Migrant routes from Greece

[JDragon]

So Macedonia has closed its borders for migrants from the South, meaning that about 100k people are now stuck in Greece - a situation neither they nor Greece want.

There are other ways, though (according to this German-language article on SPIEGEL Online: http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/fluechtlinge-die-neuen-routen-der-schleuser-a-1079341.html):

1) They can pay 2500 Euros and will be smuggled to Southern Italy in a container, on ferries and ships from Piraeus.

2) They can cross the border to Albania and take a boat to Italy, something that thousands of Albanians did in the early 1990s.

3) They can take the land route via Albania, Montenegro, Bosnia-Herzegowina, Croatia and Slovenia. It is a pretty dangerous path due to land mines, but traffickers will likely re-open this pathway.

4) The Greece - Albania - Kosovo - Serbia route - this is one with high political explosiveness and a lot of conflict potential. The Kosovo is not officially recognized by Serbia - but if they wanted to stop an influx of migrants and refugees, they would have to build a fence, which would basically imply recognition of Kosovo.

5) The route via Bulgaria and then further on to Serbia or Romania. This route was pretty unpopular so far due to the brutal Bulgarian police - but border protection is rather weak. This may change, though, as Serbia has called upon Bulgaria to tighten its Western border controls and the military is now assisting police in securing the border.

6) The Black Sea route. Instead of bringing the refugees through the Mediterrenean, where NATO is going to be active, traffickers could bring people from Northern Turkey to Romania or Bulgaria.

The options are many, and the potential for conflict is endless.

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

Yes it's a clusterfuck.

Have you seen what these shits did in Calais ?

Attacked the police as well as cars when an illegal shelter was closed down this WE.

Yet some people still choose to protest against the police in this very case.

Self destruction is really the greatest threat to the West IMO.

 

[Halge]

They could go back?

 

[threelions]

Yes it's a clusterfuck.

Have you seen what these shits did in Calais ?

Attacked the police as well as cars when an illegal shelter was closed down this WE.

Yet some people still choose to protest against the police in this very case.

Self destruction is really the greatest threat to the West IMO.

Great civilizations aren't murdered they commit suicide.

 

[IDL]

Great civilizations aren't murdered they commit suicide.

Or are suicided

 

[Rex Kwon Do]

If I was a brown Muslim, I'd rather take my chances back in Syria or Afghanistan than go through Serbia.

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

Bulgaria should build a two layered steel fence, walls, ditches, electric fence whatever against its border with Turkey and even Greece. And Albania should do the same heck so should Greece.

These migrants can all go to Sweden and Germany. And then Poland should build a wall along the German border. Lol

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

If I was a brown Muslim, I'd rather take my chances back in Syria or Afghanistan than go through Serbia.

Yeah. If I was them I'd take the Sea route and try Italy. Sure you might drown but last I checked the Italian Navy was saving refugees from drowning. I'd do that then go west and north and try for Germany, France or Sweden. Eastern Europe and the Balkan states wouldn't be a nice habitat or an inviting place for a brown Skimmed Muslim especially when so many of those countries are poor themselves.

 

[7437]

Bulgaria should build a two layered steel fence, walls, ditches, electric fence whatever against its border with Turkey and even Greece. And Albania should do the same heck so should Greece.

These migrants can all go to Sweden and Germany. And then Poland should build a wall along the German border. Lol

Greece and Turkey should build a wall to keep out all the dirty bulgarians.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/bulgaria/gdp-per-capita
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/greece/gdp-per-capita
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/turkey/gdp-per-capita

Same with Albanians, they are a terrible country

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/albania/gdp-per-capita

 

[Supereem]

Greece and Turkey should build a wall to keep out all the dirty bulgarians.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/bulgaria/gdp-per-capita
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/greece/gdp-per-capita
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/turkey/gdp-per-capita

Same with Albanians, they are a terrible country

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/albania/gdp-per-capita

Some of my best friends in Greece are Albanians and Bulgarians. Usually I can tell if someone isnt Greek by the fact they smile. They usually take jobs Greeks are too proud to take. My aunties are cared for my Bulgars since no Greeks are willing to become carers.

 

[JDragon]

Some of my best friends in Greece are Albanians and Bulgarians. Usually I can tell if someone isnt Greek by the fact they smile. They usually take jobs Greeks are too proud to take. My aunties are cared for my Bulgars since no Greeks are willing to become carers.

Is that seriously the case still? I would assume the current situation is so desperate people will take any job.

 

[Svithjod]

Bulgaria should build a two layered steel fence, walls, ditches, electric fence whatever against its border with Turkey and even Greece. And Albania should do the same heck so should Greece.

These migrants can all go to Sweden and Germany. And then Poland should build a wall along the German border. Lol

Yea, as if our current situation isn't bad enough. There will soon be a civil war here in Swe, trust me. Our politicians will make it happen sooner or later.

We can't take anymore of these parasites, so I really hope they won't find a way to get here.

 

[Supereem]

Is that seriously the case still? I would assume the current situation is so desperate people will take any job.

Yeah partially because they are stubborn and partially because many families still have enough money to supply themselves. It is probably different in more poorer and isolated areas.

 

[KnightTemplar]

It's a Europe-wide cluster fuck. In Calais, there are around 5,000 "asylum seekers". Curiously, in spite of France being one of the richest and most civilised nations on earth, they are refusing to claim asylum there. They all want to travel to the UK. Nothing to do with higher benefits being available in Britain, of course. Perish the thought...

Meanwhile, a report released by the British Government today states that many workers will have to double their pension contributions now, or face working until they are 80.

And the governments of Europe wonder why Right Wing parties are gaining ground...

 

[Abezal]

Is that seriously the case still? I would assume the current situation is so desperate people will take any job.

You don't know many Greeks do you. They make Italians look like Japanese workers.

 

[JDragon]

You don't know many Greeks do you. They make Italians look like Japanese workers.

Well my city has about 8 percent Greeks, so I dunno about that - those here are usually hard working folks. Not sure about 'Greeks in Greece', of course.

 

[TehGwarch]

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

Yea, as if our current situation isn't bad enough. There will soon be a civil war here in Swe, trust me. Our politicians will make it happen sooner or later.

We can't take anymore of these parasites, so I really hope they won't find a way to get here.

Well its sad but they probably won't admit they are wrong until sh!t hits the fan. If you think about a civil war is probably what the radicals want and it would prove to people the failed experiment is to not be repeated.

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

The typical radical multiculturalists :
- pushes the limits with outrageous policies
- gets outraged when the right emerges

 

[optimistas]

You don't know many Greeks do you. They make Italians look like Japanese workers.

maybe YOU dont know many greeks. dont believe what you are told. the big majority of the people here suffers from the austerity,especially in the big cities. "funny" thing is that the people who help and volunteer for the refugees crisis are the ones that are hit more from the economic one.