Opinion RFK Jr. says HHS will determine the cause of autism by September

[HenryFlower]

people itt claiming it’s easy to get diagnosed w/ ASD clearly haven’t been tested & diagnosed w/ ASD. are there doctors out there who are a little too flexible on giving out a diagnosis due to their own laziness or personal lack of knowledge in that field? sure. every profession will have professionals who cut corners at the expense of others—the medical field in the US is no exception—but they are such a small drop in the bucket. if anything, there are likely just as many doctors/psychiatrists who are ASD skeptics, or ASD ignorant, denying patients a legitimate diagnosis.

as others have mentioned, the uptick in ASD diagnoses comes down to improved awareness, improved studies & resources, & improved testing applications. the first has also led to ASD becoming less stigmatized in a lot of ways, but obviously the stigma surrounding ASD is still very much a work in progress.

 

[Crazy Source]

If everything fails then a good beating will do the job

Strap before dawn, autism gone.

 

[Osculater]

Strap before dawn, autism gone.

Beat the spectrum away

 

[aitkenmike]

you have strong motivations for these fake autism diagnosis. Parents get relieved of being responsible for their childrends behaviour and success. Thats why they push for it and most doctors at some point cave in.

then you have the psychotherapy and medical industry / profession. Year by year they widen the diagnostic screening for autism & add getting far above what these pathologies actually are. By that everyone involved makes A LOT more money

Then you have an ideological push from woke /left to basically diagnose everyone with an illness if they themselves want to have that pathology. As its all about being victim of something they relentless push for diagnosing everyone.

As an adult you get an easy out for why you do not function the way you want to.

The victims are the children that often have a serious reason for behaving like that be that lack of or violent parenting to trauma in some other sort. But they just get medicated or therapy for a disease they dont have. Most cases I know parents would need the therapy and often punishment how they neglect their children.

Believe me a lot of parents nowadays are a horror show.

Edit: Misread psychotherapy as pharmaceutical for sone reason. My post focused on medical field not being incentivized to diagnose as there is effectively no medicine. But the point still stands. There is very little 'treatment' for autism. I don't know what massive benefits beyond increased diagnostics appointments you think the medical field get from increased autism diagnosis.

 

[HenryFlower]

What medication do kids of autism get prescribed? There is no treatment for autism. Maybe it's different in the US, but unless the behaviours are extreme and some sort of anti-psychotic is warranted for extreme violence when having meltdowns/episodes and they are endangering themselves or others.

the posters who think an ASD diagnosis is just an excuse to peddle meds are telling on themselves.

 

[milliniar]

Edit: Misread psychotherapy as pharmaceutical for sone reason. My post focused on medical field not being incentivized to diagnose as there is effectively no medicine. But the point still stands. There is very little 'treatment' for autism. I don't know what massive benefits beyond increased diagnostics appointments you think the medical field get from increased autism diagnosis.

Some could get anti anxiety but not common. My nephew has no meds.

 

[Osculater]

What medication do kids of autism get prescribed? There is no treatment for autism. Maybe it's different in the US, but unless the behaviours are extreme and some sort of anti-psychotic is warranted for extreme violence when having meltdowns/episodes and they are endangering themselves or others.

Probably Xanax

 

[aitkenmike]

Some could get anti anxiety but not common. My nephew has no meds.

Yes, that's one possibly for mine if he struggles more. He can have panic attacks for an hour plus when activated. Reducing demands is helping at the moment to bring down the levels of nervous system activation, and we (and paediatrician) are trying to avoid medicating. But as you say, it's pretty rare. And not a treatment for autism itself.

 

[Cartiac]

you have strong motivations for these fake autism diagnosis. Parents get relieved of being responsible for their childrends behaviour and success. Thats why they push for it and most doctors at some point cave in.

then you have the psychotherapy and medical industry / profession. Year by year they widen the diagnostic screening for autism & add getting far above what these pathologies actually are. By that everyone involved makes A LOT more money

Then you have an ideological push from woke /left to basically diagnose everyone with an illness if they themselves want to have that pathology. As its all about being victim of something they relentless push for diagnosing everyone.

As an adult you get an easy out for why you do not function the way you want to.

The victims are the children that often have a serious reason for behaving like that be that lack of or violent parenting to trauma in some other sort. But they just get medicated or therapy for a disease they dont have. Most cases I know parents would need the therapy and often punishment how they neglect their children.

Believe me a lot of parents nowadays are a horror show.

That's the damn truth right there. There is not a single quantitative measurement for autism. Kids being awkward and lacking communication skills has much more to do with having a computer screen in their face their entire life than any medical condition. But of course Drs will prescribe the fuck out of drugs, also without a single measurement to even consider, but they want that trip to Hawaii with the Pharma Girl. It is disgusting.

They literally give amphetamine to kids and after a few days say look the kid is barely moving now, we cured his ADHD! If you have ever been to a festival, by that third day you aren't moving like you were on day one and that is not because all the drugs you took cured your ADHD, you are zapped the f out just like those kids, but you made that decision, those kids never had the choice.

 

[cincymma79]

The whole autism "diagnosis vs. epidemic" debate is put into focus with one simple fact:

Severe, non-verbal, autism has only increased slightly by about 10%, whereas overall autism rates have increased more than 500%.

If new environmental toxins were contributing to autism rates, we would expect the severe autism rate to increase as well--they haven't really.

Oh so autism isn’t real and you want them eradicated! I knew it! I know someone who’s autistic and they know karate. What do you think of that? Huh? Huh? Explain yourself.

 

[HenryFlower]

That's the damn truth right there. There is not a single quantitative measurement for autism. Kids being awkward and lacking communication skills has much more to do with having a computer screen in their face their entire life than any medical condition. But of course Drs will prescribe the fuck out of drugs, also without a single measurement to even consider, but they want that trip to Hawaii with the Pharma Girl. It is disgusting.

They literally give amphetamine to kids and after a few days say look the kid is barely moving now, we cured his ADHD! If you have ever been to a festival, by that third day you aren't moving like you were on day one and that is not because all the drugs you took cured your ADHD, you are zapped the f out just like those kids, but you made that decision, those kids never had the choice.

 

[deviake]

That's the damn truth right there. There is not a single quantitative measurement for autism. Kids being awkward and lacking communication skills has much more to do with having a computer screen in their face their entire life than any medical condition. But of course Drs will prescribe the fuck out of drugs, also without a single measurement to even consider, but they want that trip to Hawaii with the Pharma Girl. It is disgusting.

They literally give amphetamine to kids and after a few days say look the kid is barely moving now, we cured his ADHD! If you have ever been to a festival, by that third day you aren't moving like you were on day one and that is not because all the drugs you took cured your ADHD, you are zapped the f out just like those kids, but you made that decision, those kids never had the choice.

Embarrassing

 

[jefferz]

That's the damn truth right there. There is not a single quantitative measurement for autism. Kids being awkward and lacking communication skills has much more to do with having a computer screen in their face their entire life than any medical condition. But of course Drs will prescribe the fuck out of drugs, also without a single measurement to even consider, but they want that trip to Hawaii with the Pharma Girl. It is disgusting.

They literally give amphetamine to kids and after a few days say look the kid is barely moving now, we cured his ADHD! If you have ever been to a festival, by that third day you aren't moving like you were on day one and that is not because all the drugs you took cured your ADHD, you are zapped the f out just like those kids, but you made that decision, those kids never had the choice.

Holy shit, you’re retarded.

 

[aitkenmike]

That's the damn truth right there. There is not a single quantitative measurement for autism. Kids being awkward and lacking communication skills has much more to do with having a computer screen in their face their entire life than any medical condition. But of course Drs will prescribe the fuck out of drugs, also without a single measurement to even consider, but they want that trip to Hawaii with the Pharma Girl. It is disgusting.

They literally give amphetamine to kids and after a few days say look the kid is barely moving now, we cured his ADHD! If you have ever been to a festival, by that third day you aren't moving like you were on day one and that is not because all the drugs you took cured your ADHD, you are zapped the f out just like those kids, but you made that decision, those kids never had the choice.

Autism is not adhd. You do not just 'get' an autism diagnosis, and after the long process (ours was over a 5 year period) there are no medications. I don't understand why this dogshit take keeps being repeated.

 

[Cartiac]

Autism is not adhd. You do not just 'get' an autism diagnosis, and after the long process (ours was over a 5 year period) there are no medications. I don't understand why this dogshit take keeps being repeated.

So what did they measure over those 5 years to finally make that diagnosis other than the profit they made? Could you have not told them that day one? And what does that diagnosis now do for you? The privilege of more doctor visits? Putting an autist through a 5 year period of being questioned, screened, interviewed, watched, etc by doctor after doctor sounds like the definition of hell for an autist.

 

[aitkenmike]

So what did they measure over those 5 years to finally make that diagnosis other than the profit they made? Could you have not told them that day one? And what does that diagnosis now do for you? The privilege of more doctor visits? Putting an autist through a 5 year period of being questioned, screened, interviewed, watched, etc by doctor after doctor sounds like the definition of hell for an autist.

Referred to specialist from kindergarten (pre school here) found inconclusive, given some catch up physical therapy to be more school ready as had some physical as well as emotional delays. Discharged. Re-referred by school/private counsellor age 7, 2 years on waiting list, appointment with specialist just before 10, one follow up appointment to discuss diagnosis, one year wait for specialist pediatrician to check for any non-autism reasons for some of his issues to make sure they aren't just assumed away as 'part' of the autism diagonosis, currently waiting to hear back on blood chemistry/genetic screening results, and the result of another ADHD screen that will all assume will be negative but is pro-forma here.

It's not an easy process. It's not something they just throw at anyone. It's not made lightly, it's made from a number of reports from us (parents) his teachers, his private counsellor, and the Hospital Consultant Psychologist.
We don't get medication, we don't get lots of pointless appointments that they can charge for, it's not some grand conspiracy.

 

[chardog]

Spoiler alert:

It starts with a "v" and ends with "accines"

That could attribute to the issue, but i think it’s something much simpler…. Nature

People delaying childbirth way too long, and older folks haven’t more complications, including autism. There are other issues that come with late child birth, fertility, pregnancy complications, miscarriages, birth defects….. and considering all that, occam’s razor

 

[chardog]

Autism is not adhd. You do not just 'get' an autism diagnosis, and after the long process (ours was over a 5 year period) there are no medications. I don't understand why this dogshit take keeps being repeated.

If yours takes five years, something ain’t right either

Must be very light on the spectrum, I’ve been to the special ed class and while this might not contain all autistic kids, the students are clearly in need of special care, it’s not even close, there can be hundreds of kids around and they would stick out like a sore thumb.

I would say if you’re autistic enough to be in one of those classes, then it’s a true diagnosis. If you were diagnosed and NOT in one of those classes, then you’re functional enough that your diagnosis practically doesn’t matter.

 

[aitkenmike]

Thanks for sharing your ignorance. He's not in special education, he's in mainstream classes, doing well in some areas, poor in others, and very much the diagnosis matters.

 

[Cartiac]

Referred to specialist from kindergarten (pre school here) found inconclusive, given some catch up physical therapy to be more school ready as had some physical as well as emotional delays. Discharged. Re-referred by school/private counsellor age 7, 2 years on waiting list, appointment with specialist just before 10, one follow up appointment to discuss diagnosis, one year wait for specialist pediatrician to check for any non-autism reasons for some of his issues to make sure they aren't just assumed away as 'part' of the autism diagonosis, currently waiting to hear back on blood chemistry/genetic screening results, and the result of another ADHD screen that will all assume will be negative but is pro-forma here.

It's not an easy process. It's not something they just throw at anyone. It's not made lightly, it's made from a number of reports from us (parents) his teachers, his private counsellor, and the Hospital Consultant Psychologist.
We don't get medication, we don't get lots of pointless appointments that they can charge for, it's not some grand conspiracy.

Thanks, and I hope my questions don't come across as offensive, but what are you looking to get out of all of this? Has any of this told you anything about your son/daughter that you didn't already know day one? I understand wanting to rule out possible medical issues like maybe tumors of whatever that may be effecting development, but that seems to be covered and the kid has been diagnosed very thoroughly as having autism so what else are you looking for?

I know this is pretty hard not to take offensively but I am genuinely interested because I could never ask my family member this stuff without making it a Thanksgiving for the ages, but when do you stop looking for something wrong with the kid?