deployed to the continent would not be withdrawn.
The future of Wagner has, however, been unclear since Prigozhin led his short mutiny against the Russian defence establishment.
Under a deal brokered by the Belarusian president, Alexander Lukashenko, Prigozhin agreed to end his rebellion in exchange for amnesty for him and his fighters and permission to relocate to Belarus. Before moving to Belarus, Wagner handed over its weapons to the Russian military, part of efforts by Russian authorities to defuse the threat posed by the mercenaries.
Putin called Prigozhin a traitor as the revolt unfolded and vowed harsh punishment, but the criminal case against the mercenary chief on rebellion charges was later dropped. Unusually, the Kremlin said Putin had a three-hour meeting with Prigozhin and Wagner group commanders days after the rebellion. Putin said he sought and failed during the meeting to have Prigozhin replaced as the leader of Wagner’s fighters in Ukraine.
A video in July apparently showed Prigozhin in Belarus but he was photographed after that on the sidelines of a Russia-Africa summit in the Russian city of St Petersburg.
The Wagner founder long benefited from Putin’s powerful patronage, including while he built a private army that fought for Russian interests abroad and participated in some of the deadliest battles of the war in Ukraine.
With Reuters and Associated Press
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ting-post-russia-rebellion-video-africa-putin
Wagnerites ofc better will opt for Africa than some Ukr.
Lesser resistance and african oligarchs are very rich ppl. We usually are thinking like " all these are poor. " While africa does have ppl ruling diamonds, gold, other gemstones and rare earth metals mines. These ppl are very rich oligarchs.
Lesser resistance and african oligarchs are very rich ppl. We usually are thinking like " all these are poor. " While africa does have ppl ruling diamonds, gold, other gemstones and rare earth metals mines. These ppl are very rich oligarchs.
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Wagner making ‘Africa even more free’, says Prigozhin in first post-rebellion video
Person who appears to be mercenary leader seen in desert area, saying his group is recruiting
The Russian mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin has posted his first video address since leading a short-lived rebellion in Russia, appearing in a clip – possibly shot in Africa – on Telegram channels affiliated with the Wagner group.
A person who appears to be the 62-year-old mercenary leader is seen in the video standing in a desert area in camouflage and with a rifle in his hands. In the distance, there are more armed men and a pickup truck.
The warlord suggests in the clip, posted on Monday, that he is on the African continent, adding that “the temperature is plus 50 [degrees Celsius]”. He says Wagner is conducting reconnaissance and search operations and “making Russia even greater on all continents, and Africa even more free”.
The Guardian was not able to geolocate or verify the date of the video. All Eyes on Wagner, an open-source research group, reported on Saturday that a plane linked to Prighozin had landed in Bamako, the capital of Mali.
Russian social media channels close to the mercenary leader said Prigozhin was recruiting fighters to work in Africa and also inviting investors from Russia to put money into CAR through Russian House, a cultural centre linked to Prigozhin operating in Bamako.
In the video, Prigozhin says Wagner is recruiting people and the group “will fulfil the tasks that were set”.
Prigozhin moved into the global spotlight in June with a dramatic, short-lived mutiny that posed the most serious threat to Vladimir Putin in the president’s 23-year rule. He was last heard from at the end of July, when a social media account linked to him posted a recording in which he said that Wagner would pause recruiting new fighters and would focus on activities in Africa and in Russia’s neighbour, Belarus.
Over the past few years, Wagner has deployed several thousand troops in at least five African countries, propping up local autocratic regimes, often at a grave cost to the local population. Wagner has been accused of involvement in massacres in Mali as well as elsewhere in the Sahel and central Africa.
The group is believed to have the largest presence in Central African Republic (CAR), where it intervened in 2018 on the side of the government to quell a civil war that has raged since 2012. Wagner also deployed about 1,000 personnel to Mali in December 2021 after a military coup.
Shortly after Prigozhin’s revolt, Moscow reassured its allies in Africa that thousands of Wagner group fighters deployed to the continent would not be withdrawn.
The future of Wagner has, however, been unclear since Prigozhin led his short mutiny against the Russian defence establishment.
Under a deal brokered by the Belarusian president, Alexander Lukashenko, Prigozhin agreed to end his rebellion in exchange for amnesty for him and his fighters and permission to relocate to Belarus. Before moving to Belarus, Wagner handed over its weapons to the Russian military, part of efforts by Russian authorities to defuse the threat posed by the mercenaries.
Putin called Prigozhin a traitor as the revolt unfolded and vowed harsh punishment, but the criminal case against the mercenary chief on rebellion charges was later dropped. Unusually, the Kremlin said Putin had a three-hour meeting with Prigozhin and Wagner group commanders days after the rebellion. Putin said he sought and failed during the meeting to have Prigozhin replaced as the leader of Wagner’s fighters in Ukraine.
A video in July apparently showed Prigozhin in Belarus but he was photographed after that on the sidelines of a Russia-Africa summit in the Russian city of St Petersburg.
The Wagner founder long benefited from Putin’s powerful patronage, including while he built a private army that fought for Russian interests abroad and participated in some of the deadliest battles of the war in Ukraine.
With Reuters and Associated Press
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ting-post-russia-rebellion-video-africa-putin
They should bomb the fuck of out that terrorist group.
Where is Murica when you need them.
Joe Biden had relocated U.S embassy personnel from Kiev to Lvov in 12.02.2022.
He also acted as weak POTUS when had remowed U.S fleet from Black Sea despite Black Sea had 3 full NATO members in Turkey, Bulgaria and Romania.
Biden doesn't have any rights to be POTUS again if God here does exists.
Biden should retire today.
From all POTUS candidates I might support only Pence.
While Biden is 1000x better than Trump despite Biden is awful.
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Carefulllly watching. We have a big ass Drone/Airbase there with 1200 trooper. The french have one not to far away with 1500. The french are kicking around the idea to invade, we reallllly dont want to.
im not sure if the airbase is big enough to land Fixed wing, but it might be?
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"Germany's foreign minister says Ukrainian drone strikes against Russian targets are within international law. Russia has been hit by several drone strikes in recent months, including in the capital Moscow. Among other things, buildings housing government offices have been hit. "Russia attacked Ukraine, therefore Ukraine has a legal right to defend its country," Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock said at a news conference when asked about the drone strikes. She pointed out that Russia is increasingly attacking civilian infrastructure in Ukraine. "Ukraine is defending itself within the borders of international law," Baerbock said."
https://www.nrk.no/nyheter/tyskland-1.14668923
https://www.nrk.no/nyheter/tyskland-1.14668923
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French have more of a reactionary force in place from what i saw on FFLs reddit (some FFLs airborne units are on standby).Theres a lack of political will for any strong actions apperantly.
FFL has had unofficial runs into wagner but nothing was done thanks to macron turning other cheek
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