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Ranking the Female GOATS

BFoe said:
  1. Nunes
  2. Schevchenko
  3. Ronda
  4. Joanna
  5. Cyborg
  6. Rose
  7. Miesha
  8. Holly
  9. Marloes
  10. Andrade
Something like that.
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No Weili?

& Ronda being in the top 5 is comical. She was a one trick pony that once exposed looked like a clown.
 
Kyojiro Kagenuma said:
No, you come on now. Zhang Weili is a two time dominant champ with a win over Andrade herself (Starched her I might add) and what, 4, 5 Title defenses? Andrade is a one time champ with no title defenses. Andrade doesn't hold a candle to Weili skill wise or accomplishment wise.
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But Weili didn’t deserve at least one, if not both, of those title shots—not to mention she didn’t deserve the rematch against Rose. Obviously credit to Weili for inning a couple of those title shots, and she has decent title defenses. But it’s pretty obvious that the UFC wanted her in the title picture to hell them expand more into the Chinese market, and they’ve hot-spotted Weili there repeatedly.

Kyojiro Kagenuma said:
You're wacky bro. There's no universe Andrade has a better record than Zhang just cause she fights all the time stacking up wins against people who do nothing for her legacy while also losing half the time. Calvillo? Come the fuck on, dude. Everything Zhang does something incredibly impressive, you ignore it and act like it's not big deal. It's pretty ridiculous.
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How are you going to criticize Andrade for stacking up wins against those fighters when like 16 of Weili’s 26 wins are against literal nobodies? If someone wants to slide Weili into the #10 spot or something in account of her title defenses, I get it, but don’t agree. Any higher than that just isn’t justified to me. Top 5 all time is absurd.
 
BFoe said:
But Weili didn’t deserve at least one, if not both, of those title shots—not to mention she didn’t deserve the rematch against Rose. Obviously credit to Weili for inning a couple of those title shots, and she has decent title defenses. But it’s pretty obvious that the UFC wanted her in the title picture to hell them expand more into the Chinese market, and they’ve hot-spotted Weili there repeatedly.


How are you going to criticize Andrade for stacking up wins against those fighters when like 16 of Weili’s 26 wins are against literal nobodies? If someone wants to slide Weili into the #10 spot or something in account of her title defenses, I get it, but don’t agree. Any higher than that just isn’t justified to me. Top 5 all time is absurd.
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What's absurd is you putting Andrade above Weili.

And you could argue Rose didn't deserve either of her title shots either. She hasn't won more than three fights in a row her whole career? And what about Ronda? Her record has aged mostly horrendously.

Weili has been at the height of the sport for 6 straight years. Andrade was there for a split second before getting smacked right back down to gatekeeper status.

You'd be right about all that China market shit if Weili didn't have the skills to back it up, but she does. She's been absolutely dominating the competition for the last four years since recapturing the title.

Your logic is baffling. It's like saying Andrei Arlovski is higher than Cain Velasquez just cause Andrei fought a million times, and I fucking love Andrei, but come on, it's stupid. You're just counting sheer numbers rather than the magnitude of each win.
 
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KO Shotz said:
No Weili?
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<JonesLaugh>

KO Shotz said:
& Ronda being in the top 5 is comical. She was a one trick pony that once exposed looked like a clown.
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Ronda has 7 title defenses. That’s one less than Schev, and same number as Nunes (counting WBW and WFW both). It’s significantly more than what Weili has done in 2 reigns.
She has a great resume, and only 2 losses, which are Holm and Nunes. Hardly embarrassing.
 
BFoe said:
<JonesLaugh>


Ronda has 7 title defenses. That’s one less than Schev, and same number as Nunes (counting WBW and WFW both). It’s significantly more than what Weili has done in 2 reigns.
She has a great resume, and only 2 losses, which are Holm and Nunes. Hardly embarrassing.
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She beat cans & when faced up against legitimate competition that matched her strength & skill set, failed miserably.
 
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BFoe said:
<JonesLaugh>


Ronda has 7 title defenses. That’s one less than Schev, and same number as Nunes (counting WBW and WFW both). It’s significantly more than what Weili has done in 2 reigns.
She has a great resume, and only 2 losses, which are Holm and Nunes. Hardly embarrassing.
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She only has 2 losses cause she quit as soon as she started losing. She got figured out, refused to adapt, and quit. The thing is I'm not usually one to shit talk Ronda, but you are asking for it, dude.
 
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KO Shotz said:
She beat cans & when up against legitimate competition that matched her strength & skill set, failed miserably.
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Absolute nonsense. So Holly is legitimate competition, but somehow Miesha who finished Holly and became champion in nearly every org she fought in, is a can?

Nunes is legit but Zingano, who has a TKO win over Nunes, is a can?
Alexis Davis has a TKO win over Nunes too, but somehow she’s a can as well?

Carmouche went on to be Bellator champ with multiple defenses and won the PFL tournament, and Julia Budd went on to be Bellator champ with multiple defenses, but both are cans?


I think you’re letting hate for Ronda blind you as to how good she was, and how good her resume is.

Kyojiro Kagenuma said:
She only has 2 losses cause she quit as soon as she started losing. She got figured out, refused to adapt, and quit.
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And sill has a resume that’s better than most. Ronda always said she wouldn’t be fighting MMA long, due to injuries sustained from years of judo. Her resume in the short time she was here destroys Weili’s. Ronda has far more quality wins, and far more title defenses. Maybe Ronda should make a comeback and go fight all the no-names that Weili fought overseas, so he can have 26 wins or whatever. ;)
 
BFoe said:
Absolute nonsense. So Holly is legitimate competition, but somehow Miesha who finished Holly and became champion in nearly every org she fought in, is a can?

Nunes is legit but Zingano, who has a TKO win over Nunes, is a can?
Alexis Davis has a TKO win over Nunes too, but somehow she’s a can as well?

Carmouche went on to be Bellator champ with multiple defenses and won the PFL tournament, and Julia Budd went on to be Bellator champ with multiple defenses, but both are cans?


I think you’re letting hate for Ronda blind you as to how good she was, and how good her resume is.


And sill has a resume that’s better than most. Ronda always said she wouldn’t be fighting MMA long, due to injuries sustained from years of judo. Her resume in the short time she was here destroys Weili’s. Ronda has far more quality wins, and far more title defenses. Maybe Ronda should make a comeback and go fight all the no-names that Weili fought overseas, so he can have 26 wins or whatever. ;)
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Ronda would probably lose to all those girls at this point. The sport has passed her by. I'm not arguing that weili is above Ronda, and I'm pretty sure I put her above weili in my list.
 
BFoe said:
Absolute nonsense. So Holly is legitimate competition, but somehow Miesha who finished Holly and became champion in nearly every org she fought in, is a can?

Nunes is legit but Zingano, who has a TKO win over Nunes, is a can?
Alexis Davis has a TKO win over Nunes too, but somehow she’s a can as well?

Carmouche went on to be Bellator champ with multiple defenses and won the PFL tournament, and Julia Budd went on to be Bellator champ with multiple defenses, but both are cans?


I think you’re letting hate for Ronda blind you as to how good she was, and how good her resume is.
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Bruh, Carmouche is mid tier at best, that's why she isn't in the UFC anymore. Couldn't hang with the big dogs.


Zingano & Davis are nothing special. Yes they got wins over an underdeveloped Nunes back in like 2011 & 2013 I think. Now if they beat Nunes at her peak then you'd have an argument, but you don't because Nunes wasn't the lioness back when she fought those two. You think they could hang with Nunes during her reign?


I'll give you the Tate wins tho, that is the only highlight of Rouseys career that means anything. But even at that, it wouldn't put Rousey over Weili nor does it make her top 5 since Tate was incredibly overrated.
 
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1. Weight Cut Carano
2. Pre-Travis Weight Cut Ronda
3. Cosplay Rin Nakai

As far as fighting goes, Nunes, Megumi Fuji, Cyborg/Val.
 
Nunes, Shevchenko, Ronda, Joanna are my top 4 for sure. Bottem 6 is kinda hard, probably something like Rose, Tate, Zhang, Cyborg, Marloes, Andrade . Could be forgetting someone
 
How do most have Nunes over Shevchenko when Shevchenko arguably beat Nunes despite the size disparity at BW?
 
BFoe said:
  1. Nunes
  2. Schevchenko
  3. Ronda
  4. Joanna
  5. Cyborg
  6. Rose
  7. Miesha
  8. Holly
  9. Marloes
  10. Andrade
Something like that.
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While most of her competition has frankly put being abysmal for a championship level fighter due to the quality of her division, Cyborg sheer longevity should put her above Ronda, considering she came around the same era and also didn't face the most stellar opposition.
Ronda won her first title fight in 2012 and had her last win in 2015.
Cyborg won her first title fight in 2009 and had her last win in 2024 (against a very credible opponent, ten fights win streak including a win over Kayla Harrison).
 
How on earth are you ranking Rose below 2 girls she beat 2 times each, once by KO and DEC? lol come on man.

Also, Cyborg shouldn't be on your list. Roiding yourself to the gills, cheating on scales against cans, and only ever fighting fattened up BWs in the UFC and only one actual FW (Spencer lol) is not good.
 
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