International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V12

[Hog-train]

Dude, how many times have I said I do not give two-shits about either side? Has that not sunk in yet?
"United in fighting at a very high cost." Exactly my point.
What will happen when that cost has become too high, and the Ukrainian Army runs out of soldiers to fight? Who will stop Russia then?

Well it's up to Ukraine to decide when the cost becomes too high. They're the ones fighting. Probably not expecting an honest answer - but why the hell do you keep bringing this same point up as if it's some kind of gotcha?

And don't tell me it's about the expense of military aid. It's a tiny fraction of our annual military budget AND a lot of it is 20-30 year old equipment that we were going to retire anyway AND costing us money to maintain.

 

[San Marino]

Do you ever get sick of lying and spinning? You literally said a year ago UKR was out of troops and it was over maybe make a thread about the civil war or something....UKR is pushing them back with minimal loses while Russia still following their playbook. UKR has been adapting to situation while Russia sends their people in to die.

I am not lying or spinning. This is some BS you and others have created and seem to believe in. I can say the same thing about you and your posts. Did you not grasp the parallel relation to the American Civil war? You can't win a war without an Army. The Confederacy lost the war for lack of soldiers. The same thing is now happening to the Ukrainian Army.

"UKR is pushing them back with minimal loses." WTF? Where are you reading this? I'm the one lying and spinning? Please!
Ukraine is taking massive losses in this conflict. It has been even worse now that they have gone on the offensive and attacked fortified Russian defensive positions. Those dead Ukrainian soldiers are not being replaced. Do you now begin to see the same fate as to what happen with the Confederate Army? The more Ukraine advances East, the more soldiers they lose. Soldiers that won't be replaced. An ever-shrinking Army. At some point Ukraine will no longer have an effective Army to beat Russia.

 

[San Marino]

This isn't even true, most of that "20%" was in Russian control since 2014 directly or indirectly through the Russian funded and armed separatist movements, LPR and DPR.

Look at the map. Who cares about 2014. Red means under Russian control:

Getting that much land back from Russia at this stage of the game is impossible.
The Ukrainian Army would need to be 7 times bigger than what it currently is. Not going to happen.

 

[The XL]

Well it's up to Ukraine to decide when the cost becomes too high. They're the ones fighting. Probably not expecting an honest answer - but why the hell do you keep bringing this same point up as if it's some kind of gotcha?

And don't tell me it's about the expense of military aid. It's a tiny fraction of our annual military budget AND a lot of it is 20-30 year old equipment that we were going to retire anyway AND costing us money to maintain.

The ones fighting have absolutely no choice in whether the fighting stops or not. It's the people not fighting that make that choice. So called democracy is a great scheme. It gives the people the illusion of control and power while having none, a great way to manipulate the masses.

 

[Strychnine]

I don't understand how someone so overweight has so much exercise equipment sitting right behind him.

He's actually a retired U.S. infantryman who served 20 years who works out regularly.

 

[Strychnine]

Ok, we're over 200+ posts and I'm going to lock this thread and start a new version. I'll leave a redirect here.

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[Bojka]

He's actually a retired U.S. infantryman who served 20 years who works out regularly.

"Never give up the will to live."

Meanwhile, he's drinking beer, smoking a cigar, and is overweight.

Virtually everyone knows Colonel McGregor just spouts bs. We don't need some pretentious fat fact checker posing as a fitness enthusiast to fact check him for 30 minutes. The only people who take Colonel McGregor seriously wouldn't watch 30 seconds of his video, let alone 30 minutes.